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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
6206
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Posted - 2014.02.06 19:59:00 -
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Oy vey with these goyim.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
238
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:06:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:norttheantiv wrote:Yep, good to see you belittling the holocaust...
On another note, we are offering to help newer players for free, how is that a bad thing? How is it belittling the holocaust ? Remembering a Tragedy is how you make sure it doesn't happen again +1 because there is a serious danger of Babar's pubstomping turning into an actual holocaust. Spoiler: I didn't really give you +1. Hey how did you enjoy all those deaths in your proto gear yesterday ?? We were p1ssing ourselves laughing you .. who'd have thought 2 people in dampeners would render your entire squad useless .. 4 of you facing 1 way trying to kill 1 guy in a miltia fit whilst 2 guys in ADV killed all of you .. it was just LOL I ran solo yesterday and most days, genius. I'm afraid I don't remember every scrublet that crosses my path, but it sounds like a major event for you and your boys, so congrats. PS - Post on your main next time so I can laugh at your stats.
I just happened to remember that you were in proto and were an easy kill that's all and it was only 2 people me and a scout and the scout wasn;t even shooting at you he;d ran off te other way to chase after someone he knew to nova knife them
Stats eh .. LOL .. so .. not what happened in the past 2 matches we played against each other but what you did in the past v other people who were probably new players whilst you were in proto .. LMAO .. you don't even look behind you even whilst being shot at and you weren't even being scanned
PS This scrublet killed you 4 times in a STD suit whilst you were in proto .. I'd be a lot more concerned that your getting killed so often by undergeared scrublets than who has the better all time stats |
norttheantiv
The Rainbow Effect
80
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:10:00 -
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Hey how did you enjoy all those deaths in your proto gear yesterday ?? We were p1ssing ourselves laughing you .. who'd have thought 2 people in dampeners would render your entire squad useless .. 4 of you facing 1 way trying to kill 1 guy in a miltia fit whilst 2 guys in ADV killed all of you .. it was just LOL[/quote] I ran solo yesterday and most days, genius. I'm afraid I don't remember every scrublet that crosses my path, but it sounds like a major event for you and your boys, so congrats.
PS - Post on your main next time so I can laugh at your stats.[/quote]
I just happened to remember that you were in proto and were an easy kill that's all and it was only 2 people me and a scout and the scout wasn;t even shooting at you he;d ran off te other way to chase after someone he knew to nova knife them
Stats eh .. LOL .. so .. not what happened in the past 2 matches we played against each other but what you did in the past v other people who were probably new players whilst you were in proto .. LMAO .. you don't even look behind you even whilst being shot at and you weren't even being scanned
PS This scrublet killed you 4 times in a STD suit whilst you were in proto .. I'd be a lot more concerned that your getting killed so often by undergeared scrublets than who has the better all time stats[/quote]
KDR of less than 1 detected
Winner EU Squad Cup
Go Go Power Rangers!
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2497
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:12:00 -
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Hate to break it to you but PC is a joke as well not some Mecca of competitive play
Guys I think my helmet is stuck.
Guys?
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
238
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:13:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:norttheantiv wrote:Yep, good to see you belittling the holocaust...
On another note, we are offering to help newer players for free, how is that a bad thing? How is it belittling the holocaust ? Remembering a Tragedy is how you make sure it doesn't happen again +1 because there is a serious danger of Babar's pubstomping turning into an actual holocaust. Spoiler: I didn't really give you +1. Hey how did you enjoy all those deaths in your proto gear yesterday ?? We were p1ssing ourselves laughing you .. who'd have thought 2 people in dampeners would render your entire squad useless .. 4 of you facing 1 way trying to kill 1 guy in a miltia fit whilst 2 guys in ADV killed all of you .. it was just LOL .. the funny thing was that it wasn;t just on that 1 occasion .. time and time again you were shot in the back and you siwtched into so many different suits it was funny .. didn;t you end up in a heavy suit and a light weapon ? xD I just noticed you edited your post to make it even better! I definitely didn't use a heavy with a light weapon yesterday or any other time recently, so I think you must be thinking of someone else. I still want to see your stats though sweety!
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
238
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:16:00 -
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norttheantiv wrote:
Hey how did you enjoy all those deaths in your proto gear yesterday ?? We were p1ssing ourselves laughing you .. who'd have thought 2 people in dampeners would render your entire squad useless .. 4 of you facing 1 way trying to kill 1 guy in a miltia fit whilst 2 guys in ADV killed all of you .. it was just LOL
I ran solo yesterday and most days, genius. I'm afraid I don't remember every scrublet that crosses my path, but it sounds like a major event for you and your boys, so congrats.
PS - Post on your main next time so I can laugh at your stats.[/quote]
I just happened to remember that you were in proto and were an easy kill that's all and it was only 2 people me and a scout and the scout wasn;t even shooting at you he;d ran off te other way to chase after someone he knew to nova knife them
Stats eh .. LOL .. so .. not what happened in the past 2 matches we played against each other but what you did in the past v other people who were probably new players whilst you were in proto .. LMAO .. you don't even look behind you even whilst being shot at and you weren't even being scanned
PS This scrublet killed you 4 times in a STD suit whilst you were in proto .. I'd be a lot more concerned that your getting killed so often by undergeared scrublets than who has the better all time stats[/quote]
KDR of less than 1 detected [/quote]
You need to work on your detection skills .. even this alt doesn't have a KD/R of less than 1 lol |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
685
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:18:00 -
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I have been away from the game for some time and can't say if what Kingbabar is typing on the forums is actually happening in the game. What I can say is that we cannont judge him because of protostomping, what we can judge him for is the fact that it took so long to get bored of it.
if Clint Beastwood and Dirty Harry 69 won't use the bolt pistol I will be sad.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1815
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:28:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I have been away from the game for some time and can't say if what Kingbabar is typing on the forums is actually happening in the game. What I can say is that we cannont judge him because of protostomping, what we can judge him for is the fact that it took so long to get bored of it.
Well up until now there has been plenty of PC to play smartypants.
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
686
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:33:00 -
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At least you don't stomp like duna corp. Those pricks spam tanks 24/7.
if Clint Beastwood and Dirty Harry 69 won't use the bolt pistol I will be sad.
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
239
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:42:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I have been away from the game for some time and can't say if what Kingbabar is typing on the forums is actually happening in the game. What I can say is that we cannont judge him because of protostomping, what we can judge him for is the fact that it took so long to get bored of it. Well up until now there has been plenty of PC to play smartypants.
So the only reason you now trying to do something about protostomping (even though your STILL going to protostomp) is because you don;t have as much access to PC ..
So you've had no problem ruining the NPE and other peoples fun in pubgames because you've been able to get you kicks in PC
I mean come on how douchey can you possibly be ?
It took your fun being affected in PC and being forced into pubgames only to realise how bad Protostomping pubgames is ... because the enemy who arent in proto give up and wont fight you
Facepalm
And you call people out for not 'trying' in pubgames .. honestly who can blame them
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1816
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:52:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:in Terms of training there is nothing you could offer a new player that someone who actually went through being protostomped could do better aside from maybe what the FoTM is or what glitches to use
There you lost all credibility in my eyes. I've never glitched and please tell me what sort of FOTM I've used? Do you see me running tanks now? Did you see me with a Flaylock? Did you ever see me in a LLAV?
You don't think I've faced way better players in much better gear? Really? Do you think that I've never been stomped, spawn camped, I remember the DS of doom days, the sniper heaven on some of the beta maps where u had headglitching impossible to reach snipers, I could go on.
For me it seems like you're one of the dudes that uses Proto in itself as a bit of a allround excuse. People get so proud after dropping someone in a protosuit with cheap gear, they don't even realize tht we're talking about 0.2 seconds of extra surviveability...
So you really believe that the way I perform is solely due to SP and equipment? Do you really think the big boys would hire me in PC after PC paying me solid good isk to ring for them time and time again if there weren't some skill involved?
I can teach players lots of stuff that scrubles like you can't. How to use nades properly, yeah please claim its easy as everybody does, still I very ofthen dodge 3 and get a OHK with the 1 I throw back. I can teach a lot about the use of cover and the importanse of rapid movement when its prudent. I can teach about squad synergy. I can teach about Skirmish tactics the list goes on and on. Do you really think I can't contribute after playing Dust on the highest level for a year?
I'm in awe of your ignorance and stupidity.
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1816
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:58:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:KingBabar wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I have been away from the game for some time and can't say if what Kingbabar is typing on the forums is actually happening in the game. What I can say is that we cannont judge him because of protostomping, what we can judge him for is the fact that it took so long to get bored of it. Well up until now there has been plenty of PC to play smartypants. So the only reason you now trying to do something about protostomping (even though your STILL going to protostomp) is because you don;t have as much access to PC .. So you've had no problem ruining the NPE and other peoples fun in pubgames because you've been able to get you kicks in PC I mean come on how douchey can you possibly be ? It took your fun being affected in PC and being forced into pubgames only to realise how bad Protostomping pubgames is ... because the enemy who arent in proto give up and wont fight you Facepalm And you call people out for not 'trying' in pubgames .. honestly who can blame them
The only people I've called out is the dudes thats been here since beta, get your facts straight. And I stay by it, when you've played this game for over a year, keeping an entire squad behind the redline because 3 of us is on the other side, shows a serious lack of charcter IMO.
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2084
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:09:00 -
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Hey I still <3 TRE!
Stahp hurting them before I....oh **** it's an alt...welp carry on then dunno why anyone even bothers responding.
CEO Fatal Absolution
B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
241
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:18:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:KingBabar wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I have been away from the game for some time and can't say if what Kingbabar is typing on the forums is actually happening in the game. What I can say is that we cannont judge him because of protostomping, what we can judge him for is the fact that it took so long to get bored of it. Well up until now there has been plenty of PC to play smartypants. So the only reason you now trying to do something about protostomping (even though your STILL going to protostomp) is because you don;t have as much access to PC .. So you've had no problem ruining the NPE and other peoples fun in pubgames because you've been able to get you kicks in PC I mean come on how douchey can you possibly be ? It took your fun being affected in PC and being forced into pubgames only to realise how bad Protostomping pubgames is ... because the enemy who arent in proto give up and wont fight you Facepalm And you call people out for not 'trying' in pubgames .. honestly who can blame them The only people I've called out is the dudes thats been here since beta, get your facts straight. And I stay by it, when you've played this game for over a year, keeping an entire squad behind the redline because 3 of us is on the other side, shows a serious lack of charcter IMO.
You might want to change your sig then seeing as most of the playerbase hasn't been playing for over a year |
Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
193
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:23:00 -
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Must be a lot of jews in this game. Explains all the isk posts lately.
Oh noes he mentioned something bad. I dont like it so remove it. He can say wat he wants.
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
720
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:26:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:If no one used proto in pub games the stomping would be less intense .. sure there would still be stomping but 6 guys in ADV/STD are alot easier to kill than 6 guys in proto stomping
True that 6 guys in ADV/STD gear are easier to kill but stomping would be relatively the same. It isn't just the gear that makes proto stomping what it is; it's the maxed out skills + the gear + coordination + **** poor matchmaking. So sure, 6 guys in ADV/STD are easier to kill than 6 protos; but 6 guys with proto & prof skills in ADV/STD gear and know what they are doing are a lot harder to kill than 16 guys that just got into ADV/STD and are running around like headless chickens.
Support Orbital Spawns
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Ryme Intrinseca
583
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:34:00 -
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norttheantiv wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:
Hey how did you enjoy all those deaths in your proto gear yesterday ?? We were p1ssing ourselves laughing you .. who'd have thought 2 people in dampeners would render your entire squad useless .. 4 of you facing 1 way trying to kill 1 guy in a miltia fit whilst 2 guys in ADV killed all of you .. it was just LOL
Ryme Intrinseca wrote:I ran solo yesterday and most days, genius. I'm afraid I don't remember every scrublet that crosses my path, but it sounds like a major event for you and your boys, so congrats.
PS - Post on your main next time so I can laugh at your stats. I just happened to remember that you were in proto and were an easy kill that's all and it was only 2 people me and a scout and the scout wasn;t even shooting at you he;d ran off te other way to chase after someone he knew to nova knife them Stats eh .. LOL .. so .. not what happened in the past 2 matches we played against each other but what you did in the past v other people who were probably new players whilst you were in proto .. LMAO .. you don't even look behind you even whilst being shot at and you weren't even being scanned PS This scrublet killed you 4 times in a STD suit whilst you were in proto .. I'd be a lot more concerned that your getting killed so often by undergeared scrublets than who has the better all time stats
KDR of less than 1 detected [/quote]
You need to work on your detection skills .. even this alt doesn't have a KD/R of less than 1 lol[/quote] Yes it does. Kills: 0. KDR: 0. WLR: 0. Still waiting to hear from your main, superstar. |
Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
245
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:34:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:in Terms of training there is nothing you could offer a new player that someone who actually went through being protostomped could do better aside from maybe what the FoTM is or what glitches to use There you lost all credibility in my eyes. I've never glitched and please tell me what sort of FOTM I've used? Do you see me running tanks now? Did you see me with a Flaylock? Did you ever see me in a LLAV? You don't think I've faced way better players in much better gear? Really? Do you think that I've never been stomped, spawn camped, I remember the DS of doom days, the sniper heaven on some of the beta maps where u had headglitching impossible to reach snipers, I could go on. For me it seems like you're one of the dudes that uses Proto in itself as a bit of a allround excuse. People get so proud after dropping someone in a protosuit with cheap gear, they don't even realize tht we're talking about 0.2 seconds of extra surviveability...So you really believe that the way I perform is solely due to SP and equipment? Do you really think the big boys would hire me in PC after PC paying me solid good isk to ring for them time and time again if there weren't some skill involved? I can teach players lots of stuff that scrubles like you can't. How to use nades properly, yeah please claim its easy as everybody does, still I very ofthen dodge 3 and get a OHK with the 1 I throw back. I can teach a lot about the use of cover and the importanse of rapid movement when its prudent. I can teach about squad synergy. I can teach about Skirmish tactics the list goes on and on. Do you really think I can't contribute after playing Dust on the highest level for a year?I'm in awe of your ignorance and stupidity.
Because a proto weapon 3 complex damage mods, proto sidearm, core locus grenade isn't an advantage v someone in a starter fit is it ? LMAO
Remind me what suit you use again .. logi isn't it .. do you have a repper and an injector and support heavy suits ? No ? Then your a slayer Logi which sadly is FoTM and has been for a while PS what weapon are you using right now ? CR/RR? didn't you use AR/SCR pre 1.7 too ?
Cover is an absolute basic, it doesn't take a genius to figure out using cover helps
Yes .. yes it is otherwise you wouldn't be so against using STD/ADV gear instead of proto in pubgames .. if you could do just as well in ST/ADV as you do in Prot then why would you use Proto ?
I should also say that .. I have proto ... I just don't use it in pubgames because of how awful this game was when I started this character and I know full well the harm it causes
Highest level .. broken PC or do you mean stomping new players in Pubgames ? Hard to differentiate between the 2 and the corps your helping .. aren't they the ones who;ve started locking all their districts so they don't have to worry about losing them ??
There is nothing you can teach new players that DUST Uni or the learning coalition can do better and quite frankly anyone who has even considered joining your little self gratification squad should seriously just learn from people actually trying to improve the game and NPE
Honestly I'd love to play you in STD gear with 15 randoms when I'm in 2 stacked protosquads and lets see how you do eh ? Let's see all this amazing talent you claim to have because as you said it isn;t the gear that helps you get the scores you do is it eh ? LMAO |
Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
245
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:37:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:norttheantiv wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:
Hey how did you enjoy all those deaths in your proto gear yesterday ?? We were p1ssing ourselves laughing you .. who'd have thought 2 people in dampeners would render your entire squad useless .. 4 of you facing 1 way trying to kill 1 guy in a miltia fit whilst 2 guys in ADV killed all of you .. it was just LOL
Ryme Intrinseca wrote:I ran solo yesterday and most days, genius. I'm afraid I don't remember every scrublet that crosses my path, but it sounds like a major event for you and your boys, so congrats.
PS - Post on your main next time so I can laugh at your stats. Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:I just happened to remember that you were in proto and were an easy kill that's all and it was only 2 people me and a scout and the scout wasn;t even shooting at you he;d ran off te other way to chase after someone he knew to nova knife them
Stats eh .. LOL .. so .. not what happened in the past 2 matches we played against each other but what you did in the past v other people who were probably new players whilst you were in proto .. LMAO .. you don't even look behind you even whilst being shot at and you weren't even being scanned
PS This scrublet killed you 4 times in a STD suit whilst you were in proto .. I'd be a lot more concerned that your getting killed so often by undergeared scrublets than who has the better all time stats KDR of less than 1 detected You need to work on your detection skills .. even this alt doesn't have a KD/R of less than 1 lol Yes it does. Kills: 0. KDR: 0. WLR: 0. Still waiting to hear from your main, superstar.[/quote]
<--- on the forums .. thought that'd be obvious
<--- uses the HDTV and HDMI cable for both the PS3 and Laptop so I can't be on both at the same time but I'll be on later kiddo don;t you worry about that |
JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
73
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:48:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I too feel it is entirely appropriate to compare KingBabar to ****** and his actions to the Holocaust.
-5000000000000000000000000000000. fixed just kiding except realy bringing up the holocaust is unnecessary , and you should be ashamed for comparing the two.
Caldari Loyalist
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
246
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:52:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:If no one used proto in pub games the stomping would be less intense .. sure there would still be stomping but 6 guys in ADV/STD are alot easier to kill than 6 guys in proto stomping
True that 6 guys in ADV/STD gear are easier to kill but stomping would be relatively the same. It isn't just the gear that makes proto stomping what it is; it's the maxed out skills + the gear + coordination + **** poor matchmaking. So sure, 6 guys in ADV/STD are easier to kill than 6 protos; but 6 guys with proto & prof skills in ADV/STD gear and know what they are doing are a lot harder to kill than 16 guys that just got into ADV/STD and are running around like headless chickens.
Which is the reason I do not understand why they still use proto gear ... and surely it can't be that big of an ask to at least give new players some sort of a chance to have fun
I did say to Babar that they'd likely still stomp but it would be less intense and less likely to end up with new players leaving the game completely |
KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1817
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:57:00 -
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So I need an injector and a repper and be a chubby chaser to be a logi? LOL thats just so 2013. I sometimes carry a needle, I mostly stick with uplinks, scanners and rep hives. (I'm shield tank so they don't do me much good) But you can ask the fattys in my corp if they are used to me dropping a rep hive for them. Using a rep tool is ok, I prefer to use my gun and drop rephives, this way I can slay and support at the same time. So me being and plaiying as a logi for a year is considered FOTM? Shouldn't that be FOTY?
Well I don't use damage mods except for the occational times I go assault sniping. Yes if you take the very best fits of the game and compare it to starter fits off course there is a difference. For me its natural to compare enhanced to proto, It took me what? 2 weeks to get a decent enhanced fit up and running.
"On the highest level", by that I mean I've played for and against almost all the corps in Dust. I've played alongside the very best players in this game without making a fool of myself, well mostly.
Please elaborate on why Dust uni can do a better job than me in teaching new players? Just because you state it doesn't make it so.
Facing of a stacked team isn't easy for anyone regardless of gear. First off, why would I play solo? If I were new to the game and had less fancy toys than the rest the first thing I would do is to find some decent people to squad up with. That people are stupid enough to run solo and then complain about losing is entirely their own fault.
I did do a 10 games in a row test (I do this from time to time) in a 35K suit alone in domination. Worst game was 13-5 best game was 40-4. I might just have been lucky. I did come up against some stacked teams, they were good enough to win and redline us but not good enough to completely stomp me personally.
I seriousl don't think I'd do very well as a new player coming in right from the academy. I do believe I would've had a positive KDR, there are just so many crappy players in this game regardless of skill and gear, in any case I'd keep fighting and pushing all I could, I've always been like that.
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
250
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:45:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:So I need an injector and a repper and be a chubby chaser to be a logi? LOL thats just so 2013. I sometimes carry a needle, I mostly stick with uplinks, scanners and rep hives. (I'm shield tank so they don't do me much good) But you can ask the fattys in my corp if they are used to me dropping a rep hive for them. Using a rep tool is ok, I prefer to use my gun and drop rephives, this way I can slay and support at the same time. So me being and plaiying as a logi for a year is considered FOTM? Shouldn't that be FOTY?
Well I don't use damage mods except for the occational times I go assault sniping. Yes if you take the very best fits of the game and compare it to starter fits off course there is a difference. For me its natural to compare enhanced to proto, It took me what? 2 weeks to get a decent enhanced fit up and running.
"On the highest level", by that I mean I've played for and against almost all the corps in Dust. I've played alongside the very best players in this game without making a fool of myself, well mostly.
Please elaborate on why Dust uni can do a better job than me in teaching new players? Just because you state it doesn't make it so.
Facing of a stacked team isn't easy for anyone regardless of gear. First off, why would I play solo? If I were new to the game and had less fancy toys than the rest the first thing I would do is to find some decent people to squad up with. That people are stupid enough to run solo and then complain about losing is entirely their own fault.
I did do a 10 games in a row test (I do this from time to time) in a 35K suit alone in domination. Worst game was 13-5 best game was 40-4. I might just have been lucky. I did come up against some stacked teams, they were good enough to win and redline us but not good enough to completely stomp me personally.
I seriousl don't think I'd do very well as a new player coming in right from the academy. I do believe I would've had a positive KDR, there are just so many crappy players in this game regardless of skill and gear, in any case I'd keep fighting and pushing all I could, I've always been like that.
Just because you state that it isn't doesn't make it not so and as I explained earlier the reason is simple .. you have no idea of what there situation is afterall you do just tell people to 'get good' .. look at your sig lol
I said solo because you claimed to be some kind of DUST god so I gave you a scenario with which to actively test how good you actually are .. not how good your squad is .. or how much SP you have ... how good you personally are and tbh playing solo in a std fit on a 500k sp alt v 2 stacked protosquads with 15 random starter corp players on your team really would be a test of your own skill ...
You have to add in passive skills to its efficiency too .. this is why I keep telling you to give proto gear a rest in pubgames and just use ADV ... you don't need proto to do well ... on my ADV suit i have 413 shields 138 armor but use 2 basic profile dampeners and an ADV weapon a STD sidearm and a STD grenade (I don't have electronics and engineering to 5 only 4 atm)
Which is exactly what I did .. this character is 6 months old, well my current main is but that's because my 1 year old character from BETA was a heavy and when we got a respec I stupidly put the SP into sniping and realised .. nah it's sucky so made a new character as a LogiAssault and this is exactly why that since I got back to proto I will not use it in pubgames I had to start again and instead of having similair SP levels to everyone I was 6 months behind and even 6 months ago it was fairly bad and it's got even worse over the past 6 months
TL:DR I know I'm being extremely difficult and possibly abusive but that's because I know I'd be exactly the same as you are now if I hadn't started again and the only reason I see how bad protostomping pubgames is, was because I went through it .. even with all that experience under my belt It was still murder
Honestly if you made an Alt today and played it solely for 6 months you would completely understand where I'm coming from .. using ADV gear on a 20m + SP character squadding with guys in proto isn't the same as having 3M sp squadding with other guys with 3M SP .. even with tactics and knowing the maps inside and out when you up against people with the same level of experience but that massively outgear and out SP you there is NOTHING you can do but either die alot and let them pad their stats or give up and stay in the redline ... I took the 1st option and ended up quitting the game which is why I adamantly suggest new players go for option 2 .. just so they at least stay and play the game long enough to get to a level where they stand a chance
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1009
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Posted - 2014.02.06 23:36:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:No one fighting his corp eg continually running into them to be insta killed in starter fits by them in full proto and attempting to improve his and his corps rep
Hate to break this to you but 6 months of protostomping new players can't be overlooked and you can only blame yourselves if people aren't wasting their time fighting you
Why you ask .. it's simple
Public Matches are ... MEANINGLESS ... why would anyone continually throw themselves infront of a lion to get torn apart with nothing on the line ???
If you want challenging fights in your proto gear .. go do PC ...
Newer players should stick with corps like the Learning Coalition or Dust Uni as they will actually be trained properly and I would actively suggest newer/inexperienced players avoid squadding with you at all costs .. why would you squad with the very people to blame for a poor NPE ???
If no one used proto in pub games the stomping would be less intense .. sure there would still be stomping but 6 guys in ADV/STD are alot easier to kill than 6 guys in proto stomping
So please for the love of god stop with the 'I want to help the community' nonsense .. if your still using proto in pub games your just continually adding to the problem
At least have the decency to acknowledge the harm your doing to the game .. NS at least admit that they don't care about anything other than stomping and if it kills off potential new players then .. so what .. my stats are being padded
EDIT Seeing as everyone only focuses on being offended by an analogy I;ll remove it and see if anyone actually posts a response that Isn't OH NOOOEESS IM OFFENDED
So you create a thread commenting an another thread, but you ignore all the counters to claims which you repeat here, or post things that haven't reached a common understanding as a fact?
Well that's real nice of you.
-1.
Masochism L5.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1009
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Posted - 2014.02.06 23:39:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:norttheantiv wrote:Yep, good to see you belittling the holocaust...
On another note, we are offering to help newer players for free, how is that a bad thing? Yea, let's drop that part about the Holocaust. This is a game, and that was a travesty. On what he's offering, I have no opinion and no cares or worries, just don't like people who compare a tragedy with... Well, something as childish as a game.
Not gonna say that post #2 isn't a poor one but,
to all getting flipped by the H thing:
There is a difference between a holocaust and the Holocaust. Please don't take the discussion into the latter.
Masochism L5.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1009
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Posted - 2014.02.06 23:48:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:KingBabar wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:in Terms of training there is nothing you could offer a new player that someone who actually went through being protostomped could do better aside from maybe what the FoTM is or what glitches to use There you lost all credibility in my eyes. I've never glitched and please tell me what sort of FOTM I've used? Do you see me running tanks now? Did you see me with a Flaylock? Did you ever see me in a LLAV? You don't think I've faced way better players in much better gear? Really? Do you think that I've never been stomped, spawn camped, I remember the DS of doom days, the sniper heaven on some of the beta maps where u had headglitching impossible to reach snipers, I could go on. For me it seems like you're one of the dudes that uses Proto in itself as a bit of a allround excuse. People get so proud after dropping someone in a protosuit with cheap gear, they don't even realize tht we're talking about 0.2 seconds of extra surviveability...So you really believe that the way I perform is solely due to SP and equipment? Do you really think the big boys would hire me in PC after PC paying me solid good isk to ring for them time and time again if there weren't some skill involved? I can teach players lots of stuff that scrubles like you can't. How to use nades properly, yeah please claim its easy as everybody does, still I very ofthen dodge 3 and get a OHK with the 1 I throw back. I can teach a lot about the use of cover and the importanse of rapid movement when its prudent. I can teach about squad synergy. I can teach about Skirmish tactics the list goes on and on. Do you really think I can't contribute after playing Dust on the highest level for a year?I'm in awe of your ignorance and stupidity. Because a proto weapon 3 complex damage mods, proto sidearm, core locus grenade isn't an advantage v someone in a starter fit is it ? LMAO Remind me what suit you use again .. logi isn't it .. do you have a repper and an injector and support heavy suits ? No ? Then your a slayer Logi which sadly is FoTM and has been for a while PS what weapon are you using right now ? CR/RR? didn't you use AR/SCR pre 1.7 too ? Cover is an absolute basic, it doesn't take a genius to figure out using cover helps Yes .. yes it is otherwise you wouldn't be so against using STD/ADV gear instead of proto in pubgames .. if you could do just as well in ST/ADV as you do in Prot then why would you use Proto ? I should also say that .. I have proto ... I just don't use it in pubgames because of how awful this game was when I started this character and I know full well the harm it causes Highest level .. broken PC or do you mean stomping new players in Pubgames ? Hard to differentiate between the 2 and the corps your helping .. aren't they the ones who;ve started locking all their districts so they don't have to worry about losing them ?? There is nothing you can teach new players that DUST Uni or the learning coalition can do better and quite frankly anyone who has even considered joining your little self gratification squad should seriously just learn from people actually trying to improve the game and NPE Honestly I'd love to play you in STD gear with 15 randoms when I'm in 2 stacked protosquads and lets see how you do eh ? Let's see all this amazing talent you claim to have because as you said it isn;t the gear that helps you get the scores you do is it eh ? LMAO
Of course PRO setup has HUGE edge over start fit. But you're mixing two things into one there:
Vanilla start fit is WAY inferior to a STD or even MLT fit that has been modified well, fitting skill is an important part of dust. Differences in fitting create a legitimate difference in usability and power.
Those default fits are really, really bad. If a junior player hasn't tuned them the way it can be done with 500k SP he is genuinely screwed over. That is also one of the biggest challenge in dust new player experience to overcome.
Masochism L5.
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2014.02.07 00:04:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:No one fighting his corp eg continually running into them to be insta killed in starter fits by them in full proto and attempting to improve his and his corps rep
Hate to break this to you but 6 months of protostomping new players can't be overlooked and you can only blame yourselves if people aren't wasting their time fighting you
Why you ask .. it's simple
Public Matches are ... MEANINGLESS ... why would anyone continually throw themselves infront of a lion to get torn apart with nothing on the line ???
If you want challenging fights in your proto gear .. go do PC ...
Newer players should stick with corps like the Learning Coalition or Dust Uni as they will actually be trained properly and I would actively suggest newer/inexperienced players avoid squadding with you at all costs .. why would you squad with the very people to blame for a poor NPE ???
If no one used proto in pub games the stomping would be less intense .. sure there would still be stomping but 6 guys in ADV/STD are alot easier to kill than 6 guys in proto stomping
So please for the love of god stop with the 'I want to help the community' nonsense .. if your still using proto in pub games your just continually adding to the problem
At least have the decency to acknowledge the harm your doing to the game .. NS at least admit that they don't care about anything other than stomping and if it kills off potential new players then .. so what .. my stats are being padded
EDIT Seeing as everyone only focuses on being offended by an analogy I;ll remove it and see if anyone actually posts a response that Isn't OH NOOOEESS IM OFFENDED So you create a thread commenting an another thread, but you ignore all the counters to claims which you repeat here, or post things that haven't reached a common understanding as a fact? Well that's real nice of you. -1.
Using Protogear in a squad stomping new players isn't exactly nice either so why would I be nice to people who aren't nice to others in the 1st place ?
What counters btw ? You mean the false justifications for the stomping ? I've already dealt with them
It's Impossible to reach an understanding when 1 half of the people don't understand why it's a problem in the 1st place and your free to reaffirm these 'counters' here because I have still yet to see 1
Here's an overiding example of the problem
Matchmaking doesn't work due to a lack of players for the system to work properley
Why is there a lack of players ? This is due to protostomping
Why is there protostomping ? Because matchmaking doesn't work
Why doesn't matchmaking work ? There is a lack of players
It's a catch 22 situation and honestly the only way this can be fixed is if either the protostompers are segregated away from the rest of the playerbase whether it be SP based matchmaking or Gear restricted gamemodes ... but due to a lack of players this isn't feasible right now
If you stopped protostomping in pubgames the player base would increase and then CCP would actually be able to start implementing the real matchmaking system and possibly the other ideas to which would completely deal with the problem
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Meeko Fent
State Patriots
1739
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Posted - 2014.02.07 00:08:00 -
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norttheantiv wrote:Yep, good to see you belittling the holocaust...
On another note, we are offering to help newer players for free, how is that a bad thing? Well, this Godwin'd really fast.
DUST is a half decent game.
Be happy its free.
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2014.02.07 00:12:00 -
[59] - Quote
http://dustsearch.com/thread/140653
I'll leave this here for all those curious as to what was edited out, the only reason you did edit it out was because you yourself found it a bit too excessive to compare Protostomping to Genocide
Zatara scammed me out of all my ISK. He is too mean. Please someone feel sorry for me and send me ISK.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3046
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Posted - 2014.02.07 00:12:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I too feel it is entirely appropriate to compare KingBabar to ****** and his actions to the Holocaust.
-500. Why ?
#facepalm
No.
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