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ladwar
Death by Disassociation
Legacy Rising
1987
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Posted - 2014.02.07 03:09:00 -
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.... deal 750 each
max active 15
deals 11250
11250*.4= 4500
3313*.8=2650(shield damage cost)
4500-3313=1187(leftover damage)
1187*1.2=1424(damage to armor)
gunnlogi base ehp 4150
base gunnlogi w/ 1 hardener beats 15 PEs with 75 hp left over.
proves they are UP:
to get 15 active PE you have to have lvl 5 explosives.
increase to 1,000
or increase blast range to 7.5(500 damage) and add breach charges(meant to kill HAVs)
or major buff with all equipment getting changed to class(RE/PE/nano hive/ uplink/ ect) from type (MLT,stable,fux, ext) limits set for active to remove equipment spam.
TL;DR equipment spam is bad, 800+ uplinks possible is ******** and it is possible. 3 people being able to spam 150 uplinks is just LOL and should never been accepted.
ccp fix your junk.
Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet.
I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth
not looking for a corp, don't ask.
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
621
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Posted - 2014.02.07 03:41:00 -
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Well a hardened tank pretty much beats everything. But they are totally UP. I propose that they ignore hardeners and always do their base damage. Would give them a use and make coralling a tank a viable strategy, even if they are hardened.
Or if that's too complicated just up the damage to RE levels. |
zibathy numbertwo
Nox Aeterna Security
426
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Posted - 2014.02.07 04:21:00 -
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Wow. Those are some sad stats.
AR
Dmg: 34,
RoF: 750 RPM,
DPS: 425,
RR
Dmg: 55,
RoF: 461 RPM,
DPS: 422,
+ double the range.
Balanced.
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ladwar
Death by Disassociation
Legacy Rising
1989
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Posted - 2014.02.07 11:15:00 -
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zibathy numbertwo wrote:Wow. Those are some sad stats.
thanks.... might do a few more if i get around to doing some more.
also, in your tag RR has reactionary delay which in games like BF4, CoD and other shooters means they have a much lower TTK but will lose to other CQC weapons if they don't fire first or score high damage shots(headshots). in dust with longer TTK (& varies alot) that reactionary delay is well rather pointless. in terms of dps you don't count the first one ever(thats how you get forge dps)
if you want a an item or topic let me know and i'll do my feedback& review of it.
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I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
261
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:17:00 -
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ladwar wrote:
ccp fix your junk.
Did you consider lower resistance that HAV have underneath the hull in your calculation?
I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
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D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
302
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:42:00 -
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ladwar wrote:.... deal 750 each max active 15 deals 11250 11250*.4= 4500 3313*.8=2650(shield damage cost) 4500-3313=1187(leftover damage) 1187*1.2=1424(damage to armor) gunnlogi base ehp 4150 base gunnlogi w/ 1 hardener beats 15 PEs with 75 hp left over. proves they are UP: to get 15 active PE you have to have lvl 5 explosives. increase to 1,000 or increase blast range to 7.5(500 damage) and add breach charges(meant to kill HAVs) or major buff with all equipment getting changed to class(RE/PE/nano hive/ uplink/ ect) from type (MLT,stable,fux, ext) limits set for active to remove equipment spam. TL;DR equipment spam is bad, 800+ uplinks possible is ******** and it is possible. 3 people being able to spam 150 uplinks is just LOL and should never been accepted. ccp fix your junk. feedback new naming sucks, go back. and did you fire your team that response on the forums? changed from weekly to bi weekly covering less topics.... nice, that will keep people from hitting you guys up on posting late or not at all. 
I agree that they are underpowered but you have missed the bonus that you get from hitting the underbelly of the tank.
This would change your numbers and would kill the tank. not 100% sure what that bonus is though |
bogeyman m
Learning Coalition College
65
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Posted - 2014.02.07 15:16:00 -
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And... A warning signal is provided for the vehicle pilot to help them avoid the PEs completely. |
ladwar
Death by Disassociation
Legacy Rising
1990
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:22:00 -
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D34NOS MAZDA wrote:ladwar wrote:.... deal 750 each max active 15 deals 11250 11250*.4= 4500 3313*.8=2650(shield damage cost) 4500-3313=1187(leftover damage) 1187*1.2=1424(damage to armor) gunnlogi base ehp 4150 base gunnlogi w/ 1 hardener beats 15 PEs with 75 hp left over. proves they are UP: to get 15 active PE you have to have lvl 5 explosives. increase to 1,000 or increase blast range to 7.5(500 damage) and add breach charges(meant to kill HAVs) or major buff with all equipment getting changed to class(RE/PE/nano hive/ uplink/ ect) from type (MLT,stable,fux, ext) limits set for active to remove equipment spam. TL;DR equipment spam is bad, 800+ uplinks possible is ******** and it is possible. 3 people being able to spam 150 uplinks is just LOL and should never been accepted. ccp fix your junk. feedback new naming sucks, go back. and did you fire your team that response on the forums? changed from weekly to bi weekly covering less topics.... nice, that will keep people from hitting you guys up on posting late or not at all. I agree that they are underpowered but you have missed the bonus that you get from hitting the underbelly of the tank. This would change your numbers and would kill the tank. not 100% sure what that bonus is though
the point was to show base numbers. yes there is a bonus damage areas( you would still need all 15 to kill a HAV w/o a extenders. the normal fit of one booster,one hardener, one extender would still live w/ hardener on) and it does matter but isn't that huge of a factor to negate the point of thread.
Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
3361
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:27:00 -
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The underside of vehicles is like a 200% multiplier. To give you an idea if a vehicle is flipped over you'll do 100% damage to it with a side arm or light weapon.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Cryius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
31
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:59:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The underside of vehicles is like a 200% multiplier. To give you an idea if a vehicle is flipped over you'll do 100% damage to it with a side arm or light weapon.
Hi!
I'll make love to your cat if its wet
If not make me a sandwich and it better be good and while your at it get me a beer
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Cyrius Li-Moody
3391
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:00:00 -
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Cryius Li-Moody wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The underside of vehicles is like a 200% multiplier. To give you an idea if a vehicle is flipped over you'll do 100% damage to it with a side arm or light weapon. Hi!
God damn it. I forgot you exist.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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noob cavman
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
594
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:04:00 -
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Moody you made it on the Internet. People are trying to become you
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
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Cryius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
31
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:05:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Cryius Li-Moody wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The underside of vehicles is like a 200% multiplier. To give you an idea if a vehicle is flipped over you'll do 100% damage to it with a side arm or light weapon. Hi! God damn it. I forgot you exist.
nice youtube. keep up the knifing.
I'll make love to your cat if its wet
If not make me a sandwich and it better be good and while your at it get me a beer
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1631
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:05:00 -
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I hear the beeping but I am usually going pretty fast not fast enough to out run the explosions but fast enough I can't back up in time so it's usually Beep Bee boom
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
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