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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
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Posted - 2014.02.04 23:22:00 -
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xSir Campsalotx wrote:CCP just took OP to a whole new level, CR 1000 dps enough said rail rifle twice range of AR same dps enough said
Where are people getting this figure from! *throws his hands up in frustration* with two damage mods and prof 5 it's only 630 something (don't remember the exact number from the original calculations I did). You guys exaggerate stuff way to much. Like this whole RR/CR is OP thing going on right here. Neither of the weapons is "OP. Currently there is an imbalance between three of the assault type weapons (i.e. RR, CR, and ScR) and the remaining weapon: the AR or plasma rifle.it is an imbalance and nothing more. As well, there is an imbalance between the niche weapons and the assault types. Again nothing more than an imbalance. These imbalances can be solved quite easily with quite small and rather simple mathematical tweaks, and this can be done very simply by buffing the weapons that are currently "suffering from the imbalance". This is something that CCP is already in the process of doing. We all know of the recent HMG buff. Many of you have heard that the LR will soon be receiving a buff. I imagine that the MD, SG and FL will also be receiving buffs. The idea here is that it is more fun to buff than it is to nerf, and there is literally no difference when done right. Obviously CCP knew how we felt about the state of the AR before the release of the RR and CR. As well it is quite obvious that CCP did not miss the fact that these new weapons are quite simply better than the AR. This tells me that things are going to be changing to be balanced around the new TTK brought to us by the introduction of these new weapons.
The actual problem that you guy keep mistakenly crying about, has absolutely nothing to do with the balance of these weapons, or lack there of, for the most part at least. What it actually has to do with is TTK. I don have a problem with the current TTK, but many apparently do. And in addition to feeling the imbalance in the weapons you also feel cheated further by TTK and in transference these feelings get imparted to the weapons you don't use. Use an RR? I'll bet that you think the CR/ScR are OP. Use a ScR? I'll bet that you think the RR and CR are OP. Use a AR? Well... You see where this is going. The truth is that the ScR, CR, and RR are incredibly nearly balanceced with each other, with the ScR pulling slightly ahead of the other two. I feel comfortable saying this because I have no particular predisposition to any of these weapons. I am prof 4 with all of them. I have no particular attachment here.
THE PROBLEM. Address the problem! The problem is TTK not the balance of the weapons. So quite making it a OP/nerf issue. Because that is obviously not the way CCP is planning to go. The are quite obviously going the buff rout. Why because it doesn't make people overly upset. It is more fun.
TTK is in the process of being fix, prof skill tweaking, damage mod tweaking, scout slot buff, sentinel resistance buff, assault mod buff. Give it some more time. As far as I can see things seem to be going in a very good direction. You guys just need to wake up and smell the coffee. And for god's sake stop trying to brake other people's stuff for completely irrational reasons.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.04 23:44:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:The reason most of us ratified the wait with is:" At least they are taking their time with these weapons so they aren't unbalanced or terrible." boy were we ******* wrong
Those two weapons got delayed twice because it wasn't where they wanted it...
Let that sink in for a second. I get the same results from all 3 assault weapons, don't have AR so cant comment on that one. Quote:The actual problem that you guy keep mistakenly crying about, has absolutely nothing to do with the balance of these weapons, or lack there of, for the most part at least. What it actually has to do with is TTK. I don have a problem with the current TTK, but many apparently do. And in addition to feeling the imbalance in the weapons you also feel cheated further by TTK and in transference these feelings get imparted to the weapons you don't use. Use an RR? I'll bet that you think the CR/ScR are OP. Use a ScR? I'll bet that you think the RR and CR are OP. Use a AR? Well... You see where this is going. The truth is that the ScR, CR, and RR are incredibly nearly balanceced with each other, with the ScR pulling slightly ahead of the other two. I feel comfortable saying this because I have no particular predisposition to any of these weapons. I am prof 4 with all of them. I have no particular attachment here.
THE PROBLEM. Address the problem! The problem is TTK not the balance of the weapons. So quite making it a OP/nerf issue. Because that is obviously not the way CCP is planning to go. The are quite obviously going the buff rout. Why because it doesn't make people overly upset. It is more fun.
TTK is in the process of being fix, prof skill tweaking, damage mod tweaking, scout slot buff, sentinel resistance buff, assault mod buff. Give it some more time. As far as I can see things seem to be going in a very good direction. You guys just need to wake up and smell the coffee. And for god's sake stop trying to brake other people's stuff for completely irrational reasons. If they fix TTK back to chromo levels, it will only mean that most of us that can get 60-70+ kills a game, will ofcourse get less kills, but we will practically never die anymore, mediocre players cannot keep their crosshairs trained long enough on target to score a kill, back in chromo i ran back to back 0 death games with 20-30 kills, with the fast TTK its shifted to 40-50 kills but with 3-7 deaths, if i got killed 2-3 times it was considered a horrible game.
Quite right. And like I said, I don't have a problem with the current TTK.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.05 00:36:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:D legendary hero wrote:xSir Campsalotx wrote:CCP just took OP to a whole new level, CR 1000 dps enough said rail rifle twice range of AR same dps enough said but scrambler rifle is still better than both even close range... proficiency 5 a stand scrambler does 100+ damage per shot without charge to ARMOR. think about that for a second. The only rifle that does that kind of damage is the CR in a burst. ScR (on Amarr Assault) caps out at 113 per shot. So 90 damage per shot against armour. The RR, incidentally, deals, under the same circumstances, 94 damage per shot against armour.
CR time to fire one burst: 0.22777778 seconds
ScR time to fire a shot: 0.125 seconds
With prof 5 and two damage mods the ScR does 107.51 damage per round at proto type. This means that in the time it takes to fire one burst from the CR, the ScR will deal 195.92 damage. So... What where you saying again?
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