Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2014.02.09 12:50:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:
You are right, I also did some math considering the fact that none hit every shot but I didnt wanted to write too much.
So the fact is: none thing you should use it between a battle, you should only use it after a battle to let ur mates be ready for the Next one. So in the battle it is stupid to use it instead of your weapon.
In My opinion you should be awarded with more efficiency for this effort you r doing to play with your mates and doing team play.
You're absolutely right, the heavy/logi combo is incredibly easy to counter and is why no body uses it.
Never in a well running quad will anybody call out when this combo is being used against them.
Never have I heard "Oh **** that heavies got a logi repping him from behind that corner!" I'm not sure if that phrase has ever been uttered in Dust before.
And nobody ever... EVER has tried to target the logi first, because why bother? He's not a threat to anyone, and he's not making that heavy any harder to kill.
This strategy also isn't seen in PC, and certainly not by a certain well known heavy from a certain corp that rhymes with "Ream Prayers".
And when I've been chatting to other heavies you don't hear us chatting about who's the best logi to have, learning the names of logibros/sis out there, because, let's face it, they're a waste of space, I certainly don't care.
I'm sorry but this thread is made of fail and no amount of my sarcasm is enough of a punishment.
Good day to you sir.
I SAID GOOD DAY! |
Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:03:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:
Tell that to the Logi/Heavy Combo that went 43/1, I was the only person to kill that heavy.
You know I'm being sarcastic right? I said it right there in the post.
jhon hartigan wrote: It happens sometime but it also happen that someone Goes 43 1 alone. Public are useless, you have to look at competitive matches to balance. In PC if You r repairing a heavy you ll se him die as fast as you were doing nothing. You r dedicating yourself only to that heavy and you dont have any impact.
What do you think about my suggestion?
No, I have run HMG in PC. And the Logi pair up still works, at best the extra competitiveness means when combat first starts the Logi uses the window of time while the heavy loses his 600 shields to incoming fire, throw grenades/whatever then gets the rep tool on once the heavy starts taking armour damage, but that window of time is very small, in your example 1 second.
It also depends on the range of the engagement, outside of a certain range the HMG is weak and that extra weapon is a necessity, in CQC, such as barrelling your way down a corridor or guarding an entrance you will want the HMG to do the talking against the steady stream of reds.
But I'm sorry, if in a PC match I'm running 1,088 DPS with the boundless and 1,448 DPS for burst duration if I'm using the Six Kin. If you're within that 3-15m range, HMG with a hidden logi repping them is very good.
There's a reason you stay the hell away from the front end of an HMG, and why heavy on heavy battles are bad ass.
The other scenario to disengage reps is when split fire is required, when guarding two entrances and reds come in both at the same time, that's why its great that a logi can look around while repping and make that decision themselves.
But hey, if you wanna buff rep tools I'm all for it, a Gal heavy getting repped by a Minnie logi come 1.8 is totally UP and CCP should buff it, it's not like that what I'm going to be doing or anything  .
Also bear in mind an AR can only fire at 550DPS or whatever for about 3.2 seconds if memory serves, to drop a Proto Gal heavy will take 3.4 seconds, so you're gonna need to reload, that rep tool can make the difference of wether the heavy only just makes it, or makes it with a lot of armour left and will be ready to go again a few seconds later.
Now you can ask the question, "but if we both shoot the red then the red goes down faster!" yes, but possibly the red will kill you before the heavy kills him. It's why logi-ing a heavy out in the open is stupid, you become the target, heavy moves to cover and shoots while you move to the side to safety.
I've had long discussions with my logis about movement patterns, comms proceedures etc.
But saying triage hives is just as good as a rep tool is insane, at best they're useful if setting up a camp for the HMG, but 1 flux and they're gone. |