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Michael Epic
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:39:00 -
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What's the point in stopping it? What does it hurt? Name one negative thing about it.....
Does it affect you in battle? No. Because the weapons used are earned and upgraded in SP by grinding it out. Factional Warfare makes us go practically bankrupt because it doesn't pay isk and duvolle's and rail rifles and combat rifles and the like are expensive. Proto suits are expensive...hell, everything is expensive for what's paid in pubs.
So what does it hurt? The more serious problem is the vets who go into the battle academy with new characters and stomp the hell out of new players and turn them off from expanding the player base.
Why don't you pick that to complain about? The isk farming exploit is one of the only things in this game that is totally fair to every single person. Anyone can do it....and everyone can do it.
So honestly...I don't see the problem. If you don't like it, don't do it....but don't use your bias to rain on everyone else's parade.
EDIT: oh yeah and that wouldn't discourage users from doing it....because you get into the battle academy, go 46/4 and get paid 300,000 isk so that doubles what you start with....messing with the isk farming would increase the battle academy stomping and double the problem of losing potential new players. |
Michael Epic
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:28:00 -
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Glass Zeraki wrote:Sigh...the people that do this are manipulating the game to their advantage and are gaining ISK in a way that was never intended. Secondly, this could be game-breaking when the player market opens. Put simply, you should only be able to earn ISK by actually playing the game, which means participating in battles.
You seriously think that CCP isn't smart enough to realize this would have happened? You don't think they sat down in a meeting room to decide new features to add to the game and when "Give Money" came up they didn't assume that the isk farming of new accounts would happen?
Why do you think the "Give Money" feature was even added? In a game that is so cutthroat and played by such petty people that they redline snipe you WITH A TANK or camp you at a CRU or anything else...what? People are gonna grind it out in starter fittings or low tier gear and when you come along pissing and moaning that you're out of money for proto suits they're gonna be like aw poor baby here's 10,000,00 isk buddy daddy make it better?
I doubt it. The "Give Money" feature was created and implemented in the game as an unspoken way around the money troubles. They can't come right out and say it....because that's no bueno, but its the only thing that makes sense.
So no one is manipulating a thing, holmes. They're using the tools that are available to create what they need. If I laid out in front of you enough metal and tools to create a canopener forged by hand and you made the coolest can opener ever...how would you feel if I came along and told you that you're manipulating the world and you're cheating a company by not buying their can opener....wouldn't that sound outlandish and ridiculous to you?
Case and point. |
Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:42:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:250k ISK really isn't that much. It's like 1-2 battles, it's hardly worth the time to do it.
One battle = 15-18 minutes (search time, loading time, que time, play time, ending time, loading back to merc quarters time) 150-250k isk.
One account = 6 minutes start to finish, making characters, loading screens, dumping isk, ect 750,000isk
6, 12, 18 = 750,000 x 3 = 2.25 million isk in the same amount of time as one battle.
Yeah, sorry holmes lol but you're as wrong as wrong can possibly be. |
Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:58:00 -
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Also....HELLO!? Aurum.
Lets say its someones birthday and they get $500 from relatives and they spend it all on PSN cards and get all the best stuff 1,000 times over and stomp you with it...should we outlaw aurum? That wasn't earned in battle and is a "manipulation" of the system by your method of thinking.
They aren't participating in battles to get that stuff...so what says you about that? EXACT SAME PRINCIPAL. |
Michael Epic
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:00:00 -
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So....THIS IS WHAT THE FOX SAYS!?
(sorry bro, couldn't resist lol)
I actually agree with you though haha if they fix the need to farm isk with multiple characters by fixing the balance problems then people might stop doing that so much...idk, I'm not them. |
Michael Epic
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:11:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Michael Epic wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:250k ISK really isn't that much. It's like 1-2 battles, it's hardly worth the time to do it. One battle = 15-18 minutes (search time, loading time, que time, play time, ending time, loading back to merc quarters time) 150-250k isk. One account = 6 minutes start to finish, making characters, loading screens, dumping isk, ect 750,000isk 6, 12, 18 = 750,000 x 3 = 2.25 million isk in the same amount of time as one battle. Yeah, sorry holmes lol but you're as wrong as wrong can possibly be. That sounds awfully fast to make a PSN, open dust, make 3 chars, and dump the isk in 6 minutes. Sounds like you know a little too much about this.... hmm....
Dude, you don't need a valid email address to get a psn...you can literally type whatever into it and once you add an account and make the psn...you have them indefinitely.
So yeah..start to finish, 6 minutes. Its actually more like 5 minutes 40 seconds especially if you use a keyboard. Your PS3 can hold up to 16 accounts, so 15 besides your main gaming account. |
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