Good idea, let's make it where playing for weeks to build up enough sp to get into a proto would be meaningless. Everyone could just spec inwe to adv suits, and spend the rest of the 2 million sp they would on proto and have a lvl 5 proficiency in their weapon of choice...then that weapon would be OP and asked to be nerfed. Then we could buff the extenders and armor to make up for Pro5 weapon...but now it doesn't do enough damage....let's create a new weapon, one that's OP as hell, and now everyone needs a proto DS to have enough HP.....
A vicious cycle. How about leaving it as is, where skill at the game itself dictates who kills who.

Clearly, you missed the point here?! Read again, and slower this time.

When i first saw the thread i had to read it because my thoughts were in line with yours. But i think this would be a move in the right direction. Not a fix, but we could build from this. Also closing the std/pro gap would build new player retention. Proto should give you an edge, not a win stick to beat people with?! I have proto too, but if that opposite team has tactics, good defenses, and team work i shouldn't be able to just walk all over them just because of some pretty suit?!

You should still have to actually use tactics along with proto man?! Doing this would make using better gear a sharp edge on your sword, but you still would need to be swordsmen! At first I thought "hello, OP weapons in this game", but then i thought about how this would help in more ways than one.

What if shield extenders and armor plates had their HP reduced by half (with some buffing to the enhanced extender) then we took that HP that was lost and add it back to the suit.

For example most suits have 4 high slots at pro level so we add to every shield suit 145 HP, then we add to every armor suit 295 HP (maybe less due to speed but higher than 145).

What this does is reduce the focus on brick tanking and make other forms of play more viable without reducing or increasing the TTK for bricked suits but increasing it for other non bricked suits.

As a side effect it also increases the TTK for suits below Proto.

Edit: A 50% reduction might be to much but it should be the highest it can go. 25% is also ideal

If the TTK is reduced by 40% and removal of AA alongside the 25% to HP sure other wise just learn how to use hit and run tactics if you use Regen/Speed/Stealth

You just described how to use a caldari suit/Gallente scout

What if shield extenders and armor plates had their HP reduced by half (with some buffing to the enhanced extender) then we took that HP that was lost and add it back to the suit.

For example most suits have 4 high slots at pro level so we add to every shield suit 145 HP, then we add to every armor suit 295 HP (maybe less due to speed but higher than 145).

What this does is reduce the focus on brick tanking and make other forms of play more viable without reducing or increasing the TTK for bricked suits but increasing it for other non bricked suits.

As a side effect it also increases the TTK for suits below Proto.

Edit: A 50% reduction might be to much but it should be the highest it can go. 25% is also ideal

What if shield extenders and armor plates had their HP reduced by half (with some buffing to the enhanced extender) then we took that HP that was lost and add it back to the suit.

For example most suits have 4 high slots at pro level so we add to every shield suit 145 HP, then we add to every armor suit 295 HP (maybe less due to speed but higher than 145).

What this does is reduce the focus on brick tanking and make other forms of play more viable without reducing or increasing the TTK for bricked suits but increasing it for other non bricked suits.

As a side effect it also increases the TTK for suits below Proto.

Edit: A 50% reduction might be to much but it should be the highest it can go. 25% is also ideal

A Complex shield extender already gives less then 1 bullets worth of HP. The basic at half hp would only provide 16hp? The Laser Rifle would do that much damage without heating up.

A Complex shield extender already gives less then 1 bullets worth of HP. The basic at half hp would only provide 16hp? The Laser Rifle would do that much damage without heating up.

Fittings should matter when making your suit.

Your changes would have damage mods being the only useful high slot, since 33hp (your complex shield extenders hp) isn't enough to stop a militia AR bullet, let alone any other weapon in the game.

Then, how do we decide how many extenders/plates to refund? Do we assume that Caldari would run nothing but extenders in the highs, and refund CalLogi 5 extenders worth of HP? Would GalLogi use only plates? Would he use a repper? Would CalLogi have used an energizer and therefore only give it 4 extenders worth of HP? How do you determine how you divvy up the hp your giving to the suits?

This is good initiative, bad judgement.

I detest this idea.

I believe it would be more balanced if it were 25% given to suit and 25% removed from plates/extenders. 50% is just too much and would make the PG/CPU cost too extreme. And looking past that it just doesn't feel right having a plate that only gives you 40 armor or a proto shield extender that only gives 33 shield...

Meh, I just hope that other fits become usable or at least good alternatives to just buffer tanking in 1.8, would be nice to see a passive repair fit that actually works :0