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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:42:00 -
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I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available.
BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec.
Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted.
*vent over*
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
868
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:50:00 -
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Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1945
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:52:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob.
Since when was Nyain San a decent corp?
Yours Truly,
Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
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Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:55:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp?
Good question.
Getting infamous for equipment spamming with the intention of causing as much lag as possible and abuse it hardly smacks of "decency" in any sense of the word... |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
868
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:57:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp?
Since we're number 1 in PC and have stomped squads from every corp out there in pubs (the majority of the time.)
And most importantly, since the forums b!tch about us non stop for stomping them.
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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:58:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob.
1. My corp is very good, we don't need to play with crutches let alone proto all day long to win a game.
2. A respec in this game will hugely affect balance.... (kind of a silly point you bring)
3. You use the crutch.
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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:58:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Since we're number 1 in PC and have stomped squads from every corp out there in pubs (the majority of the time.) And most importantly, since the forums b!tch about us non stop for stomping them.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Locking districts don't count.
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
869
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:02:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Good question. Getting infamous for equipment spamming with the intention of causing as much lag as possible and abuse it hardly smacks of "decency" in any sense of the word...
You do realise any equipment spam lags both teams, mostly the team closer to it, which ends up being friendly 100% of the time.
Equipment spam doesn't magically lag one team and not the other.
Please know what you're talking about before listening to the r*tards that are 90% of the forums.
Its like people blaming PC lag on us, its a joke to anyone who knows anything about PC.
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
869
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:04:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Since we're number 1 in PC and have stomped squads from every corp out there in pubs (the majority of the time.) And most importantly, since the forums b!tch about us non stop for stomping them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Locking districts don't count.
Locking districts? nyain san? god you really don't know anything about PC it seems
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Jackof All-Trades
The Black Renaissance
440
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:10:00 -
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Well this thread derailed o.0
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Syeven Reed
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:12:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:Well this thread derailed o.0
That it did....
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:12:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:Well this thread derailed o.0
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
Yours Truly,
Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
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Syeven Reed
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:18:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Jackof All-Trades wrote:Well this thread derailed o.0 Sorry. I couldn't resist.
It's cool! I don't blame you.
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Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
199
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:20:00 -
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Well, as a Logibro, I am quite happy with all the Dropsuit Upgrades I have and would like the opportunity to be able to switch to a logi suit that would benefit how I best support my team.
"...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:25:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. *vent over*
Because of Racial Bonus and Heavy/Commando Line-up.
Let's take an example :
My Logi Amarr.
His bonus is on Armor repair.
The Logi base bonus was 5hp/s for Level 5.
SOOOOOOO. It was an "obligation" to spent SP on Armor Repair. Because if not it's like waisting all his Racial Bonus.
BUT now that Logi bonus is going to change why i should have waste SP for armor repper i'm never going to use anymore.
While it's absolutely NOT my fault ?
Same for Commandos : Their bonus is for "specific" weapons.
Not the one they actually have.
So they NEED respec for their weapon.
Same for everything.
Actualy Amarr Heavy have spent SP on Armor Plates.
But now they finally have the one they wanted "exemple" : Caldari.
These Armor plates will become Useless.
You see ? You just CAN'T.
If you have a problem with Assault Logi i don't see why you want to penalize the WHOLE game. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:26:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp?
The more i read you, the more i like you.
But to be honest the Author is totally wrong. |
Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:33:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. *vent over* Because of Racial Bonus and Heavy/Commando Line-up. Let's take an example : My Logi Amarr. His bonus is on Armor repair. The Logi base bonus was 5hp/s for Level 5. SOOOOOOO. It was an "obligation" to spent SP on Armor Repair. Because if not it's like waiting all his Racial Bonus. BUT now that Logi bonus is going to change why i should have waste SP for armor repper i'm never going to use anymore. While it's absolutely NOT my fault ? Same for Commandos : Their bonus is for "specific" weapons. Not the one they actually have. So they NEED respec for their weapon. Same for everything. Actualy Amarr Heavy have spent SP on Armor Plates. But now they finally have the one they wanted "exemple" : Caldari. These Armor plates will become Useless. You see ? You just CAN'T. If you have a problem with Assault Logi i don't see why you want to penalize the WHOLE game.
Back on topic!! YES!
This is my point , if you wanted to have a suit with an armor repair go Gallente with the drop suit command respec. You don't need to spec out of repair
As for weapons that's cool, its a different tree, I agree that a respec on them may, MAY be required.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
1133
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:43:00 -
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There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool.
So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary.
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Ayures II
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
409
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:46:00 -
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No respec period, dot, end of story. Deal with it and stop acting so entitled to the next FOTM. |
maka rax
Space Road Truckers.
8
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:47:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob.
Wow, you're just being mean aren't you... |
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Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
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Posted - 2014.02.07 14:01:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool.
So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary.
So are you saying that you would not run anything besides a scanner/s? I can see wanting to proto out a piece of equipment that wasn't, but I'm having trouble understanding why you would cripple your versatility like that. Sure, there will be a bonus to specialized race equipment, but it won't make the other equipment completely useless.
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m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.02.07 14:13:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. *vent over*
Why wouldn't a respec be given to 'Dropsuit Upgrades'? in the quote below you think a respec MAY be required for 'Weaponry'? There are more drastic changes to equipment in 1.8 than there was to weaponry in 1.7. You're already not making any sense.
Syeven Reed wrote:Back on topic!! YES! This is my point , if you wanted to have a suit with an armor repair go Gallente with the drop suit command respec. You don't need to spec out of repair As for weapons that's cool, its a different tree, I agree that a respec on them may, MAY be required.
The game will be changing so much in 1.8 with the new racial suits and new equipment stats (perhaps even Assault and Logistic suit changes) that a respec in both 'Dropsuit Command' and 'Dropsuit Upgrades' would be well warranted. I would even go as far as saying a respec into 'Weaponry' as well, due to all of the racial rifles (most sidearms also) being released.
Your argument is the FOTM Slayer-Logi. I understand your frustration, which is unwarranted because the Assault and Logistic suits are nearly identical EHP/DMG when compared properly, but why penalize players who actually deserve the respec due to the mass changes to equipment and the addition of suits? I for one am disgusted with the new equipment stats and DO NOT want to play Logistics when 1.8 drops.
Honestly I chose Caldari Logistics because I enjoyed the Caldari Lore after playing Dust for a few weeks. I wanted to become a Caldari Scout but the option wasn't on the table. I made due with what I was given and had a lot of fun. Now that I can become a Caldari Scout in 1.8 why shouldn't I be refunded all of the wasted SP into 'Dropsuit Upgrades' that I will not be using as a scout? That SP could be placed into 'Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades', 'Cardiac Regulation', 'Kinetic Catalyzation', 'Profile Dampending', 'Precision Enhancement', 'Range Amplication', ' Cloaking', etc. Instead because how often you got murdered by FOTM Slayer-Logis you think the rest of us, even them, aren't viable to get a 'Dropsuit Upgrades' respec?
You are the worst kind of QQ'er. The one who refuses to see logic, any logic what so ever. One person abuses a game mechanic so we all should get punished? Please go away and keep your nonsense off of these forums. They're already cluttered enough with moronic comments, we don't need more idiotic people spewing garbage into this community. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
1134
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Posted - 2014.02.07 14:19:00 -
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Logi Stician wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool.
So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary. So are you saying that you would not run anything besides a scanner/s? I can see wanting to proto out a piece of equipment that wasn't, but I'm having trouble understanding why you would cripple your versatility like that. Sure, there will be a bonus to specialized race equipment, but it won't make the other equipment completely useless.
No Thais not what I'm saying at all. If I have nanocircuitry protoed then I would run either a 100% or 80% needle (what the hell do I need a reptool for, going to spend most of my time scanning anyway). In addition to the scanned I would also run either proto triage hive and gauged hive or 2x alloteks. I have no interest in using gimped links and reptool. I'll leave that to the logis how can do it better.
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
878
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Posted - 2014.02.07 14:25:00 -
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maka rax wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Wow, you're just being mean aren't you... Yeah, they should not respec dropsuit upgrades. If they were reorganizing the tree like they did with vehicles then yeah. Otherwise it doesn't seem to make sense.
Yes, i was being mean on purpose, as I've argued so many times for respecs and its already such a no brainer, that i didnt feel like arguing, but just being straight up. Funny because he didn't understand step 2 so I knew it'd pointless to argue after that anyways.
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Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:13:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Step 1, get a decent corp.
Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features.
Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Good question. Getting infamous for equipment spamming with the intention of causing as much lag as possible and abuse it hardly smacks of "decency" in any sense of the word... You do realise any equipment spam lags both teams, mostly the team closer to it, which ends up being friendly 100% of the time. Equipment spam doesn't magically lag one team and not the other. Please know what you're talking about before listening to the r*tards that are 90% of the forums. Its like people blaming PC lag on us, its a joke to anyone who knows anything about PC.
No, but when you capture an objective and then spam as much equipment as possible close to it, it gets a lot harder for the opposing team to capture since the lag essentially locks down anyone trying to approach the objective in question. A glitch which I and several others have seen you abuse an insane amount of occasions.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:16:00 -
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Only commando and heavy suits skills should be refunded. Those guys deserve it.
Oh and scouts too. I'm sticking with my Gallente, but I'm sure others don't feel the same.
I'd love to see slayer Logis get stuck in a non slayer suit.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
410
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:19:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. *vent over*
So you post this purely to punish people. Must be american.
While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
697
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:59:00 -
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Ok....
No Upgrades Refund? Really? What if the heavies want to STAY Amarr, those Armor rep SP's would be spent better in other places.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
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Jackof All-Trades
The Black Renaissance
444
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Posted - 2014.02.07 23:16:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool.
So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary.
Uplinks are basically the core of the battlefield, essential to any victory. Repair tools are essential to any armour tanker. Triage hives are good for point defence, but for team on the move, or if you're dedicated to a heavy (which becomes really scary for the enemy) then rep tools are a must. The nerf can't ever change that.
I'm certainly keeping mine, I'm very happy with my dropsuit upgrades.
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Jackof All-Trades
The Black Renaissance
444
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Posted - 2014.02.07 23:17:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Ok....
No Upgrades Refund? Really? What if the heavies want to STAY Amarr, those Armor rep SP's would be spent better in other places.
Not really, they still need to rep.
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