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Deadly Goliath Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 38	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:40:00 - [1] - Quote Hello, i heard that in 1.8 they will reduce the Logistics suits slots and their PG and CPU, but i am not sure that the source is reliable so i tough i am gonna just ask, is it true? Extermination is what i do.
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 166	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:50:00 - [2] - Quote God i hope not. My pg is topped off on some fittings already, and once i unlock lvl 5 rt im gonna need everything
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 645	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:52:00 - [3] - Quote Nobody's sure, but that's the way I'd bet. Selling dust codes!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3873	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:56:00 - [4] - Quote Oh my Glob! Deadly! It's me, Deadly! Where have you been all this time!? :'D My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 345	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:01:00 - [5] - Quote message from Godin: All we know is equipment getting slightly nerfed and each Logi getting a bonus to make each better.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 405	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:06:00 - [6] - Quote Only thing I've heard about logies is the leaked info from the test servers and I haven't read an update from that recently and none of that is really credible, also it mentions nothing about suit specifics, just the skill bonuses. If someone can find evidence of this I'll start my raging towards CCP immediately. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1530	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:06:00 - [7] - Quote I like these rumors You guys are really tremendous 1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
RedZer0 MK1 The Generals General Tso's Alliance 169	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:07:00 - [8] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: All we know is equipment getting slightly nerfed and each Logi getting a bonus to make each better. Nope, equipment is getting a 25% reduction in performance. Upon hitting level 5 in a Logi suit, your equipment will be the same as it is now, except its only the one racial specific equipment.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 8863	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:08:00 - [9] - Quote There is no solid information on the base stats of logis in 1.8. We suspect that the bonuses are changing, but there's no solid statement or information on actual changes to the class. Anything you hear is a rumour. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
RedZer0 MK1 The Generals General Tso's Alliance 169	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:13:00 - [10] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: Only thing I've heard about logies is the leaked info from the test servers and I haven't read an update from that recently and none of that is really credible, also it mentions nothing about suit specifics, just the skill bonuses. If someone can find evidence of this I'll start my raging towards CCP immediately. It's safe to assume that the reduction in CPU/pg is also coming. Since we are getting a "performance" upgrade to equipment, at the cost of the rest of our equipment. The same logic will probably be applied to our "fitting" upgrade in reduction to equipment CPU/pg.

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1378	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:20:00 - [11] - Quote i doubt it. with the many other suit buffs coming, i don't think that they will nerf the logi beyond what they're already losing. Anime > EVERYTHING
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 65	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:33:00 - [12] - Quote All I know is I'm going to be pissed if we don't get a Dropsuit respec. I don't want to skill into f*cking Rep Tools.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1889	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:38:00 - [13] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: All we know is equipment getting slightly nerfed and each Logi getting a bonus to make each better. "Better" is pretty subjective here and when accounting for the equipment nerf and the skills being removed from the line it's looking right now like a net loss in PG, CPU, and effective equipment stats. On balance, assuming no changes are made from preliminary numbers, it appears 1.8 logis will have lower eHP, some fittings shrinkage, and lower average performance from their equipment slots. 0.02 ISK Cross General note: It is however important to keep in mind the preliminary nature of these changes and the likely absence of some bits of information. Voicing a POV on the subject is good but the more constructive and specific the comments the more likely they are to be useful in the lead-up to 1.8 SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 510	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:06:00 - [14] - Quote RedZer0 MK1 wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: All we know is equipment getting slightly nerfed and each Logi getting a bonus to make each better. Nope, equipment is getting a 25% reduction in performance. Upon hitting level 5 in a Logi suit, your equipment will be the same as it is now, except its only the one racial specific equipment. so most equipment is getting nerfed... Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4362	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:11:00 - [15] - Quote RedZer0 MK1 wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: All we know is equipment getting slightly nerfed and each Logi getting a bonus to make each better. Nope, equipment is getting a 25% reduction in performance. Upon hitting level 5 in a Logi suit, your equipment will be the same as it is now, except its only the one racial specific equipment. So basically if you want to be even slightly helpful you have to "Go Proto or Go Home?" Did CCP even think about the new players? You know, the ones who can't even fathom having a PRO dropsuit? Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 138	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:11:00 - [16] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: i doubt it. with the many other suit buffs coming, i don't think that they will nerf the logi beyond what they're already losing. 2 words: "Flay", and "Lock" The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6487	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:11:00 - [17] - Quote Deadly Goliath wrote: Hello, i heard that in 1.8 they will reduce the Logistics suits slots and their PG and CPU, but i am not sure that the source is reliable so i tough i am gonna just ask, is it true? Not sure but is that such a bad thing? No logi suit needs more slots than its assault counterpart to do its job. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4362	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:16:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Deadly Goliath wrote: Hello, i heard that in 1.8 they will reduce the Logistics suits slots and their PG and CPU, but i am not sure that the source is reliable so i tough i am gonna just ask, is it true? Not sure but is that such a bad thing? No logi suit needs more slots than its assault counterpart to do its job. If we are going to serve as a medic to everyone, then we need to be able to survive long enough to actually be a medic. Otherwise, we are needing another logi to 'logi' the first logi, which is counter-productive. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Asterion Cretos DUST University Ivy League 101	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:20:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: RedZer0 MK1 wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: All we know is equipment getting slightly nerfed and each Logi getting a bonus to make each better. Nope, equipment is getting a 25% reduction in performance. Upon hitting level 5 in a Logi suit, your equipment will be the same as it is now, except its only the one racial specific equipment. So basically if you want to be even slightly helpful you have to "Go Proto or Go Home?" Did CCP even think about the new players? You know, the ones who can't even fathom having a PRO dropsuit? If this turns out to be true, I'm taking my 800K SP elsewhere. GG CCP (If it's true) I would rather die my way than live by yours.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6329	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:22:00 - [20] - Quote Based on the new stats we were given for Sentinels, Commandos, and Scouts, all the suits on that list that are currently in the game we given new slot layouts and CPU/PG values. Nothing confirmed for Logistics yet, but I wouldn't say it's too far fetched to believe they will be getting new numbers as well. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open

True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6526	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:49:00 - [21] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Deadly Goliath wrote: Hello, i heard that in 1.8 they will reduce the Logistics suits slots and their PG and CPU, but i am not sure that the source is reliable so i tough i am gonna just ask, is it true? Not sure but is that such a bad thing? No logi suit needs more slots than its assault counterpart to do its job. If we are going to serve as a medic to everyone, then we need to be able to survive long enough to actually be a medic. Otherwise, we are needing another logi to 'logi' the first logi, which is counter-productive. Why? You don't need massive HP to be a medic....Bf4 proves that medics/medic kits in that game are devastatingly good. All you need is a moderately mobile suit, decent equipment (which you should be taking anyway) and decent regen oriented fits. You stay out of the way if possible, rezing and repping players only when they have decent survival margin. You are not there to fight, you are there to make others fight better. Don't ever thing you are some kind of attacking player, that's just not your job. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
RedZer0 MK1 The Generals General Tso's Alliance 170	Posted - 2014.02.03 04:23:00 - [22] - Quote Good luck having medics that live long enough to, you know, do medic stuff.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1822	Posted - 2014.02.03 04:59:00 - [23] - Quote No doubt they will reduce the fitting power of the suits so that, coupled with the equipment fitting bonus, you should still be able to put together a decent actual logi suit but not have as much flexibility to build, say, a killer bee suit. Shouldn't affect the proper logis much, IF CCP doesn't go overboard with the CPU/PG reduction, which we all know is about a 50/50 shot, sadly. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.1 Amarr victor!
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 148	Posted - 2014.02.03 05:21:00 - [24] - Quote If they hit it too hard I may have to abandon my high slots. I don't really care for the whole "slayer logi" thing but when the only thing I can reasonably use my high slots for is damage or shields mods and I don't have anything into shields I am forced to use damage mods. Honestly, there is one armor fit; damage mods in highs and armor in lows. Shield extenders < Damage mods so don't try that either. In reality shields have all the variety right now, HP in high slots and you can do all kinds of things with your lows if you really wanted too. Arguably though it's irrelevant because armor/damage mods beats shields/anything, baring odd cases probably more akin to skill than suit setup.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 407	Posted - 2014.02.03 05:34:00 - [25] - Quote RedZer0 MK1 wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: Only thing I've heard about logies is the leaked info from the test servers and I haven't read an update from that recently and none of that is really credible, also it mentions nothing about suit specifics, just the skill bonuses. If someone can find evidence of this I'll start my raging towards CCP immediately. It's safe to assume that the reduction in CPU/pg is also coming. Since we are getting a "performance" upgrade to equipment, at the cost of the rest of our equipment. The same logic will probably be applied to our "fitting" upgrade in reduction to equipment CPU/pg. Yeah that's dumb, the armor repair thing was enough, I need to be alive to keep my team alive and if I can't have defense I can't take many shots. News flash CCP, damage mods take up less room than shield extenders, and shield extenders are crappy anyway, ya want logies to be more defensive and less offensive? Shift some numbers to make it more costly for logies to equip damage mods, don't take away the flexibility to be able to put on ANY other mod and still use equipment. Chinese new year can't be over soon enough. I need me some patch notes. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 276	Posted - 2014.02.03 06:14:00 - [26] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: i doubt it. with the many other suit buffs coming, i don't think that they will nerf the logi beyond what they're already losing. 2 words: "Flay", and "Lock" 2 more words: "Swarm" and "Launcher" It would be wise not to nerf their life line,but dem assaults are just too pissy about anyone killing more than them. They want logis to be defenseless reping supply depots,and to not muscle in on their killing business. Yet they still get to keep an eq slot....hmm something doesn't seem fair about that. And scouts are even gaining an eq slot. It seem as if logis are slowly being phased out... Sexy jutsu Time to jaaam!
Bunny Demon Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 77	Posted - 2014.02.03 06:27:00 - [27] - Quote RedZer0 MK1 wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: All we know is equipment getting slightly nerfed and each Logi getting a bonus to make each better. Nope, equipment is getting a 25% reduction in performance. Upon hitting level 5 in a Logi suit, your equipment will be the same as it is now, except its only the one racial specific equipment. Isn't that what he said? (Just without the numbers) So.....when are the um......new dropsuits coming out CCP.....it's been a few weeks now.... ;)
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 237	Posted - 2014.02.03 08:35:00 - [28] - Quote Equipment is confirmed for nerfs in most places. Logis are getting a fitting cost reduction to equipment and a bonus to racial equip in place of existing bonuses (this is leaked from sisi and not final) it implies that because of these changes there will be a reduction to suit pg/cpu and probably slots. Logis will no longer be able to use four pieces of equip, 3+ cplx dmg mods, a proto gun and 3-5 cplx armor mods with zero drawbacks. Whining about logi changes is essentially crying 'no don't take my crutch away I need it to be good'
RedZer0 MK1 The Generals General Tso's Alliance 170	Posted - 2014.02.03 11:34:00 - [29] - Quote Bunny Demon wrote: RedZer0 MK1 wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: All we know is equipment getting slightly nerfed and each Logi getting a bonus to make each better. Nope, equipment is getting a 25% reduction in performance. Upon hitting level 5 in a Logi suit, your equipment will be the same as it is now, except its only the one racial specific equipment. Isn't that what he said? (Just without the numbers) No, logis aren't getting better, just worse. A 'slight' nerf is a misnomer.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 118	Posted - 2014.02.03 11:48:00 - [30] - Quote bamboo x wrote: All I know is I'm going to be pissed if we don't get a Dropsuit respec. I don't want to skill into f*cking Rep Tools. Nothing beats the WP bukake you get from having a Lai Dai dual healing repper on two heavies. Since the triage WP reward had the cap taken off, repair tool is one of the best ways to make WP. They also removed the guardian points cap from an orbital so if you rep the squad leader you get points for each kill. On top of that, the fact that HP bars now show when the repair tool is out makes being a triage logi a really viable role, especially in ambush. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War



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