I find it funny how we didn't get attacked by a "big boy" corp until we refused to pay.

I mean no disrespect here please do not take this out of context.

I am certainly no kid. At the age of forty three and with a job that deals with billion dollar construction projects "IRL" I fully understand the smart business move this is by Kain. Absolutely brilliant. Also benefitting the corps that want to train in the spectrum of competition at a higher level, without losing that in the blink of an eye.

Business is business, I could give a flying fck on a rolling doughnut about gaining credibility with Kain because he is a CPM. His title can't give me AUR, SP, anything really of any physical asset, except security on my training grounds.

He is the one gaining credibility by providing a service such as a private military contractor would do "IRL". It is him that stands to gain the most by upping his credibility by living up to the contract and providing the best service possible.

If you view this from a Marxist point of view, it could be considered a small Genocidal exiling of those who won't pay. From a Democratic viewpoint, it's smart business. People don't like lawyers, I don't like mine, but when I really need legal representation he's my best friend.

I mean no disrespect here please do not take this out of context.

I am certainly no kid. At the age of forty three and with a job that deals with billion dollar construction projects "IRL" I fully understand the smart business move this is by Kain. Absolutely brilliant. Also benefitting the corps that want to train in the spectrum of competition at a higher level, without losing that in the blink of an eye.

Business is business, I could give a flying fck on a rolling doughnut about gaining credibility with Kain because he is a CPM. His title can't give me AUR, SP, anything really of any physical asset, except security on my training grounds.

He is the one gaining credibility by providing a service such as a private military contractor would do "IRL". It is him that stands to gain the most by upping his credibility by living up to the contract and providing the best service possible.

If you view this from a Marxist point of view, it could be considered a small Genocidal exiling of those who won't pay. From a Democratic viewpoint, it's smart business. People don't like lawyers, I don't like mine, but when I really need legal representation he's my best friend.

Easy, call in an orbital! Dafuq are you on about nuts, comparing real life to video games... silly ********.

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Meh, its not that big of a deal.

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I see where you all are coming with the extortion bit.

Its a sticky situation, most of us who post here are setup in corps and good to go, we have isk, we have our teams, some good some bad, but we don't really have to worry. Everything is locked up anyway, the only fights are on PFC right now for the most part.

But you gotta put yourself in the new player, new corp, small corp shoes. What can they do right now... A lot of the playerbase probably couldn't care less about PC, many probably don't know about it, heck I meet new guys all the time who don't even know other players on the team cant hear them talk when they are in squad voice, lol.

If these newer/smaller guys care enough about PC, let them pay to play. Whats the worst that could happen? The richest players currently in the game get a little richer? Us outsiders will never know what the money goes towards, or where it ends up if it isn't used "policing" PFC. Apparently the people who ARE paying have a transparent contract with Kane/NF and I hope for their sakes that they do know all the fine details of how this whole scheme is working.

There is nothing we can do about it.... besides attack Kane, ERA, NF, and all of their beasts. and of course, gripe on the forums.

Its an interesting dynamic of this game... Cant blame anyone for being jelly they didn't come up with it first, and that's probably where most of these negative sentiments are coming. **** the new player and **** off letting my enemies get richer.. I get it. Right now, personally, if this helps bring new players in and keep players playing.. I'm all for it. Let them amass a little more wealth for now.. changes will come eventually, they always do.

Actually you should know as a PM that any construction project with any state or federal funding has almost a two to three year process that takes care of those problems IRL, securing of access and easements, paying for right of ways, even paying for legal insurance and license to be even considered to be allowed to bid on large scale projects. That is not extortion, that is the legal process involved in obtaining proper access and removal through buyout of parties not involved or in way of said projects, and insuring right to payment through retainage fee's which usually run around 10% of total contract value.

Wanna keep going?

Are you guys seriously still responding to Bigole? Don't worry about him - no one listens to him. He's just running his mouth because it makes him look good to his AE masters in hopes they'll field him again.

Spend your time trying to improve the system - not smashing your head against a wall trying to convince an idiot why it's necessary to have a workable PFC system.

You are saying all the right things; legal process, legal insurance, proper access. Shall I keep going? No one just shows up and says, "here, pay this is or this will happen"

I have enjoyed adult conversation instead of %%%$$@#$%%%%^&&^&^&&&**&*( , you fng scrub.

Kudo's to you for that Bigole...

Nah, your obviously lying. Your on all day and never get fielded because AE doesn't need another worthless heavy who can't beat a scout in a 1v1 when he's running a speed fit.