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Quil Evrything wrote:

NK Scout wrote:

Quil Evrything wrote:

if you're paying attention to what they're doing, rather than just the tip of your own weapon, then you can SEE them throwing down a remote.
Which means you have time to get out of the blast radius.

if you dont, but instead choose to keep on firing your weapon, then it's your own fault.

...

They get thrown far, I can see them, no matter what I do sometimes I cant avoid it, its like a contact grenade, good distance then boom

and ya know what? it happens.
There are multiple types of situation in DUST where death is unavoidable.
Also, contact grenades exist (Fused grenades). So... you dont really have grounds for complaint.
Particularly since if they use it up close like that.... THEY have to get away too.
They cant just drop it and blow it immediately, if they want to live. the blast will kill the detonator, just like a grenade can.

Also.. the "detonate on death" thing? there's usually a lag of somewhere between .5 to 1.0 seconds, before the detonation can happen.
So let's recap:

Approximately 1 second of throw time, plus 2 second 'arm' time, and around 1 second deathswitch delay time.

4 seconds is a long time in DUST. You have no excuse for not getting out of the way, other than
"I didnt see it coming".
It only takes 1 second to sprint out of the 5m blast radius.

What are you going to complain about next? people headshotting you from behind?

"But... but.. I didnt see it coming! no fair!"

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Sam Booty Valor Coalition 20	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:03:00 - [31] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school? Re read the op They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after Or they simply kill you before you kill them I'd love to see it go away Or... learn from them and get RE. Stop complaining. They should make RE explode holes in walls.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 894	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:04:00 - [32] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school? Re read the op They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after Or they simply kill you before you kill them I'd love to see it go away You're not "paying attention", like an earlier poster says. if you're paying attention to what they're doing, rather than just the tip of your own weapon, then you can SEE them throwing down a remote. Which means you have time to get out of the blast radius. if you dont, but instead choose to keep on firing your weapon, then it's your own fault. btw, for the record, I do it in low hp suits (scout, zero armor+shield modules), so I dont get why you complain about them doing it in high hp suits. The end result is the same
Damian Crisis Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 11	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:04:00 - [33] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: NK Scout wrote: Im tired of losing 95k suits to some no skill kid who uses them like contact grenades, Irony police says, "if you keep losing suits to them so often, they're not the only ones with no skill" THIS! Popularity is not an attribute of a Scout, unless it's the afterlife.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 240	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:04:00 - [34] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: I've got nothing but admiration for RE players who can kill this way. OP? Try it some time, I don't see everyone doing it, because it is a lot harder than going pew pew. Not when they instantly spawn in with high hp, throw a remote and detonate without taking much damge Or you kill them and they exploit a glitch and kill you 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 629	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:05:00 - [35] - Quote Remotes need a buff if anything. Orbitals need to be awarded based on something other than war point accrual. Best PVE idea I've seen.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 240	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:06:00 - [36] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: NK Scout wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school? Re read the op They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after Or they simply kill you before you kill them I'd love to see it go away You're not "paying attention", like an earlier poster says. if you're paying attention to what they're doing, rather than just the tip of your own weapon, then you can SEE them throwing down a remote. Which means you have time to get out of the blast radius. if you dont, but instead choose to keep on firing your weapon, then it's your own fault. btw, for the record, I do it in low hp suits (scout, zero armor+shield modules), so I dont get why you complain about them doing it in high hp suits. The end result is the same They get thrown far, I can see them, no matter what I do sometimes I cant avoid it, its like a contact grenade, good distance then boom 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 240	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:06:00 - [37] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Remotes need a buff if anything. Orbitals need to be awarded based on something other than war point accrual. I mean a nerf to infantry killing, they should be for traps not a kinda contact grenade But for vehicles they do need a buff 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 148	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:07:00 - [38] - Quote I've never seen a heavy do it and all I can see are disadvantages to using a heavy suit.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 240	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:07:00 - [39] - Quote Sam Booty wrote: NK Scout wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school? Re read the op They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after Or they simply kill you before you kill them I'd love to see it go away Or... learn from them and get RE. Stop complaining. They should make RE explode holes in walls. Enrish preashe 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 240	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:08:00 - [40] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: I've never seen a heavy do it and all I can see are disadvantages to using a heavy suit. I mean a med frame, with lots of hp insta killing 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race

T'orq DUST University Ivy League 203	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:10:00 - [41] - Quote I am one of hose people, but I do it in the starter fits. I agree that the post death explosion needs fixed ( not that I am not having fun with it ), but Nerf them? No. Take OB's out of the game? No. Thanjac- Proud Commando Member
Damian Crisis Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 11	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:10:00 - [42] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Remotes need a buff if anything. Orbitals need to be awarded based on something other than war point accrual. I mean a nerf to infantry killing, they should be for traps not a kinda contact grenade But for vehicles they do need a buff It makes no sense that something that can BLOW a TANK to nothing can barely do anything to a lesser INFANTRY.... I think this thread needs to get nerfed. Popularity is not an attribute of a Scout, unless it's the afterlife.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 284	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:10:00 - [43] - Quote LOL And some more LOL War never changes
Sam Booty Valor Coalition 20	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:12:00 - [44] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Sam Booty wrote: NK Scout wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school? Re read the op They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after Or they simply kill you before you kill them I'd love to see it go away Or... learn from them and get RE. Stop complaining. They should make RE explode holes in walls. Enrish preashe Uzee dee RE 2 killee, mui bueno.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 241	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:14:00 - [45] - Quote Sam Booty wrote: NK Scout wrote: Sam Booty wrote: NK Scout wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school? Re read the op They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after Or they simply kill you before you kill them I'd love to see it go away Or... learn from them and get RE. Stop complaining. They should make RE explode holes in walls. Enrish preashe Uzee dee RE 2 killee, mui bueno. Im not speced into explosives 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 897	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:15:00 - [46] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: if you're paying attention to what they're doing, rather than just the tip of your own weapon, then you can SEE them throwing down a remote. Which means you have time to get out of the blast radius. if you dont, but instead choose to keep on firing your weapon, then it's your own fault. ... They get thrown far, I can see them, no matter what I do sometimes I cant avoid it, its like a contact grenade, good distance then boom and ya know what? it happens. There are multiple types of situation in DUST where death is unavoidable. Also, contact grenades exist (Fused grenades). So... you dont really have grounds for complaint. Particularly since if they use it up close like that.... THEY have to get away too. They cant just drop it and blow it immediately, if they want to live. the blast will kill the detonator, just like a grenade can. Also.. the "detonate on death" thing? there's usually a lag of somewhere between .5 to 1.0 seconds, before the detonation can happen. So let's recap: Approximately 1 second of throw time, plus 2 second 'arm' time, and around 1 second deathswitch delay time. 4 seconds is a long time in DUST. You have no excuse for not getting out of the way, other than "I didnt see it coming". It only takes 1 second to sprint out of the 5m blast radius. What are you going to complain about next? people headshotting you from behind? "But... but.. I didnt see it coming! no fair!"
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 241	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:15:00 - [47] - Quote T'orq wrote: I am one of hose people, but I do it in the starter fits. I agree that the post death explosion needs fixed ( not that I am not having fun with it ), but Nerf them? No. Take OB's out of the game? No. I meant nerf ob' or remove them from pubs 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1763	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:15:00 - [48] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: NK Scout wrote: Im tired of losing 95k suits to some no skill kid who uses them like contact grenades, Irony police says, "if you keep losing suits to them so often, they're not the only ones with no skill" The fegs soawn in with super hp and throw 1 and kill or throw 1 die and detonate glitch after You want to stop the after death kill. Kill them then. No half measures. If they can be revived they can detonate, kill someone dead and they can't. The detonation process on an RE is not as quick as you seem to think, they are not as quick as contact grenades, as has already been stated. KRRROOOOOOM
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 795	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:15:00 - [49] - Quote Sees logi repping heavy.... throws remotes.... boom.... efficient kills... *Assassination is my thing.*
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 435	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:16:00 - [50] - Quote This... Makes no sense. If he throws it too far, you get up in his face and make him blow himself up if he wants to blow you up. No matter how much EHP you have, unless you're 1.8 Sentinel with resistance to splash damage, it will kill them. Also, every time you throw a remote, there's about a 2 second delay before you're able to detonate, switch weapons, or place another. That's without bearing in mind that the remote needs to 'settle' on the ground before it becomes active, like a nanohive. I'm sorry, but if someone's managing to stomp with RE's, kudos to them. You only get 4 at proto (I believe?) and I always use them to cover my getaway when being chased. The fact they can stomp with them is amazing. I should try it. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente

NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 241	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:16:00 - [51] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: NK Scout wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: if you're paying attention to what they're doing, rather than just the tip of your own weapon, then you can SEE them throwing down a remote. Which means you have time to get out of the blast radius. if you dont, but instead choose to keep on firing your weapon, then it's your own fault. ... They get thrown far, I can see them, no matter what I do sometimes I cant avoid it, its like a contact grenade, good distance then boom and ya know what? it happens. There are multiple types of situation in DUST where death is unavoidable. Also, contact grenades exist (Fused grenades). So... you dont really have grounds for complaint. Particularly since if they use it up close like that.... THEY have to get away too. They cant just drop it and blow it immediately, if they want to live. the blast will kill the detonator, just like a grenade can. Also.. the "detonate on death" thing? there's usually a lag of somewhere between .5 to 1.0 seconds, before the detonation can happen. So let's recap: Approximately 1 second of throw time, plus 2 second 'arm' time, and around 1 second deathswitch delay time. 4 seconds is a long time in DUST. You have no excuse for not getting out of the way, other than "I didnt see it coming". It only takes 1 second to sprint out of the 5m blast radius. What are you going to complain about next? people headshotting you from behind? "But... but.. I didnt see it coming! no fair!" Lol no I see a enemy, he throws it, less than a second later im dead Or he dies then I die when he is in the death screen because he's a diry exploiter. 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 241	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:18:00 - [52] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: This... Makes no sense. If he throws it too far, you get up in his face and make him blow himself up if he wants to blow you up. No matter how much EHP you have, unless you're 1.8 Sentinel with resistance to splash damage, it will kill them. Also, every time you throw a remote, there's about a 2 second delay before you're able to detonate, switch weapons, or place another. That's without bearing in mind that the remote needs to 'settle' on the ground before it becomes active, like a nanohive. I'm sorry, but if someone's managing to stomp with RE's, kudos to them. You only get 4 at proto (I believe?) and I always use them to cover my getaway when being chased. The fact they can stomp with them is amazing. I should try it. So what if they get 4? Does mean they get a iwin button, and it doesnt tqke much time to detonate after a throw or sver were exploiting two times per death 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 115	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:18:00 - [53] - Quote Advice to assault players who clearly don't listen well?! Good guys but your just not that bright?! Stop chasing kills!!!! You usually just end up dead?! You can't proto rush mob everybody smh?! Some people get sick of it! Some grab explosives ::) chasing guys into dark corners will get you shotgunned, blown up, knifed, etc. Blaster tanks are good for chasing one guy into traps just because they're kill greedy! I keep saying it! If it's not tactically or straregically sound put it away before i blow it up! You got squads that will have 3 points, using proto suits AND tanks, then stay in proto to run out to delta on foot to chase guys to the redline?! They get blown up and rage quit?!? Wtf sid you expect genius!! They start calling for nerfs of alreadt garbage weapons lol?! Whose been killed by militia assault rifles lol? Gotcha wit the dmg mods did they lol? Guess the assault rifle needs another nerfing lol! I hate to say it bro, but most people don't walk away from I.E.D's?! If it can drop a tank, you're screwed! Stop being a douche chasing a man into a corner. They got weapons for that now lol! Defend your assigned point, move as a squad to reinforce other points, and i bet you don't get blown up no where near as much walking to the next objective as you do chasing a scout for an easy kill. "Anybody order chaos?"
Damian Crisis Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 11	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:19:00 - [54] - Quote steals CCP's judge hammer and slams it on the table No Nerfing REs! DONE! Popularity is not an attribute of a Scout, unless it's the afterlife.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 242	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:20:00 - [55] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Sees logi repping heavy.... throws remotes.... boom.... efficient kills... Maybe sver were exploiting 2 things but if you sneak up on someone and you place remotes, fine you get the kill But not 1v1 its just annoying losing 100k to a no skill kid who thinks he has skill exploiting 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 782	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:21:00 - [56] - Quote Oh my, someone is calling out W-J-R for using remotes? XD I think only a few of us (myself included) use remotes in W-J-R outside of jihad jeeps. And if I kill you using remotes in my <300EHP scout suit, it's because I outplayed you ;)
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 898	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:21:00 - [57] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Lol no I see a enemy, he throws it, less than a second later im dead you're wrong. REs dont work that fast. Unless YOU SHOT IT YOURSELF. lol. Once again, we're in a "it's your fault" situation. Another possibility is that you see him throw his SECOND remote. but you didnt see him throw the one that actually killed you. I do that a lot. It's tough to RE a target that's moving around. So i try to sandwich them between two remotes before detonation.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 242	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:22:00 - [58] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Advice to assault players who clearly don't listen well?! Good guys but your just not that bright?! Stop chasing kills!!!! You usually just end up dead?! You can't proto rush mob everybody smh?! Some people get sick of it! Some grab explosives ::) chasing guys into dark corners will get you shotgunned, blown up, knifed, etc. Blaster tanks are good for chasing one guy into traps just because they're kill greedy! I keep saying it! If it's not tactically or straregically sound put it away before i blow it up! You got squads that will have 3 points, using proto suits AND tanks, then stay in proto to run out to delta on foot to chase guys to the redline?! They get blown up and rage quit?!? Wtf sid you expect genius!! They start calling for nerfs of alreadt garbage weapons lol?! Whose been killed by militia assault rifles lol? Gotcha wit the dmg mods did they lol? Guess the assault rifle needs another nerfing lol! I hate to say it bro, but most people don't walk away from I.E.D's?! If it can drop a tank, you're screwed! Stop being a douche chasing a man into a corner. They got weapons for that now lol! Defend your assigned point, move as a squad to reinforce other points, and i bet you don't get blown up no where near as much walking to the next objective as you do chasing a scout for an easy kill. I wasnt going in a corner, I see people pull that trick and it doesnt work I destroy thier remotes if I can and kill them Im talking about a 1v1 *** fight where the remote instakills a guy and he cant fight back because there is no time 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race**
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 242	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:23:00 - [59] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: NK Scout wrote: Lol no I see a enemy, he throws it, less than a second later im dead you're wrong. REs dont work that fast. Unless YOU SHOT IT YOURSELF. lol. Once again, we're in a "it's your fault" situation. Another possibility is that you see him throw his SECOND remote. but you didnt see him throw the one that actually killed you. I do that a lot. It's tough to RE a target that's moving around. So i try to sandwich them between two remotes before detonation. No, I see him spawn, around a second after I see him throw his remote im dead 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 311	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:23:00 - [60] - Quote calisk galern wrote: walks along....sees remote....shoots remote....keeps walking eyes, they aren't just for peeping anymore. Heh who places RE's when you can just throw it at their feet? No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .



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