DUST Search - No respec on dropsuit upgrades!

All Channels

General Discussions

No respec on dropsuit upgrades!

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 293	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:42:00 - [1] - Quote I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over Gÿé Syeven 514
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 868	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:50:00 - [2] - Quote Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1945	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:52:00 - [3] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 229	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:55:00 - [4] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Good question. Getting infamous for equipment spamming with the intention of causing as much lag as possible and abuse it hardly smacks of "decency" in any sense of the word...
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 868	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:57:00 - [5] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Since we're number 1 in PC and have stomped squads from every corp out there in pubs (the majority of the time.) And most importantly, since the forums b!tch about us non stop for stomping them. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 294	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:58:00 - [6] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. 1. My corp is very good, we don't need to play with crutches let alone proto all day long to win a game. 2. A respec in this game will hugely affect balance.... (kind of a silly point you bring) 3. You use the crutch. Gÿé Syeven 514
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 294	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:58:00 - [7] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Since we're number 1 in PC and have stomped squads from every corp out there in pubs (the majority of the time.) And most importantly, since the forums b!tch about us non stop for stomping them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Locking districts don't count. Gÿé Syeven 514
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 869	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:02:00 - [8] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Good question. Getting infamous for equipment spamming with the intention of causing as much lag as possible and abuse it hardly smacks of "decency" in any sense of the word... You do realise any equipment spam lags both teams, mostly the team closer to it, which ends up being friendly 100% of the time. Equipment spam doesn't magically lag one team and not the other. Please know what you're talking about before listening to the r*tards that are 90% of the forums. Its like people blaming PC lag on us, its a joke to anyone who knows anything about PC. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 869	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:04:00 - [9] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Since we're number 1 in PC and have stomped squads from every corp out there in pubs (the majority of the time.) And most importantly, since the forums b!tch about us non stop for stomping them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Locking districts don't count. Locking districts? nyain san? god you really don't know anything about PC it seems How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 440	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:10:00 - [10] - Quote Well this thread derailed o.0 "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente

Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 300	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:12:00 - [11] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Well this thread derailed o.0 That it did.... Gÿé Syeven 514
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1950	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:12:00 - [12] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Well this thread derailed o.0 Sorry. I couldn't resist. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 300	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:18:00 - [13] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Jackof All-Trades wrote: Well this thread derailed o.0 Sorry. I couldn't resist. It's cool! I don't blame you. Gÿé Syeven 514
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 199	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:20:00 - [14] - Quote Well, as a Logibro, I am quite happy with all the Dropsuit Upgrades I have and would like the opportunity to be able to switch to a logi suit that would benefit how I best support my team. "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 395	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:25:00 - [15] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over Because of Racial Bonus and Heavy/Commando Line-up. Let's take an example : My Logi Amarr. His bonus is on Armor repair. The Logi base bonus was 5hp/s for Level 5. SOOOOOOO. It was an "obligation" to spent SP on Armor Repair. Because if not it's like waisting all his Racial Bonus. BUT now that Logi bonus is going to change why i should have waste SP for armor repper i'm never going to use anymore. While it's absolutely NOT my fault ? Same for Commandos : Their bonus is for "specific" weapons. Not the one they actually have. So they NEED respec for their weapon. Same for everything. Actualy Amarr Heavy have spent SP on Armor Plates. But now they finally have the one they wanted "exemple" : Caldari. These Armor plates will become Useless. You see ? You just CAN'T. If you have a problem with Assault Logi i don't see why you want to penalize the WHOLE game.
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 395	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:26:00 - [16] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? The more i read you, the more i like you. But to be honest the Author is totally wrong.
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 300	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:33:00 - [17] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over Because of Racial Bonus and Heavy/Commando Line-up. Let's take an example : My Logi Amarr. His bonus is on Armor repair. The Logi base bonus was 5hp/s for Level 5. SOOOOOOO. It was an "obligation" to spent SP on Armor Repair. Because if not it's like waiting all his Racial Bonus. BUT now that Logi bonus is going to change why i should have waste SP for armor repper i'm never going to use anymore. While it's absolutely NOT my fault ? Same for Commandos : Their bonus is for "specific" weapons. Not the one they actually have. So they NEED respec for their weapon. Same for everything. Actualy Amarr Heavy have spent SP on Armor Plates. But now they finally have the one they wanted "exemple" : Caldari. These Armor plates will become Useless. You see ? You just CAN'T. If you have a problem with Assault Logi i don't see why you want to penalize the WHOLE game. Back on topic!! YES! This is my point , if you wanted to have a suit with an armor repair go Gallente with the drop suit command respec. You don't need to spec out of repair As for weapons that's cool, its a different tree, I agree that a respec on them may, MAY be required. Gÿé Syeven 514
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1133	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:43:00 - [18] - Quote There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool. So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary. {:)}{3GÇó>
Ayures II Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 409	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:46:00 - [19] - Quote No respec period, dot, end of story. Deal with it and stop acting so entitled to the next FOTM.
maka rax Space Road Truckers. 8	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:47:00 - [20] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Wow, you're just being mean aren't you...

Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 199	Posted - 2014.02.07 14:01:00 - [21] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool. So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary. So are you saying that you would not run anything besides a scanner/s? I can see wanting to proto out a piece of equipment that wasn't, but I'm having trouble understanding why you would cripple your versatility like that. Sure, there will be a bonus to specialized race equipment, but it won't make the other equipment completely useless. "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 341	Posted - 2014.02.07 14:13:00 - [22] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over Why wouldn't a respec be given to 'Dropsuit Upgrades'? in the quote below you think a respec MAY be required for 'Weaponry'? There are more drastic changes to equipment in 1.8 than there was to weaponry in 1.7. You're already not making any sense. Syeven Reed wrote: Back on topic!! YES! This is my point , if you wanted to have a suit with an armor repair go Gallente with the drop suit command respec. You don't need to spec out of repair As for weapons that's cool, its a different tree, I agree that a respec on them may, MAY be required. The game will be changing so much in 1.8 with the new racial suits and new equipment stats (perhaps even Assault and Logistic suit changes) that a respec in both 'Dropsuit Command' and 'Dropsuit Upgrades' would be well warranted. I would even go as far as saying a respec into 'Weaponry' as well, due to all of the racial rifles (most sidearms also) being released. Your argument is the FOTM Slayer-Logi. I understand your frustration, which is unwarranted because the Assault and Logistic suits are nearly identical EHP/DMG when compared properly, but why penalize players who actually deserve the respec due to the mass changes to equipment and the addition of suits? I for one am disgusted with the new equipment stats and DO NOT want to play Logistics when 1.8 drops. Honestly I chose Caldari Logistics because I enjoyed the Caldari Lore after playing Dust for a few weeks. I wanted to become a Caldari Scout but the option wasn't on the table. I made due with what I was given and had a lot of fun. Now that I can become a Caldari Scout in 1.8 why shouldn't I be refunded all of the wasted SP into 'Dropsuit Upgrades' that I will not be using as a scout? That SP could be placed into 'Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades', 'Cardiac Regulation', 'Kinetic Catalyzation', 'Profile Dampending', 'Precision Enhancement', 'Range Amplication', ' Cloaking', etc. Instead because how often you got murdered by FOTM Slayer-Logis you think the rest of us, even them, aren't viable to get a 'Dropsuit Upgrades' respec? You are the worst kind of QQ'er. The one who refuses to see logic, any logic what so ever. One person abuses a game mechanic so we all should get punished? Please go away and keep your nonsense off of these forums. They're already cluttered enough with moronic comments, we don't need more idiotic people spewing garbage into this community.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1134	Posted - 2014.02.07 14:19:00 - [23] - Quote Logi Stician wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool. So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary. So are you saying that you would not run anything besides a scanner/s? I can see wanting to proto out a piece of equipment that wasn't, but I'm having trouble understanding why you would cripple your versatility like that. Sure, there will be a bonus to specialized race equipment, but it won't make the other equipment completely useless. No Thais not what I'm saying at all. If I have nanocircuitry protoed then I would run either a 100% or 80% needle (what the hell do I need a reptool for, going to spend most of my time scanning anyway). In addition to the scanned I would also run either proto triage hive and gauged hive or 2x alloteks. I have no interest in using gimped links and reptool. I'll leave that to the logis how can do it better. {:)}{3GÇó>
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 878	Posted - 2014.02.07 14:25:00 - [24] - Quote maka rax wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Wow, you're just being mean aren't you... Yeah, they should not respec dropsuit upgrades. If they were reorganizing the tree like they did with vehicles then yeah. Otherwise it doesn't seem to make sense. Yes, i was being mean on purpose, as I've argued so many times for respecs and its already such a no brainer, that i didnt feel like arguing, but just being straight up. Funny because he didn't understand step 2 so I knew it'd pointless to argue after that anyways. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 230	Posted - 2014.02.07 21:13:00 - [25] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Good question. Getting infamous for equipment spamming with the intention of causing as much lag as possible and abuse it hardly smacks of "decency" in any sense of the word... You do realise any equipment spam lags both teams, mostly the team closer to it, which ends up being friendly 100% of the time. Equipment spam doesn't magically lag one team and not the other. Please know what you're talking about before listening to the r*tards that are 90% of the forums. Its like people blaming PC lag on us, its a joke to anyone who knows anything about PC. No, but when you capture an objective and then spam as much equipment as possible close to it, it gets a lot harder for the opposing team to capture since the lag essentially locks down anyone trying to approach the objective in question. A glitch which I and several others have seen you abuse an insane amount of occasions. Abusing game glitches in your favor doesn't make you "skilled"...
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2169	Posted - 2014.02.07 21:16:00 - [26] - Quote Only commando and heavy suits skills should be refunded. Those guys deserve it. Oh and scouts too. I'm sticking with my Gallente, but I'm sure others don't feel the same. I'd love to see slayer Logis get stuck in a non slayer suit. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 410	Posted - 2014.02.07 21:19:00 - [27] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over So you post this purely to punish people. Must be american. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 697	Posted - 2014.02.07 21:59:00 - [28] - Quote Ok.... No Upgrades Refund? Really? What if the heavies want to STAY Amarr, those Armor rep SP's would be spent better in other places. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 444	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:16:00 - [29] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool. So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary. Uplinks are basically the core of the battlefield, essential to any victory. Repair tools are essential to any armour tanker. Triage hives are good for point defence, but for team on the move, or if you're dedicated to a heavy (which becomes really scary for the enemy) then rep tools are a must. The nerf can't ever change that. I'm certainly keeping mine, I'm very happy with my dropsuit upgrades. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 444	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:17:00 - [30] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Ok.... No Upgrades Refund? Really? What if the heavies want to STAY Amarr, those Armor rep SP's would be spent better in other places. Not really, they still need to rep. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente

Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 31	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:22:00 - [31] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Ha Never heard of your corp b4, everyone knows that DU and TUL are the best corps out there. Let the guy say what he wants regardless of his corp. maybe that's why your corp isn't that popular Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 864	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:23:00 - [32] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over thats excactly why we r all saving our sp up Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1140	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:32:00 - [33] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool. So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary. Uplinks are basically the core of the battlefield, essential to any victory. Repair tools are essential to any armour tanker. Triage hives are good for point defence, but for team on the move, or if you're dedicated to a heavy (which becomes really scary for the enemy) then rep tools are a must. The nerf can't ever change that. I'm certainly keeping mine, I'm very happy with my dropsuit upgrades. Son-Of A-Gun wrote: No That is not what I'm saying at all. If I have nanocircuitry protoed then I would run either a 100% or 80% needle (what the hell do I need a reptool for, going to spend most of my time scanning anyway). In addition to the scanner I would also run either proto triage hive and gauged hive or 2x alloteks. I have no interest in using gimped links and reptool. I'll leave that to the logis who can do it better. Why was it necessary for me to repost this? You can play it the way you want to and I want the option to be able to play it the way I want to. I would rather put the SP into something that I feel will be more useful. I see no need to have two million SP rapped up into skills I am not going to use. {:)}{3GÇó>
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 460	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:33:00 - [34] - Quote I believe many people are stating that weaponry is getting a refund because the Assault suits will probably be tied to that racial weapon type. Caldari for hybrid/rail, Minmatar for projectile, Gallente for plasma/blaster, and Amarr for energy weaponry. So that means that by proxy of the change to Dropsuits, Weaponry is changing vastly. In short, if you are using X race suit but not X race weapon as an Assault you are missing out heavily. Dropsuit Upgrades kinda, sorta falls into the same point. "I couldn't be a Caldari Scout before. If I could have, I would not have put points into Gallente Scout or being able to use better Armor plates." It falls sort of in line with the Weaponry refund; it is essentially the same argument. Take Heavies for example. "I had two chooses if I wanted to be a Sentinel. Be an Amarr or don't be a Sentinel. Because I had to be an Amarr Sentinel to be a Sentinel period, I put points into Armor Plates. The Caldari Heavy, which I wanted to be since the start of the game, has no use for Armor Plates. So I guess I should have just waited a year for the Caldari Heavy?" To me, I think a Dropsuit Command refund is essential (99% chance), a Weaponry refund would go a long way to getting people understanding the role of each Suit (90% chance), and a Dropsuit Upgrades would just mean no 'wasted' points (50% chance). I am actually kinda, sorta against a Dropsuit Upgrades refund as 5% extra Armor and Shield will always be useful. However, if two of the three Infantry skills are refunded for what reason would you not go for all three?
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1848	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:42:00 - [35] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over What about my other equipment you know the real logi equipment? Armor and Shields are not the same!
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution Public Disorder. 1859	Posted - 2014.02.07 23:43:00 - [36] - Quote As a future scout in 1.8 in what situation will i ever need a rep tool,scanner, or a nanite/nano? That sp would be better spent on electronic upgrades and biotics/RE's/cloaks. New born sAMARRi
Evan Gotabor Prima Gallicus 9	Posted - 2014.02.08 00:05:00 - [37] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over The assault logi were assault because they didn't spec in equipment or waste PG/CPU on something less important than damagers. The only thing you prove by this is that first you have no argument, and second, you are ready to punish the entire dust community who need these SP because you have yourself enough SP to have both upgrades, proto weapons and one or two proto dropsuit. After all, the only ones who want no changes are the only one who can abuse the system or don't want their "superiority" to be contested. And can I recall you that the people who used to play murder taxi got back both the SP and ISK they spent on these vehicules ? What a punishment for those guys... Gallente logistic dropsuit / Dropship pilot
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10626	Posted - 2014.02.08 00:29:00 - [38] - Quote Dropsuit Command Dropsuit Upgrades Weaponry These trees will be refunded. Simply posting so I can link back to it and say 'I told you so' Carry on Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2783	Posted - 2014.02.08 00:31:00 - [39] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Good opinions and being in a good corp are not mutually exclusive. I've seen several newberries with good ideas. And I've seen several Pub Stars with terrible ones. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 660	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:29:00 - [40] - Quote I'm still going to logi when 1.8 drops because I have been doing it since closed beta and I am a stubborn bastard, but I can see many current true logis wanting to get out of the role and spend the millions of SP they put into reptools, nanos, uplinks, and scanners into something better. Because unless CCP announces something different than what was found on singularity for the logi class, CCP is f**king us and not even having the decency to give a reach around. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.

Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Public Disorder. 1875	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:40:00 - [41] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over Because of Racial Bonus and Heavy/Commando Line-up. Let's take an example : My Logi Amarr. His bonus is on Armor repair. The Logi base bonus was 5hp/s for Level 5. SOOOOOOO. It was an "obligation" to spent SP on Armor Repair. Because if not it's like waisting all his Racial Bonus. BUT now that Logi bonus is going to change why i should have waste SP for armor repper i'm never going to use anymore. While it's absolutely NOT my fault ? Same for Commandos : Their bonus is for "specific" weapons. Not the one they actually have. So they NEED respec for their weapon. Same for everything. Actualy Amarr Heavy have spent SP on Armor Plates. But now they finally have the one they wanted "exemple" : Caldari. These Armor plates will become Useless. You see ? You just CAN'T. If you have a problem with Assault Logi i don't see why you want to penalize the WHOLE game. exactly. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
OZAROW 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1351	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:42:00 - [42] - Quote m twiggz wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over Why wouldn't a respec be given to 'Dropsuit Upgrades'? in the quote below you think a respec MAY be required for 'Weaponry'? There are more drastic changes to equipment in 1.8 than there was to weaponry in 1.7. You're already not making any sense. Syeven Reed wrote: Back on topic!! YES! This is my point , if you wanted to have a suit with an armor repair go Gallente with the drop suit command respec. You don't need to spec out of repair As for weapons that's cool, its a different tree, I agree that a respec on them may, MAY be required. The game will be changing so much in 1.8 with the new racial suits and new equipment stats (perhaps even Assault and Logistic suit changes) that a respec in both 'Dropsuit Command' and 'Dropsuit Upgrades' would be well warranted. I would even go as far as saying a respec into 'Weaponry' as well, due to all of the racial rifles (most sidearms also) being released. Your argument is the FOTM Slayer-Logi. I understand your frustration, which is unwarranted because the Assault and Logistic suits are nearly identical EHP/DMG when compared properly, but why penalize players who actually deserve the respec due to the mass changes to equipment and the addition of suits? I for one am disgusted with the new equipment stats and DO NOT want to play Logistics when 1.8 drops. Honestly I chose Caldari Logistics because I enjoyed the Caldari Lore after playing Dust for a few weeks. I wanted to become a Caldari Scout but the option wasn't on the table. I made due with what I was given and had a lot of fun. Now that I can become a Caldari Scout in 1.8 why shouldn't I be refunded all of the wasted SP into 'Dropsuit Upgrades' that I will not be using as a scout? That SP could be placed into 'Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades', 'Cardiac Regulation', 'Kinetic Catalyzation', 'Profile Dampending', 'Precision Enhancement', 'Range Amplication', ' Cloaking', etc. Instead because how often you got murdered by FOTM Slayer-Logis you think the rest of us, even them, aren't viable to get a 'Dropsuit Upgrades' respec? You are the worst kind of QQ'er. The one who refuses to see logic, any logic what so ever. One person abuses a game mechanic so we all should get punished? Please go away and keep your nonsense off of these forums. They're already cluttered enough with moronic comments, we don't need more idiotic people spewing garbage into this community. If you really wanted to be a scout why didn't you build your LOGI like a scout and skill into electronics( damps, range, percision) , biotics, shields, shotguns, remotes? What did you waste sp on so badly that you need to redo everything? Least your scout has all the equip it needs, but not investing in scout friendly mods was your decision, and if you were a scout at heart you would have, so it sounds like since your LOGI got kicked in the balls you want a cloak an think you deserve it, an I would back you except you have the most ftom suit ccp ever made lol SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 347	Posted - 2014.02.08 02:13:00 - [43] - Quote OZAROW wrote: m twiggz wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over Why wouldn't a respec be given to 'Dropsuit Upgrades'? in the quote below you think a respec MAY be required for 'Weaponry'? There are more drastic changes to equipment in 1.8 than there was to weaponry in 1.7. You're already not making any sense. Syeven Reed wrote: Back on topic!! YES! This is my point , if you wanted to have a suit with an armor repair go Gallente with the drop suit command respec. You don't need to spec out of repair As for weapons that's cool, its a different tree, I agree that a respec on them may, MAY be required. The game will be changing so much in 1.8 with the new racial suits and new equipment stats (perhaps even Assault and Logistic suit changes) that a respec in both 'Dropsuit Command' and 'Dropsuit Upgrades' would be well warranted. I would even go as far as saying a respec into 'Weaponry' as well, due to all of the racial rifles (most sidearms also) being released. Your argument is the FOTM Slayer-Logi. I understand your frustration, which is unwarranted because the Assault and Logistic suits are nearly identical EHP/DMG when compared properly, but why penalize players who actually deserve the respec due to the mass changes to equipment and the addition of suits? I for one am disgusted with the new equipment stats and DO NOT want to play Logistics when 1.8 drops. Honestly I chose Caldari Logistics because I enjoyed the Caldari Lore after playing Dust for a few weeks. I wanted to become a Caldari Scout but the option wasn't on the table. I made due with what I was given and had a lot of fun. Now that I can become a Caldari Scout in 1.8 why shouldn't I be refunded all of the wasted SP into 'Dropsuit Upgrades' that I will not be using as a scout? That SP could be placed into 'Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades', 'Cardiac Regulation', 'Kinetic Catalyzation', 'Profile Dampending', 'Precision Enhancement', 'Range Amplication', ' Cloaking', etc. Instead because how often you got murdered by FOTM Slayer-Logis you think the rest of us, even them, aren't viable to get a 'Dropsuit Upgrades' respec? You are the worst kind of QQ'er. The one who refuses to see logic, any logic what so ever. One person abuses a game mechanic so we all should get punished? Please go away and keep your nonsense off of these forums. They're already cluttered enough with moronic comments, we don't need more idiotic people spewing garbage into this community. If you really wanted to be a scout why didn't you build your LOGI like a scout and skill into electronics( damps, range, percision) , biotics, shields, shotguns, remotes? What did you waste sp on so badly that you need to redo everything? Least your scout has all the equip it needs, but not investing in scout friendly mods was your decision, and if you were a scout at heart you would have, so it sounds like since your LOGI got kicked in the balls you want a cloak an think you deserve it, an I would back you except you have the most ftom suit ccp ever made lol Your point is valid. Thank you.
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 451	Posted - 2014.02.08 09:32:00 - [44] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Jackof All-Trades wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool. So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary. Uplinks are basically the core of the battlefield, essential to any victory. Repair tools are essential to any armour tanker. Triage hives are good for point defence, but for team on the move, or if you're dedicated to a heavy (which becomes really scary for the enemy) then rep tools are a must. The nerf can't ever change that. I'm certainly keeping mine, I'm very happy with my dropsuit upgrades. Son-Of A-Gun wrote: No That is not what I'm saying at all. If I have nanocircuitry protoed then I would run either a 100% or 80% needle (what the hell do I need a reptool for, going to spend most of my time scanning anyway). In addition to the scanner I would also run either proto triage hive and gauged hive or 2x alloteks. I have no interest in using gimped links and reptool. I'll leave that to the logis who can do it better. Why was it necessary for me to repost this? You can play it the way you want to and I want the option to be able to play it the way I want to. I would rather put the SP into something that I feel will be more useful. I see no need to have two million SP rapped up into skills I am not going to use. As much as I wish for it to be the case, that's not what respecs are for - and if anything, that's what CCP wishes to avoid. A change in play style (to CCP) should be done in the creation of an alt, not the redistribution of skill points. CCP wishes for choices to have consequences, and unfortunately, that's what they think that means. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 312	Posted - 2014.02.08 09:39:00 - [45] - Quote OZAROW wrote: m twiggz wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over Why wouldn't a respec be given to 'Dropsuit Upgrades'? in the quote below you think a respec MAY be required for 'Weaponry'? There are more drastic changes to equipment in 1.8 than there was to weaponry in 1.7. You're already not making any sense. Syeven Reed wrote: Back on topic!! YES! This is my point , if you wanted to have a suit with an armor repair go Gallente with the drop suit command respec. You don't need to spec out of repair As for weapons that's cool, its a different tree, I agree that a respec on them may, MAY be required. The game will be changing so much in 1.8 with the new racial suits and new equipment stats (perhaps even Assault and Logistic suit changes) that a respec in both 'Dropsuit Command' and 'Dropsuit Upgrades' would be well warranted. I would even go as far as saying a respec into 'Weaponry' as well, due to all of the racial rifles (most sidearms also) being released. Your argument is the FOTM Slayer-Logi. I understand your frustration, which is unwarranted because the Assault and Logistic suits are nearly identical EHP/DMG when compared properly, but why penalize players who actually deserve the respec due to the mass changes to equipment and the addition of suits? I for one am disgusted with the new equipment stats and DO NOT want to play Logistics when 1.8 drops. Honestly I chose Caldari Logistics because I enjoyed the Caldari Lore after playing Dust for a few weeks. I wanted to become a Caldari Scout but the option wasn't on the table. I made due with what I was given and had a lot of fun. Now that I can become a Caldari Scout in 1.8 why shouldn't I be refunded all of the wasted SP into 'Dropsuit Upgrades' that I will not be using as a scout? That SP could be placed into 'Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades', 'Cardiac Regulation', 'Kinetic Catalyzation', 'Profile Dampending', 'Precision Enhancement', 'Range Amplication', ' Cloaking', etc. Instead because how often you got murdered by FOTM Slayer-Logis you think the rest of us, even them, aren't viable to get a 'Dropsuit Upgrades' respec? You are the worst kind of QQ'er. The one who refuses to see logic, any logic what so ever. One person abuses a game mechanic so we all should get punished? Please go away and keep your nonsense off of these forums. They're already cluttered enough with moronic comments, we don't need more idiotic people spewing garbage into this community. If you really wanted to be a scout why didn't you build your LOGI like a scout and skill into electronics( damps, range, percision) , biotics, shields, shotguns, remotes? What did you waste sp on so badly that you need to redo everything? Least your scout has all the equip it needs, but not investing in scout friendly mods was your decision, and if you were a scout at heart you would have, so it sounds like since your LOGI got kicked in the balls you want a cloak an think you deserve it, an I would back you except you have the most ftom suit ccp ever made lol Yes! completely and coherently agree with this statement of disregarding his role! Gÿé Syeven 514
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1202	Posted - 2014.02.08 09:54:00 - [46] - Quote OZAROW wrote: m twiggz wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over Why wouldn't a respec be given to 'Dropsuit Upgrades'? in the quote below you think a respec MAY be required for 'Weaponry'? There are more drastic changes to equipment in 1.8 than there was to weaponry in 1.7. You're already not making any sense. Syeven Reed wrote: Back on topic!! YES! This is my point , if you wanted to have a suit with an armor repair go Gallente with the drop suit command respec. You don't need to spec out of repair As for weapons that's cool, its a different tree, I agree that a respec on them may, MAY be required. The game will be changing so much in 1.8 with the new racial suits and new equipment stats (perhaps even Assault and Logistic suit changes) that a respec in both 'Dropsuit Command' and 'Dropsuit Upgrades' would be well warranted. I would even go as far as saying a respec into 'Weaponry' as well, due to all of the racial rifles (most sidearms also) being released. Your argument is the FOTM Slayer-Logi. I understand your frustration, which is unwarranted because the Assault and Logistic suits are nearly identical EHP/DMG when compared properly, but why penalize players who actually deserve the respec due to the mass changes to equipment and the addition of suits? I for one am disgusted with the new equipment stats and DO NOT want to play Logistics when 1.8 drops. Honestly I chose Caldari Logistics because I enjoyed the Caldari Lore after playing Dust for a few weeks. I wanted to become a Caldari Scout but the option wasn't on the table. I made due with what I was given and had a lot of fun. Now that I can become a Caldari Scout in 1.8 why shouldn't I be refunded all of the wasted SP into 'Dropsuit Upgrades' that I will not be using as a scout? That SP could be placed into 'Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades', 'Cardiac Regulation', 'Kinetic Catalyzation', 'Profile Dampending', 'Precision Enhancement', 'Range Amplication', ' Cloaking', etc. Instead because how often you got murdered by FOTM Slayer-Logis you think the rest of us, even them, aren't viable to get a 'Dropsuit Upgrades' respec? You are the worst kind of QQ'er. The one who refuses to see logic, any logic what so ever. One person abuses a game mechanic so we all should get punished? Please go away and keep your nonsense off of these forums. They're already cluttered enough with moronic comments, we don't need more idiotic people spewing garbage into this community. If you really wanted to be a scout why didn't you build your LOGI like a scout and skill into electronics( damps, range, percision) , biotics, shields, shotguns, remotes? What did you waste sp on so badly that you need to redo everything? Least your scout has all the equip it needs, but not investing in scout friendly mods was your decision, and if you were a scout at heart you would have, so it sounds like since your LOGI got kicked in the balls you want a cloak an think you deserve it, an I would back you except you have the most ftom suit ccp ever made lol wasted SP? minmatar assault amarr heavy And no not even get me started on weapons like MD and laser. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1565	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:20:00 - [47] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Step 1, get a decent corp. Step 2. Maybe people will care what you have to say when it comes to balace or features. Step 3. Stop being a downey and/or noob. Since when was Nyain San a decent corp? Good question. Getting infamous for equipment spamming with the intention of causing as much lag as possible and abuse it hardly smacks of "decency" in any sense of the word... You do realise any equipment spam lags both teams, mostly the team closer to it, which ends up being friendly 100% of the time. Equipment spam doesn't magically lag one team and not the other. Please know what you're talking about before listening to the rtards that are 90% of the forums. Its like people blaming PC lag on us, its a joke to anyone who knows anything about PC. A negationist. Interesting subject for studies. Especially vivisection. 1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...*
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1140	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:34:00 - [48] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Jackof All-Trades wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: There needs to be a dropsuit upgrades respec as well. For one, if there is going to be a dropsuit command respec, anyone who will no longer be in logi suits will be being unreasonably punished for absolutely no reason. Second, if logis are getting a bonus to spacific equipment and all equipment is being nerfed, then some logis may not want to be speced into some of the equipment that they are currently speced into. I am a Gal logi, since day one of uprising, and if the equipment nerf goes through, I see no reason why I should be speced into uplinks and repair tool. So yes, a dropsuit upgrades respec would be necessary. Uplinks are basically the core of the battlefield, essential to any victory. Repair tools are essential to any armour tanker. Triage hives are good for point defence, but for team on the move, or if you're dedicated to a heavy (which becomes really scary for the enemy) then rep tools are a must. The nerf can't ever change that. I'm certainly keeping mine, I'm very happy with my dropsuit upgrades. Son-Of A-Gun wrote: No That is not what I'm saying at all. If I have nanocircuitry protoed then I would run either a 100% or 80% needle (what the hell do I need a reptool for, going to spend most of my time scanning anyway). In addition to the scanner I would also run either proto triage hive and gauged hive or 2x alloteks. I have no interest in using gimped links and reptool. I'll leave that to the logis who can do it better. Why was it necessary for me to repost this? You can play it the way you want to and I want the option to be able to play it the way I want to. I would rather put the SP into something that I feel will be more useful. I see no need to have two million SP rapped up into skills I am not going to use. As much as I wish for it to be the case, that's not what respecs are for - and if anything, that's what CCP wishes to avoid. A change in play style (to CCP) should be done in the creation of an alt, not the redistribution of skill points. CCP wishes for choices to have consequences, and unfortunately, that's what they think that means. So, your saying that it's my fault that what I made a decision but didn't have the foresight (or ability) to peer into the future, so that I could see that at a later date my decisions would be invalidated because CCP changed the way the game is, fundamentally. If CCP wants to claim that our decision mean something then they need to stop invalidating them with fundamental game changes. {:)}{3GÇó>
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1763	Posted - 2014.02.08 10:35:00 - [49] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over They're changing everything about infantry. Time for a respec. They did the same with vehicles, there's no reason to not respec all infantry SP. A single logi suit cannot be the best with everything now. Want great 360-¦ scans? Gonna need a Gal logi. Want your nanohive to last forever? Need a Cal logi. Once I know a time frame for the rest of the hulls and turrets, I'll decide what I want with infantry and when I'm going to get it. As it looks, I'm interested in the Min logi for the great rep tool bonus. I necessarily would lose all my forge stuff, which is too bad. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6535	Posted - 2014.02.08 11:10:00 - [50] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over Using your same argument for Dropsuit Command respec, what if you spec'd into Amarr heavy because Caldari wasn't out and now you have all these useless skills invested into armor modules when you are a shield tanker? Heck, you admitted yourself the only reason you don't want to do a respec to Dropsuit Upgrades is so you can attack a few players who took up the FOTM once upon a time. This is poor reasoning in my opinion. Focus more on the players who actually deserve to have their Dropsuit Upgrades skills refunded. And Aero said unto his children, "LET THERE BE A REGISTRY" CPM Info and Q&A -Status: Open

Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1540	Posted - 2014.02.08 11:26:00 - [51] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: I can understand if you want a once in a lifetime respec on suits, it's been said time and again that they are only placeholders until racial parity is there. You would spec into Ammar heavy because the Gallente wasn't available. BUT, if you spec into a repair tool, what do you expect it to do? Shoot butterfly's and rainbows!? Dropsuit upgrades are not placeholders, therefore are in no need of a respec. Going to admit... Most of this thread is directed at assault logis who speced into them for the crutch. Sit on repairs whilst firing your rail will you!? Mwahaha, I hope the SP you spent is wasted. vent over They're changing everything about infantry. Time for a respec. They did the same with vehicles, there's no reason to not respec all infantry SP. A single logi suit cannot be the best with everything now. Want great 360-¦ scans? Gonna need a Gal logi. Want your nanohive to last forever? Need a Cal logi. Once I know a time frame for the rest of the hulls and turrets, I'll decide what I want with infantry and when I'm going to get it. As it looks, I'm interested in the Min logi for the great rep tool bonus. I necessarily would lose all my forge stuff, which is too bad. I would agree with you, except the MinLogi is essentially getting a 10% bonus over current reppers at full proto owing to the equipment nerf :( Same with all the others. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 388	Posted - 2014.02.17 17:42:00 - [52] - Quote Consider this a shameless bump Gÿé Syeven 514


Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online/DUST514, the EVE/DUST514 logo, EVE/DUST514 and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to OMG Labs to use EVE Online/DUST514 and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, OMG Labs. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.