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![Chunky Munkey Chunky Munkey](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_amarr_128.jpg)
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3074
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:08:00 -
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I don't like these new assault bonuses CCP.
Encouraging players to put the same weapons on the same suits undermines the diversity and customisation of the game.
I don't want to be able to know straight away that a Minmatar Assault has to be carrying a Combat Rifle just because they'd be giving up a bonus otherwise.
Give them bonuses that compliment the suits! Something that makes them better at offence, without hindering their choice of weapons. Shield bonuses for the Caldari, armour bonuses for the Amarr/Gallente.
The leaked speculative bonuses with ROF increases & module buffs were far more appealing.
No.
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![Cat Merc Cat Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
6228
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:10:00 -
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No, it's better to bonus the weapons.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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![Takahiro Kashuken Takahiro Kashuken](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2432
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:15:00 -
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Its like EVE
I could put lasers on my Drake but it would be useless because its skills are for missiles
Intelligence is OP
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![Arkena Wyrnspire Arkena Wyrnspire](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
9128
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:18:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:No, it's better to bonus the weapons. I prefer having weapon bonuses to encourage suit/weapon synergy. This doesn't make it mandatory, but it does encourage it.
Though I'd like to see those HP bonuses stay...
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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![Chunky Munkey Chunky Munkey](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_amarr_128.jpg)
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3074
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:19:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:No, it's better to bonus the weapons.
If you want a weapons specialist, you can always get a commando.
No.
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![OZAROW OZAROW](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
OZAROW
0uter.Heaven
1353
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:23:00 -
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Where's these supposed new bonuses?
SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
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![Auris Lionesse Auris Lionesse](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
176
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:25:00 -
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I don't think any of the guys in china making this game have ever played eve or understand how it's supposed to work. Does gal still get 5% more armor per level? |
![Squagga Squagga](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Squagga
The State Protectorate
174
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:25:00 -
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Weapon bonuses should be for weapons. Suit module bonuses should be suits. I for one am all about Caldari getting a shield module bonus. 80% sounds reasonable to me
Reloading, the silent killer.
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![Cat Merc Cat Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
6228
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:26:00 -
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Squagga wrote:Weapon bonuses should be for weapons. Suit module bonuses should be suits. I for one am all about Caldari getting a shield module bonus. 80% sounds reasonable to me
![What?](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_question.png)
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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![BL4CKST4R BL4CKST4R](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1852
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:30:00 -
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Squagga wrote:Weapon bonuses should be for weapons. Suit module bonuses should be suits. I for one am all about Caldari getting a shield module bonus. 80% sounds reasonable to me
Drugs are good eh?
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1567
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:30:00 -
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I agree, bonus should be on the suits not on weapons or equipments, this is breaking the sandbox.
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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Sgt Buttscratch
1474
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:31:00 -
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**** be quiet!!!!
Anything will be better than my current shield bonus...
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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![RuckingFetard RuckingFetard](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
706
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:33:00 -
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Most people are forgetting that these bonuses will affect more than 1 weapon
Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
9133
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:33:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:I don't think any of the guys in china making this game have ever played eve or understand how it's supposed to work. Does gal still get 5% more armor per level?
No, all HP bonuses have been axed.
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1567
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:35:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Most people are forgetting that these bonuses will affect more than 1 weapon And logi?
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:35:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Its like EVE
I could put lasers on my Drake but it would be useless because its skills are for missiles
Drakes have launcher hardpoints. Eve is even more restrictive than dust is. You couldnt even really use lasers cuz they are turrets and drakes use launchers.
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:36:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:I don't think any of the guys in china making this game have ever played eve or understand how it's supposed to work. Does gal still get 5% more armor per level?
gallente assault will be bonused to hybrid-blasters. (plasma rifle, plasma cannon,shotgun) and repair. (ha lol. hey logistics i herd you used to have repair bonus's.)
gallente like armour but prefer active armour tankeing. i.e stong armour reps. compared to the amarrian bricks. |
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
174
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:39:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Squagga wrote:Weapon bonuses should be for weapons. Suit module bonuses should be suits. I for one am all about Caldari getting a shield module bonus. 80% sounds reasonable to me Drugs are good eh?
I know you little rejects don't know anything about negotiating. Don't you worry your pretty little heads. I'll handle this. Just sit back and talk **** while I do all the heavy lifting. As usual
EDIT: Yes the drugs are good
Reloading, the silent killer.
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
706
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:47:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Squagga wrote:Weapon bonuses should be for weapons. Suit module bonuses should be suits. I for one am all about Caldari getting a shield module bonus. 80% sounds reasonable to me ![What?](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_question.png) Reminds of the time I proposed a 50% buff to armor modules![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) This was around 1.2 btw
Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
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![Squagga Squagga](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Squagga
The State Protectorate
176
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:52:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Squagga wrote:Weapon bonuses should be for weapons. Suit module bonuses should be suits. I for one am all about Caldari getting a shield module bonus. 80% sounds reasonable to me ![What?](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_question.png) Reminds of the time I proposed a 50% buff to armor modules ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) This was around 1.2 btw
Lulz. Mostly I was just bringing up a high number that I could later go lower on
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
2417
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:54:00 -
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I agree with the OP.....we shouldn't be limited to the weapons we use because of the suits that we've specced into. It takes away from the many different possibilities and customization of your dropsuit fit. 0
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Beld Errmon
0uter.Heaven
1298
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:57:00 -
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having bonuses doesn't mean you can't put another weapon on, generic is what we have now, with 2 or 3 suits being the best suits to run because of max HP + dmg mods, don't worry with assaults because the next flavour of the patch will be heavies anyway :D |
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
805
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:58:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Squagga wrote:Weapon bonuses should be for weapons. Suit module bonuses should be suits. I for one am all about Caldari getting a shield module bonus. 80% sounds reasonable to me ![What?](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_question.png) Reminds of the time I proposed a 50% buff to armor modules ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) This was around 1.2 btw LOL! I remember that.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3077
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:59:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:having bonuses doesn't mean you can't put another weapon on, generic is what we have now, with 2 or 3 suits being the best suits to run because of max HP + dmg mods, don't worry with assaults because the next flavour of the patch will be heavies anyway :D
Of course. It just means you have to give up a major buff just to equip the weapon you want.
No.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
168
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Posted - 2014.02.08 15:02:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:I don't think any of the guys in china making this game have ever played eve or understand how it's supposed to work. Does gal still get 5% more armor per level? No, all HP bonuses have been axed. The HP and ROF bonuses were just what we needed but all the logi crybabies got us nerfed before the patch fucken came out.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
176
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Posted - 2014.02.08 15:03:00 -
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Well I don't know about a major buff. We should be versatile. Also we should be getting bonuses for using the weapons of our race. I'm a Cal purist and I like that. I like how the Amarr get a bonus for having their suits and using their SCRs. I should get a damage bonus for using Rosie. Also the suit bonuses that we get should be something that we want. I want a shield bonus. Gallente would more than likely want an armor bonus. Matari would more than likely want a duct tape bonus. I don't think that a pots n pans bonus would be something they'd be opposed to
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2014.02.08 15:10:00 -
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I like how it is, this is how it works in EVE.
I'd like to see the Logi bonuses changed so that they effect all Min / Gal / Cal / Amarr equip (By this I mean, Amarr get a bonus to all current and upcoming Amarr Equipment, same with Cal, excluding the cloak, Min and Gal), a bonus that increases the effectiveness of one piece of Equip is just silly.
Zatara scammed me out of all my ISK. He is too mean. Please someone feel sorry for me and send me ISK.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3077
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Posted - 2014.02.08 15:12:00 -
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Squagga wrote:Well I don't know about a major buff. We should be versatile. Also we should be getting bonuses for using the weapons of our race. I'm a Cal purist and I like that. I like how the Amarr get a bonus for having their suits and using their SCRs. I should get a damage bonus for using Rosie. Also the suit bonuses that we get should be something that we want. I want a shield bonus. Gallente would more than likely want an armor bonus. Matari would more than likely want a duct tape bonus. I don't think that a pots n pans bonus would be something they'd be opposed to
Sounds like you want everything.
No.
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
176
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Posted - 2014.02.08 15:13:00 -
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Knight Solitaire wrote:I like how it is, this is how it works in EVE.
I'd like to see the Logi bonuses changed so that they effect all Min / Gal / Cal / Amarr equip (By this I mean, Amarr get a bonus to all current and upcoming Amarr Equipment, same with Cal, excluding the cloak, Min and Gal), a bonus that increases the effectiveness of one piece of Equip is just silly.
Well I think that there should be general bonuses for suits that effect all things but specific things for racial suits using racial weapons. It gives us an incentive. If it was the same across the board now matter what you use ... then what's the point of choosing?
Reloading, the silent killer.
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
707
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Posted - 2014.02.08 15:15:00 -
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Knight Solitaire wrote:I like how it is, this is how it works in EVE.
I'd like to see the Logi bonuses changed so that they effect all Min / Gal / Cal / Amarr equip (By this I mean, Amarr get a bonus to all current and upcoming Amarr Equipment, same with Cal, excluding the cloak, Min and Gal), a bonus that increases the effectiveness of one piece of Equip is just silly. I have a feeling that these bonuses will be updated as more equipment is added
Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
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