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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:37:00 -
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We need to nerf the overpowered remote explosives and the iwin button orbitals
They are so ******* ocerpowered 1 shoting everything.
SVER and wasteland are using them as proof
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:39:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:also nerf the plasma cannon bcuz it one shot my starter fit
Plasma cannon is underpowered
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:43:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:NK Scout wrote:We need to nerf the overpowered remote explosives and the iwin button orbitals
They are so ******* ocerpowered 1 shoting everything.
SVER and wasteland are using them as proof But if remotes are needed how can I kill tanks :(
Im taloing infantry vs infantry insta kill bullshut
And they are detonatable after you just die
Im sick of sver abusing thrm
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:44:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:*walks along*....*sees remote*....*shoots remote*....*keeps walking*
eyes, they aren't just for peeping anymore.
1 it depends on the map
2 they instantly throw it and detonate the op explosive faster than a grenade
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:45:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:nerf the flay lock too, it one hits my militia minmitar scout when its shields are down, which is really OP. No proto weapon should do that. I can tank a shot from the basic flay lock, but there was this one guy who shot me once with one and i died. I demand a nerf
It was like a grenade throw and it was a adv remote
Orbitals need to be nerfed or remove them from pubs and the remotes shouldnt insta kill my super tank fit because I need it against nyan san stomps
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:46:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:oh ya the post death explosion, if that's what you are complaining about, that's legit no reason for that to happen.
Not just that
Around corner or like a contact grenade
*** throws remote
*** detonate milaseconds later
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:50:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:just realized hes not trolling... -1
How about this
Decrease delay before being able to place remote
Increase radius
Increase damage to vehicles
Change the remote vs infantry where it cant ohk a high tank fit at max range
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:51:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:NK Scout wrote:calisk galern wrote:oh ya the post death explosion, if that's what you are complaining about, that's legit no reason for that to happen. Not just that Around corner or like a contact grenade *** throws remote *** detonate milaseconds later well that's just fine ^^ sorry the weapon has uses, but sadly it does, corner RE's can usually be handled with grenades and combat awareness i.e pushing wide around the turn, don't get me wrong even I get caught by re's once in awhile, but I also get caught by Rail rifle/CR too, i'll tell you right now it's a lot easier to kill someone with a rail rifle then an RE.
Im tired of losing 95k suits to some no skill kid who uses them like contact grenades, it also happened when I wore cheap gear
Not as annoying then but still annoying
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:56:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:NK Scout wrote:
Im tired of losing 95k suits to some no skill kid who uses them like contact grenades,
Irony police says, "if you keep losing suits to them so often, they're not the only ones with no skill" 
The fegs soawn in with super hp and throw 1 and kill or throw 1 die and detonate glitch after
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:57:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:NK Scout wrote:calisk galern wrote:NK Scout wrote:calisk galern wrote:oh ya the post death explosion, if that's what you are complaining about, that's legit no reason for that to happen. Not just that Around corner or like a contact grenade *** throws remote *** detonate milaseconds later well that's just fine ^^ sorry the weapon has uses, but sadly it does, corner RE's can usually be handled with grenades and combat awareness i.e pushing wide around the turn, don't get me wrong even I get caught by re's once in awhile, but I also get caught by Rail rifle/CR too, i'll tell you right now it's a lot easier to kill someone with a rail rifle then an RE. Im tired of losing 95k suits to some no skill kid who uses them like contact grenades, it also happened when I wore cheap gear Not as annoying then but still annoying then start being more aware, re's are a trap weapon, they only work if the other people fall into the trap. the contact grenade style of play is fairly easy to avoid, and even easier if they would fix the post death issue.
Like I said above, super hp and they detonate before I get 5 shots off and if they die I get killed immediately after because of the glitch
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:00:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school?
Re read the op
They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after
Or they simply kill you before you kill them
I'd love to see it go away
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:04:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I've got nothing but admiration for RE players who can kill this way. OP? Try it some time, I don't see everyone doing it, because it is a lot harder than going pew pew.
Not when they instantly spawn in with high hp, throw a remote and detonate without taking much damge
Or you kill them and they exploit a glitch and kill you
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:06:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:NK Scout wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school? Re read the op They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after Or they simply kill you before you kill them I'd love to see it go away You're not "paying attention", like an earlier poster says. if you're paying attention to what they're doing, rather than just the tip of your own weapon, then you can SEE them throwing down a remote. Which means you have time to get out of the blast radius. if you dont, but instead choose to keep on firing your weapon, then it's your own fault. btw, for the record, I do it in low hp suits (scout, zero armor+shield modules), so I dont get why you complain about them doing it in high hp suits. The end result is the same 
They get thrown far, I can see them, no matter what I do sometimes I cant avoid it, its like a contact grenade, good distance then boom
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:06:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Remotes need a buff if anything.
Orbitals need to be awarded based on something other than war point accrual.
I mean a nerf to infantry killing, they should be for traps not a kinda contact grenade
But for vehicles they do need a buff
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:07:00 -
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Sam Booty wrote:NK Scout wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school? Re read the op They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after Or they simply kill you before you kill them I'd love to see it go away Or... learn from them and get RE. Stop complaining. They should make RE explode holes in walls.
Enrish preashe
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:08:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I've never seen a heavy do it and all I can see are disadvantages to using a heavy suit.
I mean a med frame, with lots of hp insta killing
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:14:00 -
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Sam Booty wrote:NK Scout wrote:Sam Booty wrote:NK Scout wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school? Re read the op They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after Or they simply kill you before you kill them I'd love to see it go away Or... learn from them and get RE. Stop complaining. They should make RE explode holes in walls. Enrish preashe Uzee dee RE 2 killee, mui bueno.
Im not speced into explosives
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:15:00 -
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T'orq wrote:I am one of hose people, but I do it in the starter fits. I agree that the post death explosion needs fixed ( not that I am not having fun with it  ), but Nerf them? No. Take OB's out of the game? No.
I meant nerf ob' or remove them from pubs
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:16:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:NK Scout wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:
if you're paying attention to what they're doing, rather than just the tip of your own weapon, then you can SEE them throwing down a remote.
Which means you have time to get out of the blast radius.
if you dont, but instead choose to keep on firing your weapon, then it's your own fault.
...
They get thrown far, I can see them, no matter what I do sometimes I cant avoid it, its like a contact grenade, good distance then boom and ya know what? it happens. There are multiple types of situation in DUST where death is unavoidable. Also, contact grenades exist (Fused grenades). So... you dont really have grounds for complaint. Particularly since if they use it up close like that.... THEY have to get away too. They cant just drop it and blow it immediately, if they want to live. the blast will kill the detonator, just like a grenade can. Also.. the "detonate on death" thing? there's usually a lag of somewhere between .5 to 1.0 seconds, before the detonation can happen. So let's recap: Approximately 1 second of throw time, plus 2 second 'arm' time, and around 1 second deathswitch delay time. 4 seconds is a long time in DUST. You have no excuse for not getting out of the way, other than "I didnt see it coming". It only takes 1 second to sprint out of the 5m blast radius. What are you going to complain about next? people headshotting you from behind? "But... but.. I didnt see it coming! no fair!"
Lol no
I see a enemy, he throws it, less than a second later im dead
Or he dies then I die when he is in the death screen because he's a diry exploiter.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:18:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:This... Makes no sense. If he throws it too far, you get up in his face and make him blow himself up if he wants to blow you up. No matter how much EHP you have, unless you're 1.8 Sentinel with resistance to splash damage, it will kill them. Also, every time you throw a remote, there's about a 2 second delay before you're able to detonate, switch weapons, or place another. That's without bearing in mind that the remote needs to 'settle' on the ground before it becomes active, like a nanohive.
I'm sorry, but if someone's managing to stomp with RE's, kudos to them. You only get 4 at proto (I believe?) and I always use them to cover my getaway when being chased. The fact they can stomp with them is amazing.
I should try it.
So what if they get 4? Does mean they get a iwin button, and it doesnt tqke much time to detonate after a throw or sver were exploiting two times per death
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:20:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:*Sees logi repping heavy.... throws remotes.... boom.... efficient kills...*
Maybe sver were exploiting 2 things but if you sneak up on someone and you place remotes, fine you get the kill
But not 1v1 its just annoying losing 100k to a no skill kid who thinks he has skill exploiting
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:22:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Advice to assault players who clearly don't listen well?! Good guys but your just not that bright?! Stop chasing kills!!!! You usually just end up dead?! You can't proto rush mob everybody smh?! Some people get sick of it! Some grab explosives ::)
chasing guys into dark corners will get you shotgunned, blown up, knifed, etc. Blaster tanks are good for chasing one guy into traps just because they're kill greedy! I keep saying it! If it's not tactically or straregically sound put it away before i blow it up!
You got squads that will have 3 points, using proto suits AND tanks, then stay in proto to run out to delta on foot to chase guys to the redline?! They get blown up and rage quit?!? Wtf sid you expect genius!! They start calling for nerfs of alreadt garbage weapons lol?!
Whose been killed by militia assault rifles lol? Gotcha wit the dmg mods did they lol? Guess the assault rifle needs another nerfing lol!
I hate to say it bro, but most people don't walk away from I.E.D's?! If it can drop a tank, you're screwed! Stop being a douche chasing a man into a corner. They got weapons for that now lol! Defend your assigned point, move as a squad to reinforce other points, and i bet you don't get blown up no where near as much walking to the next objective as you do chasing a scout for an easy kill.
I wasnt going in a corner, I see people pull that trick and it doesnt work I destroy thier remotes if I can and kill them
Im talking about a 1v1 ***** fight where the remote instakills a guy and he cant fight back because there is no time
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:23:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:NK Scout wrote:
Lol no
I see a enemy, he throws it, less than a second later im dead
you're wrong. REs dont work that fast. Unless YOU SHOT IT YOURSELF. lol. Once again, we're in a "it's your fault" situation. Another possibility is that you see him throw his SECOND remote. but you didnt see him throw the one that actually killed you. I do that a lot. It's tough to RE a target that's moving around. So i try to sandwich them between two remotes before detonation.
No, I see him spawn, around a second after I see him throw his remote im dead
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:24:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Oh my, someone is calling out W-J-R for using remotes? XD
I think only a few of us (myself included) use remotes in W-J-R outside of jihad jeeps.
And if I kill you using remotes in my <300EHP scout suit, it's because I outplayed you ;)
No it was sver in a 600 hp suit or more and exploiting or something
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:31:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:NK Scout wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Advice to assault players who clearly don't listen well?! Good guys but your just not that bright?! Stop chasing kills!!!! You usually just end up dead?! You can't proto rush mob everybody smh?! Some people get sick of it! Some grab explosives ::)
chasing guys into dark corners will get you shotgunned, blown up, knifed, etc. Blaster tanks are good for chasing one guy into traps just because they're kill greedy! I keep saying it! If it's not tactically or straregically sound put it away before i blow it up!
You got squads that will have 3 points, using proto suits AND tanks, then stay in proto to run out to delta on foot to chase guys to the redline?! They get blown up and rage quit?!? Wtf sid you expect genius!! They start calling for nerfs of alreadt garbage weapons lol?!
Whose been killed by militia assault rifles lol? Gotcha wit the dmg mods did they lol? Guess the assault rifle needs another nerfing lol!
I hate to say it bro, but most people don't walk away from I.E.D's?! If it can drop a tank, you're screwed! Stop being a douche chasing a man into a corner. They got weapons for that now lol! Defend your assigned point, move as a squad to reinforce other points, and i bet you don't get blown up no where near as much walking to the next objective as you do chasing a scout for an easy kill. I wasnt going in a corner, I see people pull that trick and it doesnt work I destroy thier remotes if I can and kill them Im talking about a 1v1 ***** fight where the remote instakills a guy and he cant fight back because there is no time Gotcha! Well i'll say this. If he's close enough to remote you.... you're too close! It's the mentality of the way most of you fight bro hear me out?! Sprint, locate, shoot, repeat?! No tactics, no strategy, just my 100k suit should beat everything i see?! You'll see a guy coming if you stop running all over hunting him lol! Try to just slow down. Ask any scout! Guys running toward you are the easiest to remote! That's where it came from lol!
My 100k suit shouldn't beat everything but I shouldn't get 1 shotted by a std remote
And there was no way I could get further than 20m because they had a cru so....
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:37:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:NK Scout wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Advice to assault players who clearly don't listen well?! Good guys but your just not that bright?! Stop chasing kills!!!! You usually just end up dead?! You can't proto rush mob everybody smh?! Some people get sick of it! Some grab explosives ::)
chasing guys into dark corners will get you shotgunned, blown up, knifed, etc. Blaster tanks are good for chasing one guy into traps just because they're kill greedy! I keep saying it! If it's not tactically or straregically sound put it away before i blow it up!
You got squads that will have 3 points, using proto suits AND tanks, then stay in proto to run out to delta on foot to chase guys to the redline?! They get blown up and rage quit?!? Wtf sid you expect genius!! They start calling for nerfs of alreadt garbage weapons lol?!
Whose been killed by militia assault rifles lol? Gotcha wit the dmg mods did they lol? Guess the assault rifle needs another nerfing lol!
I hate to say it bro, but most people don't walk away from I.E.D's?! If it can drop a tank, you're screwed! Stop being a douche chasing a man into a corner. They got weapons for that now lol! Defend your assigned point, move as a squad to reinforce other points, and i bet you don't get blown up no where near as much walking to the next objective as you do chasing a scout for an easy kill. I wasnt going in a corner, I see people pull that trick and it doesnt work I destroy thier remotes if I can and kill them Im talking about a 1v1 ***** fight where the remote instakills a guy and he cant fight back because there is no time Gotcha! Well i'll say this. If he's close enough to remote you.... you're too close! It's the mentality of the way most of you fight bro hear me out?! Sprint, locate, shoot, repeat?! No tactics, no strategy, just my 100k suit should beat everything i see?! You'll see a guy coming if you stop running all over hunting him lol! Try to just slow down. Ask any scout! Guys running toward you are the easiest to remote! That's where it came from lol! My 100k suit should beat everything but I shoukdnt get 1 shotted by a std remote And there was no way I could get further than 20m because they had a cru so....
SHOULDNT! Damm tablet, it snoudlnt beat everything
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Posted - 2014.02.04 19:15:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:NK Scout wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Yeah, not trolling. It's called paying attention. You know, that thing you have to do in school? Re read the op They come in high hp suits, throw a remote at you, if you kill them they kill you right after Or they simply kill you before you kill them I'd love to see it go away Jump to the side? Jump backward? Don't Always kill-chase, most of the time it's it is never a trap? Sorry, no sympathy. FYP
I move backwards I knew they wereusing re's but the range........
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