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          Ripley Riley 
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 18:03:00 -
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          Logibro and/or Saberwing, when will the community be able to see the fruits of our feedback we gave inthese threads.
  We don't necessarily need fancy .jpegs. Just a simple post will be find with me.
 "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley 
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          Galvan Nized 
          Deep Space Republic
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 18:12:00 -
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          It depends if the rework will be the final version, if it is I wouldn't suspect them to post anything until Patch notes. Remember 1.8 will be at least March, so probably a week or so before it comes out. | 
      
      
      
          
          Arkena Wyrnspire 
          Fatal Absolution
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 18:38:00 -
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          I really hope they keep the overheating bonuses for lasers on the Amarr assault and make other racial weaponry similarly synergistic with the racial assault suits. It is, IMO, the most interesting bonus type to have.
 ZATARA CARRIES US ALL 
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution 
MAG Raven 
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 18:39:00 -
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          They used our feedback pretty well with the armor plate buff.
  Oh, right...
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May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0 
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          Arkena Wyrnspire 
          Fatal Absolution
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 18:44:00 -
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:They used our feedback pretty well with the armor plate buff.
  Oh, right...  
  INB4 shield tears.
 ZATARA CARRIES US ALL 
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution 
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 18:49:00 -
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          Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:They used our feedback pretty well with the armor plate buff.
  Oh, right...  INB4 shield tears.   I'm not complaining about it. I'm just saying that we had threadnaughts about the plates (particularly about how useless reactive ones would be), and the values we gleaned off of a video remained as they were.
  The suit bonuses are probably already set in stone.
 Never forget 
May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0 
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          Arkena Wyrnspire 
          Fatal Absolution
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 18:51:00 -
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          TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:They used our feedback pretty well with the armor plate buff.
  Oh, right...  INB4 shield tears.  I'm not complaining about it. I'm just saying that we had threadnaughts about the plates (particularly about how useless reactive ones would be), and the values we gleaned off of a video remained as they were. The suit bonuses are probably already set in stone.  
  Truth.
 ZATARA CARRIES US ALL 
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution 
MAG Raven 
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          Zeylon Rho 
          Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 19:03:00 -
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          Yeah, and people have tried to draw attention to their issues since then as well.
  I think we still need to give feedback on logistics/assault changes. I'm not sure if we'll see the results of our feedback before then (or at all).
  The only thing about the Amarr Laser heat bonus on Assault that kinda bothers me is the limited utility in weapon scope compared to other races with their weapon lineups.
  The Amarr have the fewest weapon types as of 1.8 (Cal: Rail, Sniper, Bolt, Magsec; Gal: Blaster, Ion, Plasma C, Shotgun; Min: Combat, Flaylock, MD, SMG; Amarr: Scrambler Rifle/Pistol, Laser Rifle).
  A heat bonus reallly only benefits the Laser Rifle and Semi-Scram Rifle. I personally like the semi-auto Scrambler rifle a lot. However, if every other race possibly gets a benefit to 4 weapons, and the Amarr only gets a benefit to 1.5 (all Laser R, half of the Scram Rifles). It's a little awkward, and more so for the lack of weapon variety for the Amarr.
  The bonus is great for people that main a semi-auto Scrambler, and might be useful if the Laser Rifle is fixed as well. I'm not sure if that would be too niche if the other races get some wonder-bonuses though. I DO think a RoF bonus to just lasers would be very backward though (I'm not sure how that would work in practice with the LR either).
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          KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf 
          Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 19:09:00 -
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          Zeylon Rho wrote:Yeah, and people have tried to draw attention to their issues since then as well.I think we still need to give feedback on logistics/assault changes. I'm not sure if we'll see the results of our feedback before then (or at all). The only thing about the Amarr Laser heat bonus on Assault that kinda bothers me is the limited utility in weapon scope compared to other races with their weapon lineups. The Amarr have the fewest weapon types as of 1.8 (Cal: Rail, Sniper, Bolt, Magsec; Gal: Blaster, Ion, Plasma C, Shotgun; Min: Combat, Flaylock, MD, SMG; Amarr: Scrambler Rifle/Pistol, Laser Rifle). A heat bonus reallly only benefits the Laser Rifle and Semi-Scram Rifle. I personally like the semi-auto Scrambler rifle a lot. However, if every other race possibly gets a benefit to 4 weapons, and the Amarr only gets a benefit to 1.5 (all Laser R, half of the Scram Rifles). It's a little awkward, and more so for the lack of weapon variety for the Amarr. The bonus is great for people that main a semi-auto Scrambler, and might be useful if the Laser Rifle is fixed as well. I'm not sure if that would be too niche if the other races get some wonder-bonuses though. I DO think a RoF bonus to just lasers would be very backward though (I'm not sure how that would work in practice with the LR either).    Did you see my reply to this concern on my "desperate-for-attention-and-bumps-1.8-assault-bonuses" thread? here.
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          Zeylon Rho 
          Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 19:45:00 -
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          KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:Yeah, and people have tried to draw attention to their issues since then as well.I think we still need to give feedback on logistics/assault changes. I'm not sure if we'll see the results of our feedback before then (or at all). The only thing about the Amarr Laser heat bonus on Assault that kinda bothers me is the limited utility in weapon scope compared to other races with their weapon lineups. The Amarr have the fewest weapon types as of 1.8 (Cal: Rail, Sniper, Bolt, Magsec; Gal: Blaster, Ion, Plasma C, Shotgun; Min: Combat, Flaylock, MD, SMG; Amarr: Scrambler Rifle/Pistol, Laser Rifle). A heat bonus reallly only benefits the Laser Rifle and Semi-Scram Rifle. I personally like the semi-auto Scrambler rifle a lot. However, if every other race possibly gets a benefit to 4 weapons, and the Amarr only gets a benefit to 1.5 (all Laser R, half of the Scram Rifles). It's a little awkward, and more so for the lack of weapon variety for the Amarr. The bonus is great for people that main a semi-auto Scrambler, and might be useful if the Laser Rifle is fixed as well. I'm not sure if that would be too niche if the other races get some wonder-bonuses though. I DO think a RoF bonus to just lasers would be very backward though (I'm not sure how that would work in practice with the LR either).   Did you see my reply to this concern on my "desperate-for-attention-and-bumps-1.8-assault-bonuses" thread?  here.  
  Whoops, no, I didn't! 
  I think with more heat-dependent weapons introduced and an adjustment to the Assault Scrambler stats to make heat more of a factor, that bonus would work fine. I'd kind of like assurances that more weapons are in fact coming for the Amarr in the light/sidearm area though. We've yet to hear anything, not counting the nova-knife equivalent (which won't be laser-related I don't think). I've thought the Assault Scrambler needed to have more of a heat factor for awhile though (with whatever adjustments to RoF or damage to compensate). Good post!
 
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          KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf 
          Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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        Posted - 2014.02.03 19:53:00 -
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          Zeylon Rho wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:Yeah, and people have tried to draw attention to their issues since then as well.I think we still need to give feedback on logistics/assault changes. I'm not sure if we'll see the results of our feedback before then (or at all). The only thing about the Amarr Laser heat bonus on Assault that kinda bothers me is the limited utility in weapon scope compared to other races with their weapon lineups. The Amarr have the fewest weapon types as of 1.8 (Cal: Rail, Sniper, Bolt, Magsec; Gal: Blaster, Ion, Plasma C, Shotgun; Min: Combat, Flaylock, MD, SMG; Amarr: Scrambler Rifle/Pistol, Laser Rifle). A heat bonus reallly only benefits the Laser Rifle and Semi-Scram Rifle. I personally like the semi-auto Scrambler rifle a lot. However, if every other race possibly gets a benefit to 4 weapons, and the Amarr only gets a benefit to 1.5 (all Laser R, half of the Scram Rifles). It's a little awkward, and more so for the lack of weapon variety for the Amarr. The bonus is great for people that main a semi-auto Scrambler, and might be useful if the Laser Rifle is fixed as well. I'm not sure if that would be too niche if the other races get some wonder-bonuses though. I DO think a RoF bonus to just lasers would be very backward though (I'm not sure how that would work in practice with the LR either).   Did you see my reply to this concern on my "desperate-for-attention-and-bumps-1.8-assault-bonuses" thread?  here.  Whoops, no, I didn't!  I think with more heat-dependent weapons introduced and an adjustment to the Assault Scrambler stats to make heat more of a factor, that bonus would work fine. I'd kind of like assurances that more weapons are in fact coming for the Amarr in the light/sidearm area though. We've yet to hear anything, not counting the nova-knife equivalent (which won't be laser-related I don't think). I've thought the Assault Scrambler needed to have more of a heat factor for awhile though (with whatever adjustments to RoF or damage to compensate). Good post!   Thanks, hopefully this year's Fanfest will provide assurances.
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