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Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 663	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:27:00 - [31] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Honestly, a reset -might- be a good thing. Everyone's on the same level as each other, PC will be set level, FW will be even. Pubs won't be stomped. Of course you'd be having a max exodus of players greater than Moses leading the Jews from Jerusalem.(i can say that, right?) Soo... No. Edit: not to mention the loss of boosters spent, which might start a large influx of lawsuits. read the EULA, that you & EVERYONE agreed to... u cant sue, sew, sui, sioux, soo, nor siew Won't stop them from complaining to sony, and still trying to Sioux. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) Selling SP: 10k SP per 100k ISK.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5639	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:37:00 - [32] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Honestly, a reset -might- be a good thing. Everyone's on the same level as each other, PC will be set level, FW will be even. Pubs won't be stomped. Of course you'd be having a max exodus of players greater than Moses leading the Jews from Jerusalem.(i can say that, right?) Soo... No. Edit: not to mention the loss of boosters spent, which might start a large influx of lawsuits. Plus the precedent you set that resets are necessary to keep new players balanced with vets. Never forget May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 326	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:40:00 - [33] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: CaoticFox wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Honestly, a reset -might- be a good thing. Everyone's on the same level as each other, PC will be set level, FW will be even. Pubs won't be stomped. Of course you'd be having a max exodus of players greater than Moses leading the Jews from Jerusalem.(i can say that, right?) Soo... No. Edit: not to mention the loss of boosters spent, which might start a large influx of lawsuits. read the EULA, that you & EVERYONE agreed to... u cant sue, sew, sui, sioux, soo, nor siew Won't stop them from complaining to sony, and still trying to Sioux. i can sew Who wants some?
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 194	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:42:00 - [34] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Honestly, a reset -might- be a good thing. Everyone's on the same level as each other, PC will be set level, FW will be even. Pubs won't be stomped. Of course you'd be having a max exodus of players greater than Moses leading the Jews from Jerusalem.(i can say that, right?) Soo... No. Edit: not to mention the loss of boosters spent, which might start a large influx of lawsuits. If CCP reset (as long as they refunded all my AUR spent on boosters), I'd be fine with it, but it would only really work in combination with the implementation of tiercide, or meta-level based pub matches, otherwise there would be no point -- we'd be back in the same boat a year later. That being said, I don't view the massive exodus of protostomping bittervets that would ensue be necessarily a bad thing for Dust. I think there'd be enough new blood to sustain the game, after redberries find that they won't be stomped into jam. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1181	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:14:00 - [35] - Quote Ion Crush wrote: Partial respec maybe. Total respec, no. Just no. That will just encourage more FOTM attitude and calls for more respecs when anything gets released. If a reset, I'd just quit. You mean like my Minmatar logi that got screwed over with the new changes? Or my Minmatar assault that got scrwed over with the changes? Or how about my proto investments in SL, AV grenades, md, shotguns and my fav lasers?? Get it in your head that some folks refuse to run op stuff. If it takes no skill to get a kill then its not a kill. Now pardon me while I go wonder if nova knifes are going to be my primary in 1.8 Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 141	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:28:00 - [36] - Quote If the rumors about changing the price of the 'Specialty Dropsuits' (such as the Commando, but the rest as well) and 'balancing' this with an increase in SP cost of the associated skills in question, it seems a horrible inevitability that Infantry Dropsuits will be refunded. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Shiruba Ryou 193	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:35:00 - [37] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: because its only fair... better yet... id be ok with a RESET!!! You reset me I leave. Been grinding this character for a year buying boosters out the ass. The only thing keeping me here is the fact that I've spent to much into this character. "Not to worry. The cards say you loved it." `- Ryoutoshi`
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4363	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:35:00 - [38] - Quote NK Scout wrote: CaoticFox wrote: because its only fair... better yet... id be ok with a RESET!!! Respec is better I I got sent to 500k sp I'd quit. Same here. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 163	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:24:00 - [39] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Ion Crush wrote: Partial respec maybe. Total respec, no. Just no. That will just encourage more FOTM attitude and calls for more respecs when anything gets released. If a reset, I'd just quit. You mean like my Minmatar logi that got screwed over with the new changes? Or my Minmatar assault that got scrwed over with the changes? Or how about my proto investments in SL, AV grenades, md, shotguns and my fav lasers?? Get it in your head that some folks refuse to run op stuff. If it takes no skill to get a kill then its not a kill. Now pardon me while I go wonder if nova knifes are going to be my primary in 1.8 u r a SCRUB, then... sum1 COPY/PASTE that definition for me Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game.
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 35	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:25:00 - [40] - Quote Lol, if there was a reset there would be nowhere CCP employees could hide from my wrath.

CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 163	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:26:00 - [41] - Quote Shiruba Ryou wrote: CaoticFox wrote: because its only fair... better yet... id be ok with a RESET!!! You reset me I leave. Been grinding this character for a year buying boosters out the ass. The only thing keeping me here is the fact that I've spent to much into this character. ul not be the 1st, nor the last. Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game.
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 909	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:27:00 - [42] - Quote lol really?...... and. i. would also like a respec. - LOGI REGISTRY, *LIBRARY, AND H.O.F. -
Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:31:00 - [43] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: Scott Knight wrote: CaoticFox wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Reset doesn't even make any sense. Why would you want to start over from nothing? Even if you made bad investments, they are still something. create an email for an alt psn... play it SOLELY for 1 month, just as much as u would your main (DONT PLAY THE MAIN)... THEN , & ONLY THEN will u understand No... Just No. I made an alt which is basically the same thing. You DO NOT NEED A RESET. You just need to practice more and figure out how to earn war points apart from just killing things. I still do about the same with my alt as my character with 12 million skill points. And if you do a reset, then I better get a refund for every penny I've spent to earn my skill points. Further, you would have to do a reset every three to six months. The game has only been around for about a year and people already have 30 mil+ If you do a reset then you might as well forget skill points completely and let everyone run proto gear right out of the gate. But those new players will still die a painful horrible death because it takes skill to play games. practice more... LOL... 24mil SP (4PRO SUITS : ADV ALL WEAPONS "4PRO")... 2.0 kdr (LOGI) PRO ALL UPGRADES : ADV ALL EQUIPMENT... to think... some have over 6mil MORE than me... RE-SET! Then why in the world do you need a reset?
Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:38:00 - [44] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Honestly, a reset -might- be a good thing. Everyone's on the same level as each other, PC will be set level, FW will be even. Pubs won't be stomped. Of course you'd be having a max exodus of players greater than Moses leading the Jews from Jerusalem.(i can say that, right?) Soo... No. Edit: not to mention the loss of boosters spent, which might start a large influx of lawsuits. read the EULA, that you & EVERYONE agreed to... u cant sue, sew, sui, sioux, soo, nor siew If the action is illegal you can sue regardless of the EULA PLUS Parents didn't sign the EULA and anyone under 18 can not under any circumstances agree to a contract. So if a parents money was spent on an item, they are not bound by the EULA, and anyone under 18 was not capable of agreeing to the contract in the first place, so lawsuits could still happen, especially from parents. Further a lawsuit does not require that you actually be entitled to one. I could sue you right now for some silly reason and we would both go to court. Yes I would lose the lawsuit (I hope.. I mean a lady sued and won cause her coffee was hot) but it would still (if you were CCP) cost you a fortune in money. Especially if you are CCP and have to get an American Lawyer and so fourth. Also there may be other countries where the EULA wouldn't allow the removal of services that were bought. So you can not make a contract that contains something illegal. So if the court believes that buying a skill point booster and then having those skills gained removed, then CCP would be liable regardless of the EULA. Not to mention no one in their right mind would ever buy a Booster from CCP again if everything was just going to be reset. CCP would have to essentially refund every single booster that people bought, which would cost them a ton of money in the long run since that is the only reasonable thing to spend AUR on anyways.
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 164	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:39:00 - [45] - Quote Scott Knight wrote: CaoticFox wrote: Scott Knight wrote: CaoticFox wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Reset doesn't even make any sense. Why would you want to start over from nothing? Even if you made bad investments, they are still something. create an email for an alt psn... play it SOLELY for 1 month, just as much as u would your main (DONT PLAY THE MAIN)... THEN , & ONLY THEN will u understand No... Just No. I made an alt which is basically the same thing. You DO NOT NEED A RESET. You just need to practice more and figure out how to earn war points apart from just killing things. I still do about the same with my alt as my character with 12 million skill points. And if you do a reset, then I better get a refund for every penny I've spent to earn my skill points. Further, you would have to do a reset every three to six months. The game has only been around for about a year and people already have 30 mil+ If you do a reset then you might as well forget skill points completely and let everyone run proto gear right out of the gate. But those new players will still die a painful horrible death because it takes skill to play games. practice more... LOL... 24mil SP (4PRO SUITS : ADV ALL WEAPONS "4PRO")... 2.0 kdr (LOGI) PRO ALL UPGRADES : ADV ALL EQUIPMENT... to think... some have over 6mil MORE than me... RE-SET! Then why in the world do you need a reset? the FIRST "WHY?" LOL... to BUILD a larger playerbase.. if it costs 20 whiney vets to gain 200 future vets.. "Lets do it LUNGER!" Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game.
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 164	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:42:00 - [46] - Quote Scott Knight wrote: CaoticFox wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Honestly, a reset -might- be a good thing. Everyone's on the same level as each other, PC will be set level, FW will be even. Pubs won't be stomped. Of course you'd be having a max exodus of players greater than Moses leading the Jews from Jerusalem.(i can say that, right?) Soo... No. Edit: not to mention the loss of boosters spent, which might start a large influx of lawsuits. read the EULA, that you & EVERYONE agreed to... u cant sue, sew, sui, sioux, soo, nor siew If the action is illegal you can sue regardless of the EULA PLUS Parents didn't sign the EULA and anyone under 18 can not under any circumstances agree to a contract. So if a parents money was spent on an item, they are not bound by the EULA, and anyone under 18 was not capable of agreeing to the contract in the first place, so lawsuits could still happen, especially from parents. Further a lawsuit does not require that you actually be entitled to one. I could sue you right now for some silly reason and we would both go to court. Yes I would lose the lawsuit (I hope.. I mean a lady sued and won cause her coffee was hot) but it would still (if you were CCP) cost you a fortune in money. Especially if you are CCP and have to get an American Lawyer and so fourth. Also there may be other countries where the EULA wouldn't allow the removal of services that were bought. So you can not make a contract that contains something illegal. So if the court believes that buying a skill point booster and then having those skills gained removed, then CCP would be liable regardless of the EULA. Not to mention no one in their right mind would ever buy a Booster from CCP again if everything was just going to be reset. CCP would have to essentially refund every single booster that people bought, which would cost them a ton of money in the long run since that is the only reasonable thing to spend AUR on anyways. u dont know ur laws very well... the 18- kid who accepts WITHOUT their parents permission is subject to fraud and forgery charges. IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game.
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 174	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:43:00 - [47] - Quote I'd like a respec also, but personally I can live without one. I enjoy mental challenges. Learned to work around the last FOTMs, can do it again. It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:44:00 - [48] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: [ the FIRST "WHY?" LOL... to BUILD a larger playerbase.. if it costs 20 whiney vets to gain 200 future vets.. "Lets do it LUNGER!" So you are telling me that if CCP resets the SP that you will knowingly buy boosters still? What if after you spend $2000 dollars they reset the game again? You can say good by to your 2k. Should have just bought a car.
Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:46:00 - [49] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: Scott Knight wrote: CaoticFox wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Honestly, a reset -might- be a good thing. Everyone's on the same level as each other, PC will be set level, FW will be even. Pubs won't be stomped. Of course you'd be having a max exodus of players greater than Moses leading the Jews from Jerusalem.(i can say that, right?) Soo... No. Edit: not to mention the loss of boosters spent, which might start a large influx of lawsuits. read the EULA, that you & EVERYONE agreed to... u cant sue, sew, sui, sioux, soo, nor siew If the action is illegal you can sue regardless of the EULA PLUS Parents didn't sign the EULA and anyone under 18 can not under any circumstances agree to a contract. So if a parents money was spent on an item, they are not bound by the EULA, and anyone under 18 was not capable of agreeing to the contract in the first place, so lawsuits could still happen, especially from parents. Further a lawsuit does not require that you actually be entitled to one. I could sue you right now for some silly reason and we would both go to court. Yes I would lose the lawsuit (I hope.. I mean a lady sued and won cause her coffee was hot) but it would still (if you were CCP) cost you a fortune in money. Especially if you are CCP and have to get an American Lawyer and so fourth. Also there may be other countries where the EULA wouldn't allow the removal of services that were bought. So you can not make a contract that contains something illegal. So if the court believes that buying a skill point booster and then having those skills gained removed, then CCP would be liable regardless of the EULA. Not to mention no one in their right mind would ever buy a Booster from CCP again if everything was just going to be reset. CCP would have to essentially refund every single booster that people bought, which would cost them a ton of money in the long run since that is the only reasonable thing to spend AUR on anyways. u dont know ur laws very well... the 18- kid who accepts WITHOUT their parents permission is subject to fraud and forgery charges. IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE Forgery and Fraud still does not protect CCP, and that is what we are talking about. CCP didn't even attempt to validate everyone was 18+
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 164	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:49:00 - [50] - Quote Scott Knight wrote: CaoticFox wrote: [ the FIRST "WHY?" LOL... to BUILD a larger playerbase.. if it costs 20 whiney vets to gain 200 future vets.. "Lets do it LUNGER!" So you are telling me that if CCP resets the SP that you will knowingly buy boosters still? What if after you spend $2000 dollars they reset the game again? You can say good by to your 2k. Should have just bought a car. stopped spending ANYTHING after ^^^ Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game.

Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.02.04 00:59:00 - [51] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: Scott Knight wrote: CaoticFox wrote: [ the FIRST "WHY?" LOL... to BUILD a larger playerbase.. if it costs 20 whiney vets to gain 200 future vets.. "Lets do it LUNGER!" So you are telling me that if CCP resets the SP that you will knowingly buy boosters still? What if after you spend $2000 dollars they reset the game again? You can say good by to your 2k. Should have just bought a car. stopped spending ANYTHING after ^^^ So you want CCP to tick off us 20 whiny vets who actually spend money on this game to make someone who doesn't happy? Not going to happen. Honestly a reset is going to be out of the question. A respec would be nice though.
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 530	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:04:00 - [52] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: because its only fair... better yet... id be ok with a RESET!!! You have made QUITE A FEW troll posts today. +1 for good trolling, -one for being a troll. Nuff Said
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4402	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:22:00 - [53] - Quote Scott Knight wrote: Forgery and Fraud still does not protect CCP, and that is what we are talking about. CCP didn't even attempt to validate everyone was 18+ They shouldn't have to. That's Sony's job while they're running through PSN. Any child account should EITHER have parental supervision when playing paid games OR not have payment systems set up on the account to allow money to be spent. Also, there would be grounds to sue after being promised no further resets by CCP, even if that promise isn't deemed legally binding. More importantly though, NO RESETS, AND NO FULL RESPECS that just happen randomly because everyone is complaining, but a PARTIAL respec for major changes is acceptable. When vehicles got basically re-released recently, vehicle SP was refunded (partial respec). In 1.8 it sounds like there's enough change coming that an infantry respec would be worth considering. On a technical level, it ISN'T the same kind of change that has necessitated respecs in the past, but I'm still hoping for one.
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 164	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:26:00 - [54] - Quote look @ my sig... just tallied it up JUST for this post... RE-SET Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game. as of 1920 CST USA 02-03-14 i have... 53,765,260 SP
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 148	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:32:00 - [55] - Quote A reset would be hilarious. Surprisingly enough, probably the most effective way to get a larger player base. I'll miss the millions upon millsion of SP i've worked for. Might shed half a tear even. But for some new meat on the field? You guys are great and all, we've just been having the same fight for a year now. closed beta players got another year on that. They keep track of all your boosters and such, I'm sure they can give em to you again. Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.02.04 01:33:00 - [56] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: A reset would be hilarious. Surprisingly enough, probably the most effective way to get a larger player base. I'll miss the millions upon millsion of SP i've worked for. Might shed half a tear even. But for some new meat on the field? You guys are great and all, we've just been having the same fight for a year now. closed beta players got another year on that. They keep track of all your boosters and such, I'm sure they can give em to you again. They wouldnt' do that, as it would literally keep them from earning money until everyone used up all those boosters.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Public Disorder. 1857	Posted - 2014.02.04 02:57:00 - [57] - Quote gimme Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6570	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:17:00 - [58] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: gimme Gummy Gummy Gummy! "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Espartoi Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day 85	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:23:00 - [59] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: gimme Gummy Gummy Gummy! Gummy bear? Dying must be buffed.
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 165	Posted - 2014.02.04 03:30:00 - [60] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: A reset would be hilarious. Surprisingly enough, probably the most effective way to get a larger player base. I'll miss the millions upon millsion of SP i've worked for. Might shed half a tear even. But for some new meat on the field? You guys are great and all, we've just been having the same fight for a year now. closed beta players got another year on that. They keep track of all your boosters and such, I'm sure they can give em to you again. ^^ HE understands... why am i horrible for being willing to sacrifice 53.7mil SP to HELP this game thrive? Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game. as of 1920 CST USA 02-03-14 i have... 53,765,260 SP



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