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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.02.04 14:13:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:lawl, i vote we let them do it.
anyone dumb enough to trash their stats over and over again for zero LP/ISK gain is alright in my books. These are just alts usually, or people who have given up on the game and want everyone else to give up as well. except all you have to do is leave game and it no longer effects you :P its a high effort no reward situation for them.
Not everyone cares about stats.
Some only care for particular stats like Isk efficiency (which isn't tracked even though it should be).
Just because someone is focused like a laser on their stats like I assume you gents are doesn't mean everyone is.
I had a match where I went 0-2-0 the other night, yet I was on top of the end of match stats due to WP, did I not contribute to my team?
KDR has less meaning in Dust than in other FPS, especially when you consider tactics like Jihad Jeeps are a valid way to help your team. Isk Efficiency would be a far better metric by which to measure the worth of a mercenary, it is a direct display of return on investment. Mercenary A inflicted X damage on your enemy for Y investment, Y = 5% of X, that is a mercenary you want to invest in. Mercenary B inflicted V damage on your enemy for W investment, W = 500% of V, is that someone you really want to hire again?
Mercenary A might've died 23 times, but still managed to inflict the damage they did efficiently by intelligent use of resources.
Mercenary B might've died once, but made your opponent suffer far less than the amount of Isk you invested would've led you to believe that they would've.
KDR < Isk Efficiency.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1514
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Posted - 2014.02.04 19:01:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:lawl, i vote we let them do it.
anyone dumb enough to trash their stats over and over again for zero LP/ISK gain is alright in my books. These are just alts usually, or people who have given up on the game and want everyone else to give up as well. except all you have to do is leave game and it no longer effects you :P its a high effort no reward situation for them. Not everyone cares about stats. Some only care for particular stats like Isk efficiency (which isn't tracked even though it should be). Just because someone is focused like a laser on their stats like I assume you gents are doesn't mean everyone is. I had a match where I went 0-2-0 the other night, yet I was on top of the end of match stats due to WP, did I not contribute to my team? KDR has less meaning in Dust than in other FPS, especially when you consider tactics like Jihad Jeeps are a valid way to help your team. Isk Efficiency would be a far better metric by which to measure the worth of a mercenary, it is a direct display of return on investment. Mercenary A inflicted X damage on your enemy for Y investment, Y = 5% of X, that is a mercenary you want to invest in. Mercenary B inflicted V damage on your enemy for W investment, W = 500% of V, is that someone you really want to hire again? Mercenary A might've died 23 times, but still managed to inflict the damage they did efficiently by intelligent use of resources. Mercenary B might've died once, but made your opponent suffer far less than the amount of Isk you invested would've led you to believe that they would've. KDR < Isk Efficiency. yah yah yah, lots of irrelevent crap that post is becuase isk efficiany is a stat dumbass and scuiciding yoruself over and over again for literally ZERO net gain is dumb especially since the effort required to do this over and over again isnt really worth any potential enjoyment you may initially recieve its high effort, low reward, and effort to reward ratio is ALSO a stat i never said KDR, and i was never refering to KDR, hilariously enough i was refering to isk efficiancy and effort efficiancy
Please point out where exactly Isk Efficiency is tracked? I mean, KDR is thrown in your face at the end of the match, but where is the Isk Efficiency for the match tracked? Please, I'd love to see where this is because I've been looking for it since closed beta.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1514
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Posted - 2014.02.04 19:11:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Please point out where exactly Isk Efficiency is tracked? I mean, KDR is thrown in your face at the end of the match, but where is the Isk Efficiency for the match tracked? Please, I'd love to see where this is because I've been looking for it since closed beta.
its called doing math in your head, i hear they teach that in 2nd grade. are you seriously going to attempt to argue with me without either of us having anything to argue over? they call that an argument for arguments sake please dont assume im an idiot, becuase im not, and hilariously enough your arguing against someone who agrees with you, and as such are arguing with yourself so please stop.
Ok, so then why don't we both argue to CCP that the gunmonkeys should be the ones forced to do math and track their own kills and deaths.
Besides, I am fairly certain we are talking about two different things here.
Correct me if I am wrong, but you are talking about comparing the amount of Isk you earn in a match with the amount of Isk you lost in the form of dropsuits right?
I am talking about comparing the amount of Isk I forced my enemy to lose when I RE'd their Assault Mk.0 or jihad jeeped their gunnlogi with the amount of Isk I lost in the form of dropsuits.
I can do the simple maths involved in your scenario, though I am missing vital info for doing same said maths for my scenario.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1514
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Posted - 2014.02.04 19:33:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Please point out where exactly Isk Efficiency is tracked? I mean, KDR is thrown in your face at the end of the match, but where is the Isk Efficiency for the match tracked? Please, I'd love to see where this is because I've been looking for it since closed beta.
its called doing math in your head, i hear they teach that in 2nd grade. are you seriously going to attempt to argue with me without either of us having anything to argue over? they call that an argument for arguments sake please dont assume im an idiot, becuase im not, and hilariously enough your arguing against someone who agrees with you, and as such are arguing with yourself so please stop. Ok, so then why don't we both argue to CCP that the gunmonkeys should be the ones forced to do math and track their own kills and deaths. Besides, I am fairly certain we are talking about two different things here. Correct me if I am wrong, but you are talking about comparing the amount of Isk you earn in a match with the amount of Isk you lost in the form of dropsuits right? I am talking about comparing the amount of Isk I forced my enemy to lose when I RE'd their Assault Mk.0 or jihad jeeped their gunnlogi with the amount of Isk I lost in the form of dropsuits. I can do the simple maths involved in your scenario, though I am missing vital info for doing same said maths for my scenario. no we are talking about the same thing its just that i make estimations rather then concrete calculations. gunnlogi = 450k MKO = 150k averages man, averages the entire reason we as humans are still supirior to computers are that we are scary accurate with our estimations in compairison to the amount of effort we use up to make them, stop thinking so hard and just estimate things, its quicker and probably more accurate.
I still want to be able to see a concrete number as well as an overall percentage. It should be included in the leaderboards and the fact that it isn't is an egregious omission on CCPs part.
If KDR is there, so should Isk Efficiency be as well.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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