DUST Search - Gal sentinel without resists is at 1810 eHP

Garth Mandra wrote:

Roger Cordill wrote:

Garth Mandra wrote:

Logi Bro wrote:

What are you basing this off of? All low slots filled with PRO plates? Because natural ehP is 390/525 shields/armor, and with maxed skills it goes up to 487/656, adding up to 1143, several hundred short of your number. But a PRO plate + maxed skills is 148/plate, so all four slots filled means +592 armor, making total eHP 1735, still short of 1810.

Unless you actually think putting a shield extender on a Galheavy is a good idea. Shocked

He's about right. He's talking about EHP not total HP.

Presumably he's assuming that the heavy is being shot with some kind of railgun and thus gets 15% resistance with the armour.

Raw Armour = 525*1.25 + 4 * 148 = 1248 armour
Raw Shields = 390*1.25 = 487 shields

Take the 15% armour resistance against railguns into account:
1248*1.15 = 1435 armour

Now take the damage profile of the railgun into account (90%/110%):
487 * 1.1 + 1435 * 0.9 = 1827 EHP

message from Godin: No, I was talking raw eHP, not resisted eHP. 4 complex plates and a complex shield.

Then surely it should be HP rather than EHP? Hit points rather than effective hit points.

Ah yes, "Without resists". I should learn to read. o7

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Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 355	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:08:00 - [1] - Quote message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4368	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:10:00 - [2] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Title* XD AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 848	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:12:00 - [3] - Quote It will definitely deserve the label "Sentinel" because it's not going anywhere fast. Dropship Specialist Kills- Incubus: 4; Pythons: 3 Gêå1; Other DS: 31 Gêå2; Tanks: 33 Gêå2 2/2
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6558	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:18:00 - [4] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Your Gal scout can have 1000+ HP next build stop bitching. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 2830	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:19:00 - [5] - Quote What are you basing this off of? All low slots filled with PRO plates? Because natural ehP is 390/525 shields/armor, and with maxed skills it goes up to 487/656, adding up to 1143, several hundred short of your number. But a PRO plate + maxed skills is 148/plate, so all four slots filled means +592 armor, making total eHP 1735, still short of 1810. Unless you actually think putting a shield extender on a Galheavy is a good idea. Shield Recommendations
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 134	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:20:00 - [6] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: It will definitely deserve the label "Sentinel" because it's not going anywhere fast. Yes because heavy pussies won't use a LAV to haul this brick tanked fat ass around, jumping out and killing players only to jump back in the LAV and drive away at this first sign of trouble. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1627	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:21:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Your Gal scout can have 1000+ HP next build stop bitching. With smaller frame and both radar and physical invisibleness Tank 514.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 2881	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:22:00 - [8] - Quote nothing a 1.1 second session with my knifes can't handle "The human brain named itself... :o" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 814	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:22:00 - [9] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: What are you basing this off of? All low slots filled with PRO plates? Because natural ehP is 390/525 shields/armor, and with maxed skills it goes up to 487/656, adding up to 1143, several hundred short of your number. But a PRO plate + maxed skills is 148/plate, so all four slots filled means +592 armor, making total eHP 1735, still short of 1810. Unless you actually think putting a shield extender on a Galheavy is a good idea. If you have a heavy machine gun, why not dual tank? Because of the shield regen? LOL
IrishWebster Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 165	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:47:00 - [10] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Message from IrishWebster; You're a fu*ing idiot. Shut the fck up with your dumb a** messages from no one that anyone f*cking cares about.

True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6559	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:52:00 - [11] - Quote IrishWebster wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Message from IrishWebster; You're a fu*ing idiot. Shut the fck up with your dumb a** messages from no one that anyone f*cking cares about. Someone hope this would go under the radar didn't they...? "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2181	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:01:00 - [12] - Quote 1.8 is definitely going to be interesting. And to think weapon damage is going to be reduced as well... Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 355	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:05:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Your Gal scout can have 1000+ HP next build stop bitching. message from Godin: Why does everyone think I'm bitching about it? Can I not state anything anymore? Anyways, **** tanking a Scout. I'd rather hide than have tank.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 355	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:06:00 - [14] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Logi Bro wrote: What are you basing this off of? All low slots filled with PRO plates? Because natural ehP is 390/525 shields/armor, and with maxed skills it goes up to 487/656, adding up to 1143, several hundred short of your number. But a PRO plate + maxed skills is 148/plate, so all four slots filled means +592 armor, making total eHP 1735, still short of 1810. Unless you actually think putting a shield extender on a Galheavy is a good idea. If you have a heavy machine gun, why not dual tank? Because of the shield regen? LOL message from Godin: This.
Garth Mandra The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 305	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:08:00 - [15] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: What are you basing this off of? All low slots filled with PRO plates? Because natural ehP is 390/525 shields/armor, and with maxed skills it goes up to 487/656, adding up to 1143, several hundred short of your number. But a PRO plate + maxed skills is 148/plate, so all four slots filled means +592 armor, making total eHP 1735, still short of 1810. Unless you actually think putting a shield extender on a Galheavy is a good idea. He's about right. He's talking about EHP not total HP. Presumably he's assuming that the heavy is being shot with some kind of railgun and thus gets 15% resistance with the armour. Raw Armour = 5251.25 + 4 148 = 1248 armour Raw Shields = 3901.25 = 487 shields Take the 15% armour resistance against railguns into account: 12481.15 = 1435 armour Now take the damage profile of the railgun into account (90%/110%): 487 * 1.1 + 1435 * 0.9 = 1827 EHP
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 355	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:10:00 - [16] - Quote Garth Mandra wrote: Logi Bro wrote: What are you basing this off of? All low slots filled with PRO plates? Because natural ehP is 390/525 shields/armor, and with maxed skills it goes up to 487/656, adding up to 1143, several hundred short of your number. But a PRO plate + maxed skills is 148/plate, so all four slots filled means +592 armor, making total eHP 1735, still short of 1810. Unless you actually think putting a shield extender on a Galheavy is a good idea. He's about right. He's talking about EHP not total HP. Presumably he's assuming that the heavy is being shot with some kind of railgun and thus gets 15% resistance with the armour. Raw Armour = 5251.25 + 4 148 = 1248 armour Raw Shields = 3901.25 = 487 shields Take the 15% armour resistance against railguns into account: 12481.15 = 1435 armour Now take the damage profile of the railgun into account (90%/110%): 487 * 1.1 + 1435 * 0.9 = 1827 EHP message from Godin: No, I was talking raw eHP, not resisted eHP. 4 complex plates and a complex shield.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6561	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:11:00 - [17] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: True Adamance wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Your Gal scout can have 1000+ HP next build stop bitching. message from Godin: Why does everyone think I'm bitching about it? Can I not state anything anymore? Anyways, **** tanking a Scout. I'd rather hide than have tank. You normally are complaining though Like the rest of us. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 355	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:15:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: True Adamance wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Your Gal scout can have 1000+ HP next build stop bitching. message from Godin: Why does everyone think I'm bitching about it? Can I not state anything anymore? Anyways, **** tanking a Scout. I'd rather hide than have tank. You normally are complaining though Like the rest of us. message from Godin: But I lovew to kill tanked fatasses
Garth Mandra The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 305	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:22:00 - [19] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Garth Mandra wrote: Logi Bro wrote: What are you basing this off of? All low slots filled with PRO plates? Because natural ehP is 390/525 shields/armor, and with maxed skills it goes up to 487/656, adding up to 1143, several hundred short of your number. But a PRO plate + maxed skills is 148/plate, so all four slots filled means +592 armor, making total eHP 1735, still short of 1810. Unless you actually think putting a shield extender on a Galheavy is a good idea. He's about right. He's talking about EHP not total HP. Presumably he's assuming that the heavy is being shot with some kind of railgun and thus gets 15% resistance with the armour. Raw Armour = 5251.25 + 4 148 = 1248 armour Raw Shields = 3901.25 = 487 shields Take the 15% armour resistance against railguns into account: 12481.15 = 1435 armour Now take the damage profile of the railgun into account (90%/110%): 487 * 1.1 + 1435 * 0.9 = 1827 EHP message from Godin: No, I was talking raw eHP, not resisted eHP. 4 complex plates and a complex shield. Then surely it should be HP rather than EHP? Hit points rather than effective hit points. Ah yes, "Without resists". I should learn to read. o7
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 355	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:24:00 - [20] - Quote Garth Mandra wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Garth Mandra wrote: Logi Bro wrote: What are you basing this off of? All low slots filled with PRO plates? Because natural ehP is 390/525 shields/armor, and with maxed skills it goes up to 487/656, adding up to 1143, several hundred short of your number. But a PRO plate + maxed skills is 148/plate, so all four slots filled means +592 armor, making total eHP 1735, still short of 1810. Unless you actually think putting a shield extender on a Galheavy is a good idea. He's about right. He's talking about EHP not total HP. Presumably he's assuming that the heavy is being shot with some kind of railgun and thus gets 15% resistance with the armour. Raw Armour = 5251.25 + 4 148 = 1248 armour Raw Shields = 3901.25 = 487 shields Take the 15% armour resistance against railguns into account: 12481.15 = 1435 armour Now take the damage profile of the railgun into account (90%/110%): 487 * 1.1 + 1435 * 0.9 = 1827 EHP message from Godin: No, I was talking raw eHP, not resisted eHP. 4 complex plates and a complex shield. Then surely it should be HP rather than EHP? Hit points rather than effective hit points. Ah yes, "Without resists". I should learn to read. o7 HP counts only 1 tank, unmodified. eHP counts more than one tank, unmodified or modified.

negative49er Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 493	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:01:00 - [21] - Quote Then you get charge nova knife by my minmatar scout ninja vanish Dedicated Shotgun Scout
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6567	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:07:00 - [22] - Quote negative49er wrote: Then you get charge nova knife by my minmatar scout ninja vanish Meh tops NK damage I've seen is 988...that's still 2 charged hits. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 4388	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:09:00 - [23] - Quote Can't wait for Gallente Commando. Plasma Assault Rifle and Cannon here we go!
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 847	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:10:00 - [24] - Quote True Adamance wrote: negative49er wrote: Then you get charge nova knife by my minmatar scout ninja vanish Meh tops NK damage I've seen is 988...that's still 2 charged hits. SLASHSLASH cloak wait.... SLASHSLASH! dead heavy. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6570	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:15:00 - [25] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: True Adamance wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Your Gal scout can have 1000+ HP next build stop bitching. With smaller frame and both radar and physical invisibleness Plus 3 inherent armour reps per sec and better biotics stats than an Gal Assault. Min Scout = best assault in the game. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 408	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:17:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: True Adamance wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Your Gal scout can have 1000+ HP next build stop bitching. With smaller frame and both radar and physical invisibleness Plus 3 inherent armour reps per sec and better biotics stats than an Gal Assault. Gal Scout = best assault in the game. Sorry had to correct it lol. Min scout=best scout at using gimped weapons in the game Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6570	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:19:00 - [27] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: True Adamance wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: True Adamance wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Tile says it all. a Far cry from my 300 eHP Gal Scout for 1.8 lol. Peace, Godin Your Gal scout can have 1000+ HP next build stop bitching. With smaller frame and both radar and physical invisibleness Plus 3 inherent armour reps per sec and better biotics stats than an Gal Assault. Gal Scout = best assault in the game. Sorry had to correct it lol. Min scout=best scout at using gimped weapons in the game Hardly. Miss perhaps 100 HP total and you are able to then move faster, equip ADV + weapons, and still have about 900HP "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 847	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:29:00 - [28] - Quote gimped? knives are scary if you can get to really use them. and man will they be hated in 1.8. can you imagine? 380(minimum on a full contact at proto) damage and the ability to close distance with ease(cloaks) Since there's supposedly no delay between changing and being able to swing, I sense a string of battlefield shankings out of nowhere in the future. heavy guarding the point? cloak, get nice and cozy, switch, charge for 1/2 a second, and gut his logi, then recloak. wait, decloak, charge, headslash(yes, they get a headshot bonus.) instanthack the point.(5 min scout and a codebreaker? cuts time roughly in half or even less(4-ish seconds if my math is right?(10% suit bonus, 25% skill, 25% codebreaker, 10% skill to use codebreaker.) then ghost up and either leave, or wait for some poor sap to try and backhack it. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Yelhsa Jin-Mao TheLostLegion 269	Posted - 2014.02.04 04:00:00 - [29] - Quote One RE and a charged shot from my Templar Scrambler Rifle and you can kiss your proto Gallente sentinel ass goodbye to a dropsuit fitting that will cost me only 1500 ISK per suit (an extensive BPO collection is a wonderful thing) I can has ISK
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 140	Posted - 2014.02.04 04:44:00 - [30] - Quote This is good it's becoming more like eve. Now we need resistances on all suits with resistance skills and resistance modules.



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