DUST Search - Squaring the Circle: A Manifesto on DUST 514s possible future

Ivan Avogadro wrote:

I'm not really responding to anyone in particular, just putting my thoughts in the ether. I know people here turn to Planetside a lot, but it really is the closest thing that exists to DUST. Not just in Space Marine theme, but also in MMO-FPS genre.

Planetside 1 was an awesome game. I never played PS2, but I was a PS1 vet. What the game had was a sense of agency and a sense of urgency. When I logged in, I could choose which planets I wanted to visit, in what order, and I flew myself there. I could go where the big battle was currently waging, or I could sneak behind enemy lines on their abandoned and silent frontier. Once I got where I was going, I could engage on head on with a rifle. I could transport troops in vehicles. I could get in jet dogfights. I could put on a mech suit and wreak havoc or I could put on a stealth suit and wreak mischief. These are things DUST doesn't have. Regardless of the EVE connection, even the DUST battles as they exist in their own game lack any kind of grandeur.

The maps in DUST, while big, don't encourage engagement lines far away from the objective points. And the game simply doesn't reward alternative strategies. Once you are in a match, you are there to stay come hell or high water. You can't just abandon a fight you are losing to march west and hit the district next door instead. Enemies won't have their attention drawn away by a new force "off in the distance". Nobody is going to roll in 10 minutes late, with 100 new clones, to reinvigorate a floundering team. Likewise, nobody can hack that carrier with 100 new clones and steal them for the other side, since it doesn't even exist.

I realize that large battles like this are limited by the PS3 hardware, but these are the types of things I want to see. Individual battles that last for hours, and by the end one force owns an entire moon because of it.


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Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 645	Posted - 2014.02.06 07:04:00 - [1] - Quote This thread is pretty much jam-packed with absolute win. Everything is so on-point and true I don't even know how to make a comment that could add to what has been said. Tankers are being diagnosed with a new disease; Cancer of the Assault Dropship. Many of them don't survive.
Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 649	Posted - 2014.02.06 22:56:00 - [2] - Quote Ivan Avogadro wrote: I'm not really responding to anyone in particular, just putting my thoughts in the ether. I know people here turn to Planetside a lot, but it really is the closest thing that exists to DUST. Not just in Space Marine theme, but also in MMO-FPS genre. Planetside 1 was an awesome game. I never played PS2, but I was a PS1 vet. What the game had was a sense of agency and a sense of urgency. When I logged in, I could choose which planets I wanted to visit, in what order, and I flew myself there. I could go where the big battle was currently waging, or I could sneak behind enemy lines on their abandoned and silent frontier. Once I got where I was going, I could engage on head on with a rifle. I could transport troops in vehicles. I could get in jet dogfights. I could put on a mech suit and wreak havoc or I could put on a stealth suit and wreak mischief. These are things DUST doesn't have. Regardless of the EVE connection, even the DUST battles as they exist in their own game lack any kind of grandeur. The maps in DUST, while big, don't encourage engagement lines far away from the objective points. And the game simply doesn't reward alternative strategies. Once you are in a match, you are there to stay come hell or high water. You can't just abandon a fight you are losing to march west and hit the district next door instead. Enemies won't have their attention drawn away by a new force "off in the distance". Nobody is going to roll in 10 minutes late, with 100 new clones, to reinvigorate a floundering team. Likewise, nobody can hack that carrier with 100 new clones and steal them for the other side, since it doesn't even exist. I realize that large battles like this are limited by the PS3 hardware, but these are the types of things I want to see. Individual battles that last for hours, and by the end one force owns an entire moon because of it. Another great reply made on this topic. Devs, you better be reading! But probably not.. Tankers are being diagnosed with a new disease; Cancer of the Assault Dropship. Many of them don't survive.
Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 658	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:06:00 - [3] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: Great thread and discussion. Just yesterday, I filled out the latest survey which CCP inviting me to take part in via e-mail. I couldn't emphasize enough the need to have clear and consise communication regarding any and all future plans for DUST 514. "Currently no plans to..." and "SoonGäó" just don't cut it! Survey link - http://ccp.questionpro.com Survey Structure - Section A = CCP / Section B = EVE / Section C = DUST Questions? Contact the Research Team - [email protected] EDIT: Make sure all your corpmates take the survey, especially those who don't use the forums! I just filled out the entire survey, I'm glad they have something like this that can allow my message to hopefully come across to CCP, and I also referenced this topic in a few comments just so there's more of a chance the higher-up devs (in Iceland) will see what we have said here. Tankers are being diagnosed with a new disease; Cancer of the Assault Dropship. Many of them don't survive.