its called doing math in your head, i hear they teach that in 2nd grade.

are you seriously going to attempt to argue with me without either of us having anything to argue over?

they call that an argument for arguments sake


please dont assume im an idiot, becuase im not, and hilariously enough your arguing against someone who agrees with you, and as such are arguing with yourself so please stop.

Ok, so then why don't we both argue to CCP that the gunmonkeys should be the ones forced to do math and track their own kills and deaths.

Besides, I am fairly certain we are talking about two different things here.

Correct me if I am wrong, but you are talking about comparing the amount of Isk you earn in a match with the amount of Isk you lost in the form of dropsuits right?

I am talking about comparing the amount of Isk I forced my enemy to lose when I RE'd their Assault Mk.0 or jihad jeeped their gunnlogi with the amount of Isk I lost in the form of dropsuits.

I can do the simple maths involved in your scenario, though I am missing vital info for doing same said maths for my scenario.

no we are talking about the same thing

its just that i make estimations rather then concrete calculations.

gunnlogi = 450k MKO = 150k

averages man, averages

the entire reason we as humans are still supirior to computers are that we are scary accurate with our estimations in compairison to the amount of effort we use up to make them, stop thinking so hard and just estimate things, its quicker and probably more accurate.

I still want to be able to see a concrete number as well as an overall percentage. It should be included in the leaderboards and the fact that it isn't is an egregious omission on CCPs part.

If KDR is there, so should Isk Efficiency be as well.

OK so....I was playing fw.....and fw army was on ?my team.....they suicided till we lost because of clone count.......seriously that's the cheapest thing in this game yet......

And no I'm not bashing fwa goals.....but to just suicide in free suits over and over just to screw other corps out of lp.......thats just cheap

Not to mention requires no skill to do.......

I believe you SHOULD be able to screw your team over.....but it should require a little more than repeatedly falling to your death out of the MCC

Something needs to be done about this.....it becomes a problem when every noob that starts playing this game can go and rig a match just to mess with people

Suicides SHOULD count towards clone count.....but what if we put a suicide limit before the match kicks you
OR make it so if you do enough damage to your own team it will switch you to the opposing team( like I said I admire fwas goal just not the method)

OR make it so each consecutive suicide makes your spawn timer double each time....if you suicide 4 times consecutively in a row on a 10 sec spawn you would take 160seconds to enter the match......each enemy killed reduces the spawn time by one level....so using the above numbers if I kill one enemy after four suicides I will take 80 secs to spawn



Thoughts?

Hahahaha haha, cbj is passing down his knowledge is all.

lawl, i vote we let them do it.


anyone dumb enough to trash their stats over and over again for zero LP/ISK gain is alright in my books.

Forget FW anyway its a totally stupid gamemode. You try and do well in your team, then you get kicked for a single shot into an enemy tank. (Well what you thought was an enemy tank, obviously a hacked friendly tank but the idiotic game doesn't differentiate.)