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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:39:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:im a heavy and i ******* hate heavies who run light weapons... please just remove the ability ccp or make heavies less efficient with light weaponry
Gimme some good heavy weapons and I'll stop.
Of course, if you do that, the assaults will have a whole new excuse to complain.
Starting to see a pattern?
No.
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Vin Mora
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
276
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:39:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Meee One wrote:Why,you may ask.
Assaults is my response.
Because of assaults constant nagging of CCP about 'slayer logis' ALL logis are getting nerfed.
And now the new assault nag subject is "heavies with light weapons out killing them".
So unless you want to get nerfed so you should start fighting back.
I personally don't want Assault514...but that looks like the direction we're headed in. Why? Logi's don't need more slots that assaults to play their intended role? All you need a skills that boost your equipment use. You are not combat units. In fact the logi suit could loose its grenade slot. Logisitcs don't need them at all.
Yes we do, I'm usually the only one in my squad running AV grenades.
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jamstar saa187
the third day
70
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:49:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:im a heavy and i ******* hate heavies who run light weapons... please just remove the ability ccp or make heavies less efficient with light weaponry
this surely has to be a fukcing wind-up! THIS is why many dont use or place any credence in the forums and the 'general discussions' therein.
how could a Heavy be advocating that we be restricted to only 2 weapons, and be at the mercy of scouts, assaults and logis who have access to almost 10? these being:
Laser Rifle
Scrambler Rifle
Assault Rifle
Combat Rifle
Rail Rifle
Shot Gun
Plasma Cannon
Mass Driver
Sniper Rifle
Remote Explosives (equipment)
i call BS on this guy being a heavy. either that or he's living up to expectations of the dearth of common sense on the forum. anybody asking for this needs their head examining.
having a suit use an OP weapon does not make the suit OP, just the weapon, so stop comparing suits to weapons! suits should be balanced against other suits, and weapons compared to weapons. and with that in mind i'd rather CCP allow all classes use all weapons, i'd just $hi!t my pants laughing at an medium or light suit being 'stuck in the mud' trying to move with a Heavy weapon, 'cause as you know, its meant to be wielded by a tougher suit.
the Heavy suits disadvantages have been mentioned may times on here, people need to stop acting like they dont exist. just because they dont affect the performance of a weapon does not make them any less of an impediment to the user. That is unless you think having a large, slow moving target, that has no ability to drop equipment, and cannot access parts of the terrain as freely as the other suits, is not really an impediment. (if yes, see sentence 2 of paragraph 3 above) |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
4386
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:53:00 -
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Heavy with thales isn't uncommon, honestly I'd say remove it, want light weapons use a commando.
Now they're more needed as a class as a side effect.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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jamstar saa187
the third day
70
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:08:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Heavy with thales isn't uncommon, honestly I'd say remove it, want light weapons use a commando.
Now they're more needed as a class as a side effect.
is the problem that the heavy has a Thales, or that most likely he's in the red line, so nobody could possibly go and take him out?
ie. how many times do you actually find that the guy killing you with the Thales is actually in the mix and not within the red line? |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
195
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Meee One wrote:Why,you may ask.
Assaults is my response.
Because of assaults constant nagging of CCP about 'slayer logis' ALL logis are getting nerfed.
And now the new assault nag subject is "heavies with light weapons out killing them".
So unless you want to get nerfed so you should start fighting back.
I personally don't want Assault514...but that looks like the direction we're headed in. Why? Logi's don't need more slots that assaults to play their intended role? All you need a skills that boost your equipment use. You are not combat units. In fact the logi suit could loose its grenade slot. Logisitcs don't need them at all.
Take away the grenade slot and give me 4 equipment slots on every level of logi suit and I'm game.
"...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
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SteelheadPep
SAM-MIK
33
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Posted - 2014.02.05 19:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Meee One wrote:Why,you may ask.
Assaults is my response.
Because of assaults constant nagging of CCP about 'slayer logis' ALL logis are getting nerfed.
And now the new assault nag subject is "heavies with light weapons out killing them".
So unless you want to get nerfed so you should start fighting back.
I personally don't want Assault514...but that looks like the direction we're headed in. Why? Logi's don't need more slots that assaults to play their intended role? All you need a skills that boost your equipment use. You are not combat units. In fact the logi suit could loose its grenade slot. Logisitcs don't need them at all.
Relax you have completed your quest to get rid of all logis. The slayers will move on, those of us who are support logis shall endure. Go ahead take our weapons, grenades, CPU, PG, Slots etc. we will still try and help our sqaud/ team. Those of you who are heavies, be nice to a support logi we are going to become very scarce. Always looking for mercs who want some logi lovin, see you on the field. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1557
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Posted - 2014.02.05 19:44:00 -
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I don't like heavies with light weapons, but there are only 2 heavy weapons, i understand the pain.
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
427
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:10:00 -
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Once again, it has anything to do with heavies fielding light weapons. I believe as big slow beasts, they should get to carry what they want.
It has more to do with light weapons (rifles in general) outclassing virtually anything else this game was meant to offer as balance.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1596
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:13:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:im a heavy and i ******* hate heavies who run light weapons... please just remove the ability ccp or make heavies less efficient with light weaponry
Stop it, telling anyone how to fit their suit or play the game is bad business and should be rejected every time. A sentinel with a LR is too fun. Especially at long ranges.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1596
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:21:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Meee One wrote:Why,you may ask.
Assaults is my response.
Because of assaults constant nagging of CCP about 'slayer logis' ALL logis are getting nerfed.
And now the new assault nag subject is "heavies with light weapons out killing them".
So unless you want to get nerfed so you should start fighting back.
I personally don't want Assault514...but that looks like the direction we're headed in. Why? Logi's don't need more slots that assaults to play their intended role? All you need a skills that boost your equipment use. You are not combat units. In fact the logi suit could loose its grenade slot. Logisitcs don't need them at all.
I agree that skill based equipment bonuses are the way to go and I also agree that a logi suit doesn't always need more slots than an assault from the same tier but I do disagree with the grenade thing. I use my grenades all the time, they are usually flux but I still use them. Equipment destruction is one thing I try to focus on as a logi. I support my team by providing logistical support, cover fire and equipment destruction and a set of flux nades are needed. I can Handel a few logi suits not having a nade slot but not all of them. The grenade slot is a slot that can be used to make the suits different.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1468
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:23:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Why,you may ask.
Assaults is my response.
Because of assaults constant nagging of CCP about 'slayer logis' ALL logis are getting nerfed.
And now the new assault nag subject is "heavies with light weapons out killing them".
So unless you want to get nerfed so you should start fighting back.
I personally don't want Assault514...but that looks like the direction we're headed in.
heavies should be able to run light weapons. Why?
because ALL light weapons can out range, and out DPS the HMG... the only anti-personel heavy weapon in the game.
******* assaults can't keep nerfing heavy weapons and equipemtn and then expect heavies not to use light weapons.
on top of that heavy suits are good at defending. So, why should the offense dictate where the defense can defend.
assault suits are great at assaulting and defending and other tasks... heavy suits only defend. so taking that away is gay. but you know what? fine. if CCP wants to nerf heavy suits, just remove them from the game and giveme back my SP for all the frguns and HMGs stats I have. remove it entirely please and give me my SP back. because, when I run my fully decked out assault suit with AR and ******* pwn i dnt want to hear people bitching and moaning.
seriously CCP should just make a game mode where only assault suits can join. then, everyone else who wants ot play the game can play the other mdes.
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cedz636
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:27:00 -
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Wow...there's a form of government that limits and regulates the usage of property like this (and it ain't democracy!!!).
Suck it up, and find cover. Outsmart your light-equipped heavy adversary with clever use of tactics and cover, and stop blaming the suit / weapon stats. Geez. An assault can out-strafe a heavy any day. Sooooo what was this thread about again?
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1468
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:27:00 -
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lets put it this way. many heavies have been waiting 6months to a year waiting for balance to the heavy suit, racial heavy suits, and racial heavy weapons. 1.8 was delayed so as to make sure the heavy suits are released in a balanced form like the CR and RR (just needs a hip fire nerf for the Rails. damage mods are what makes weapons OP).
If the heavies are nerfed I can imagine 90% of heavies including myself abaonding dust and leavin it forever. The player base will grow so thin that people wont even be able to get a match. heavies comprise at least 25% of the player base.
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1546
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:51:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:If the heavies are nerfed I can imagine 90% of heavies including myself abaonding dust and leavin it forever. The player base will grow so thin that people wont even be able to get a match. heavies comprise at least 25% of the player base.
I think we're quite a bit smaller than that, to be honest. If it were true, you'd see 6-10 heavies per match. I see 1-4, max.
Any hypothetical nerf wouldn't make Heavies worse-off than they are nowGǪit'd just probably have to do with changing the upcoming Sentinel bonuses to something non-HP related.
Anyway. I don't see CCP doing a single thing until well after 1.8. I just hope we don't see a flood of RR Sentinel scrubs after the new content drops.
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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