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Imperious91
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Posted - 2014.02.02 21:41:00 -
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First and foremost I'm a tanker and love doing it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed that MLT railgun tanks do more DMG then what they're worth. We've all seen it happen or may have been the one doing it. A well fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar doing decently well in a match and pissed of a guy one to many times. This red goes and grabs himself a cheap MLT tank manages to sneak up to said tanker(It happens) and pop he's DMG mods and its lights out for the poor Gunnlogi or Madrugar.
Now I understand the need for MLT gear, dropships, and LAV's but MLT tanks in my opinion need to go. If you're not spec into tanks you shouldn't be able to use them period or at least take away MLT railgun turret. Now I know someones going to disagree with this and thats fine, because like I said 'In My Opinion' however take the time to grab a MLT Sica and stack it with two DMG mods and find yourself a enemy tanker(Sneak Attack) of any type and tell me you don't two shot him.
Now if you think its ok for a blueberry to spend under 100,000isk on something he's not spec into and take out someone who spent well over 300,000isk in something he's spec into then troll your heart away(it'll happen watch) but if you actually think thats a bit ridiculous than let it be known.
You don't know me! You don't know how many DMG mods I stack!
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
340
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Posted - 2014.02.02 21:44:00 -
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message from Godin: Damage mods and RG's, as well as Missiles are OP. Of course they are. Look who made them. Everything Caldari makes is OP. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
1368
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:16:00 -
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let me keep my jihad jeeps and you have yourself a deal.
but seriously, MLT tanks are pretty stupid. costs half the price of my proto scout but can destroy anything, including other WELL FIT tanks with ease.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
3371
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:23:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: Damage mods and RG's, as well as Missiles are OP. Of course they are. Look who made them. Everything Caldari makes is OP. Your just jealous that your primitive galente tech does not match the power of the state.
The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game.
Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1309
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:25:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: Damage mods and RG's, as well as Missiles are OP. Of course they are. Look who made them. Everything Caldari makes is OP. Your just jealous that your primitive galente tech does not match the power of the state. Are you too busy role playing to see an obvious imbalance?
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6480
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:26:00 -
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I don't dislike any turret TBH...I just think Damage modules unbalance the game.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
3371
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:28:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: Damage mods and RG's, as well as Missiles are OP. Of course they are. Look who made them. Everything Caldari makes is OP. Your just jealous that your primitive galente tech does not match the power of the state. Are you too busy role playing to see an obvious imbalance? Missiles are fine as they can't do crap vs infantry and don't have a mlt variant. As for rails, yep. The problem is mostly the damage mods though.
The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game.
Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1238
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:30:00 -
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TL / DR:
Nigh invincibility? Not easy enough. Please remove all remaining threats. So I can farm infantry uninterrupted.
- Tankers |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6481
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:32:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:TL / DR:
Nigh invincibility? Not easy enough. Please remove all remaining threats. - Tankers Man you a pretty ignorant fool aren't you? Have you not seen or are you just too blind...or stupid to not have seen the many tankers campaigning against the ridiculous state of HAV.
Myself, O'Dell (more notably), Lorhak, more are slowly coming around...so stop your bitching and support the new movement.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
406
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:36:00 -
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People need to seriously get rid of the notion that locking out the no-SP players from using certain weapons / tactics is a viable means of balancing the weapon.
What needs to happen is just a straight nerf to the Large Railgun's effectiveness. Either knock its damage back to what it was pre-1.7, adjust its range, or do something about the viability of multiple damage modded setups. Making it so that 0SP players cant use it doesn't change the fact that the weapon itself is totally over powered in its current state. What the person spent on the tank is absolutely irrelevant, you shouldn't be immune to people that put in less ISK or SP into their weapon.
Saga v. Methana Balance
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1790
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:41:00 -
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Imperious91 wrote:First and foremost I'm a tanker and love doing it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed that MLT railgun tanks do more DMG then what they're worth. We've all seen it happen or may have been the one doing it. A well fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar doing decently well in a match and pissed of a guy one to many times. This red goes and grabs himself a cheap MLT tank manages to sneak up to said tanker(It happens) and pop he's DMG mods and its lights out for the poor Gunnlogi or Madrugar. Now I understand the need for MLT gear, dropships, and LAV's but MLT tanks in my opinion need to go. If you're not spec into tanks you shouldn't be able to use them period or at least take away MLT railgun turret. Now I know someones going to disagree with this and thats fine, because like I said 'In My Opinion' however take the time to grab a MLT Sica and stack it with two DMG mods and find yourself a enemy tanker(Sneak Attack) of any type and tell me you don't two shot him. Now if you think its ok for a blueberry to spend under 100,000isk on something he's not spec into and take out someone who spent well over 300,000isk in something he's spec into then troll your heart away(it'll happen watch) but if you actually think thats a bit ridiculous than let it be known.
You know, this is the same arguement tankers gave about AV. I spent the most money why aren't I Top Dog, it's not fair
1) He is using an Anti-Vehicle Turret, therefore no matter his tier he will do well against vehicles 2) He is using damage mods, so he will do well against your hardners 3) He has snuck up on you, you are therefore fair game.
The fact that as a tanker you aren't happy it already takes a tank to kill you says it all. I'll save this as a favourite which I'll use whenever I want to prove tankers won't be happt until they are invincible.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1790
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Scout Registry wrote:TL / DR:
Nigh invincibility? Not easy enough. Please remove all remaining threats. - Tankers Man you a pretty ignorant fool aren't you? Have you not seen or are you just too blind...or stupid to not have seen the many tankers campaigning against the ridiculous state of HAV. Myself, O'Dell (more notably), Lorhak, more are slowly coming around...so stop your bitching and support the new movement.
The move nerf to move the last viable counter to Std tanks? No I'll pass, I'd rather ALL tanks were balanced.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1238
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Scout Registry wrote:TL / DR:
Nigh invincibility? Not easy enough. Please remove all remaining threats. - Tankers Man you a pretty ignorant fool aren't you? Have you not seen or are you just too blind...or stupid to not have seen the many tankers campaigning against the ridiculous state of HAV. Myself, O'Dell (more notably), Lorhak, more are slowly coming around...so stop your bitching and support the new movement.
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
267
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:54:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:TL / DR:
Nigh invincibility? Not easy enough. Please remove all remaining threats. Starting with Militia Rail Tanks. So we can farm infantry uninterrupted.
- Tankers
* True Adamance, O'Dell, Legend and a handful of others do not support this message.
sadly, some tankers are deluded. They really do want no counter to tanks.if you get popped by a mlt tank take it like a man. Stop crying and get your own mlt tank. You don't have to rock the most expensive fit you own in pubs.
I am the real Darken
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1709
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:04:00 -
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Imperious91 wrote:First and foremost I'm a tanker and love doing it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed that MLT railgun tanks do more DMG then what they're worth. We've all seen it happen or may have been the one doing it. A well fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar doing decently well in a match and pissed of a guy one to many times. This red goes and grabs himself a cheap MLT tank manages to sneak up to said tanker(It happens) and pop he's DMG mods and its lights out for the poor Gunnlogi or Madrugar. Now I understand the need for MLT gear, dropships, and LAV's but MLT tanks in my opinion need to go. If you're not spec into tanks you shouldn't be able to use them period or at least take away MLT railgun turret. Now I know someones going to disagree with this and thats fine, because like I said 'In My Opinion' however take the time to grab a MLT Sica and stack it with two DMG mods and find yourself a enemy tanker(Sneak Attack) of any type and tell me you don't two shot him. Now if you think its ok for a blueberry to spend under 100,000isk on something he's not spec into and take out someone who spent well over 300,000isk in something he's spec into then troll your heart away(it'll happen watch) but if you actually think thats a bit ridiculous than let it be known.
question, do you think it's fair for a newb in a free suit to kill a proto bear in 220k isk suit?
should we stop this from ever happening? |
jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
141
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:06:00 -
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Op pretty much nailed it in regards to the why and how, as for the "poor gunlogi madrugar" bit they deserve it if u ask me.
This game should be fluid and the battle constantly evolving if ur doing it right, if ur going to try and make one tank last the whole match and never do anything else, then yer ppl are going to notice the big, loud, scary tank repetedly smooshing their team and try to counter you.
What your not getting is that most of the ppl who are smart enough to pull a dmg modded mlt rail sica, are most likely doing it out of nessesity rather than for the joy of driving/destroying tanks, and would much rather be with their teammates trying to push an objective.
Now why should you make it easy for them? You shouldn't... juice those berries! But, at the same time you can't expect to be the biggest badest guy in the match and not incur some form of retaliation. Maybe just recall your tank and help ur team for a bit, inbetween splattering waves of enemies and they won't bother/have a chance to take it from you.
Soblem prolved :)
Less QQ more PewPew
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
267
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:06:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Imperious91 wrote:First and foremost I'm a tanker and love doing it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed that MLT railgun tanks do more DMG then what they're worth. We've all seen it happen or may have been the one doing it. A well fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar doing decently well in a match and pissed of a guy one to many times. This red goes and grabs himself a cheap MLT tank manages to sneak up to said tanker(It happens) and pop he's DMG mods and its lights out for the poor Gunnlogi or Madrugar. Now I understand the need for MLT gear, dropships, and LAV's but MLT tanks in my opinion need to go. If you're not spec into tanks you shouldn't be able to use them period or at least take away MLT railgun turret. Now I know someones going to disagree with this and thats fine, because like I said 'In My Opinion' however take the time to grab a MLT Sica and stack it with two DMG mods and find yourself a enemy tanker(Sneak Attack) of any type and tell me you don't two shot him. Now if you think its ok for a blueberry to spend under 100,000isk on something he's not spec into and take out someone who spent well over 300,000isk in something he's spec into then troll your heart away(it'll happen watch) but if you actually think thats a bit ridiculous than let it be known. question, do you think it's fair for a newb in a free suit to kill a proto bear in 220k isk suit? should we stop this from ever happening?
boo hoo, remove starter suits. They are not fair. It takes no sp investment for them to fire bullets at me.
I am the real Darken
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Imperious91
PAND3M0N1UM
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:09:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Imperious91 wrote:First and foremost I'm a tanker and love doing it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed that MLT railgun tanks do more DMG then what they're worth. We've all seen it happen or may have been the one doing it. A well fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar doing decently well in a match and pissed of a guy one to many times. This red goes and grabs himself a cheap MLT tank manages to sneak up to said tanker(It happens) and pop he's DMG mods and its lights out for the poor Gunnlogi or Madrugar. Now I understand the need for MLT gear, dropships, and LAV's but MLT tanks in my opinion need to go. If you're not spec into tanks you shouldn't be able to use them period or at least take away MLT railgun turret. Now I know someones going to disagree with this and thats fine, because like I said 'In My Opinion' however take the time to grab a MLT Sica and stack it with two DMG mods and find yourself a enemy tanker(Sneak Attack) of any type and tell me you don't two shot him. Now if you think its ok for a blueberry to spend under 100,000isk on something he's not spec into and take out someone who spent well over 300,000isk in something he's spec into then troll your heart away(it'll happen watch) but if you actually think thats a bit ridiculous than let it be known. You know, this is the same arguement tankers gave about AV. I spent the most money why aren't I Top Dog, it's not fair1) He is using an Anti-Vehicle Turret, therefore no matter his tier he will do well against vehicles 2) He is using damage mods, so he will do well against your hardners 3) He has snuck up on you, you are therefore fair game. The fact that as a tanker you aren't happy it already takes a tank to kill you says it all. I'll save this as a favourite which I'll use whenever I want to prove tankers won't be happt until they are invincible. Please understand what I'm saying its not about money at all. So what your telling me is that its ok to use tanks without the proper skills spec into it. AV grenades are something you must spec into, but to give the ability to get a Tank without skills thats just stupid. You hear all the time that tanks are OP so why make them so easy to obtain i.e. MLT
You don't know me! You don't know how many DMG mods I stack!
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Imperious91
PAND3M0N1UM
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:17:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Imperious91 wrote:First and foremost I'm a tanker and love doing it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed that MLT railgun tanks do more DMG then what they're worth. We've all seen it happen or may have been the one doing it. A well fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar doing decently well in a match and pissed of a guy one to many times. This red goes and grabs himself a cheap MLT tank manages to sneak up to said tanker(It happens) and pop he's DMG mods and its lights out for the poor Gunnlogi or Madrugar. Now I understand the need for MLT gear, dropships, and LAV's but MLT tanks in my opinion need to go. If you're not spec into tanks you shouldn't be able to use them period or at least take away MLT railgun turret. Now I know someones going to disagree with this and thats fine, because like I said 'In My Opinion' however take the time to grab a MLT Sica and stack it with two DMG mods and find yourself a enemy tanker(Sneak Attack) of any type and tell me you don't two shot him. Now if you think its ok for a blueberry to spend under 100,000isk on something he's not spec into and take out someone who spent well over 300,000isk in something he's spec into then troll your heart away(it'll happen watch) but if you actually think thats a bit ridiculous than let it be known. question, do you think it's fair for a newb in a free suit to kill a proto bear in 220k isk suit? should we stop this from ever happening? How can you even begin to compare a starter fit to a MLT tank? Stay gone plz
You don't know me! You don't know how many DMG mods I stack!
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
271
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:34:00 -
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Imperious91 wrote:calisk galern wrote:Imperious91 wrote:First and foremost I'm a tanker and love doing it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed that MLT railgun tanks do more DMG then what they're worth. We've all seen it happen or may have been the one doing it. A well fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar doing decently well in a match and pissed of a guy one to many times. This red goes and grabs himself a cheap MLT tank manages to sneak up to said tanker(It happens) and pop he's DMG mods and its lights out for the poor Gunnlogi or Madrugar. Now I understand the need for MLT gear, dropships, and LAV's but MLT tanks in my opinion need to go. If you're not spec into tanks you shouldn't be able to use them period or at least take away MLT railgun turret. Now I know someones going to disagree with this and thats fine, because like I said 'In My Opinion' however take the time to grab a MLT Sica and stack it with two DMG mods and find yourself a enemy tanker(Sneak Attack) of any type and tell me you don't two shot him. Now if you think its ok for a blueberry to spend under 100,000isk on something he's not spec into and take out someone who spent well over 300,000isk in something he's spec into then troll your heart away(it'll happen watch) but if you actually think thats a bit ridiculous than let it be known. question, do you think it's fair for a newb in a free suit to kill a proto bear in 220k isk suit? should we stop this from ever happening? How can you even begin to compare a starter fit to a MLT tank? Stay gone plz
its the MLT variant of basic gear, same as a sica is to gunnlogi. How can you not see that?
I am the real Darken
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6483
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:39:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Imperious91 wrote:calisk galern wrote:Imperious91 wrote:First and foremost I'm a tanker and love doing it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed that MLT railgun tanks do more DMG then what they're worth. We've all seen it happen or may have been the one doing it. A well fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar doing decently well in a match and pissed of a guy one to many times. This red goes and grabs himself a cheap MLT tank manages to sneak up to said tanker(It happens) and pop he's DMG mods and its lights out for the poor Gunnlogi or Madrugar. Now I understand the need for MLT gear, dropships, and LAV's but MLT tanks in my opinion need to go. If you're not spec into tanks you shouldn't be able to use them period or at least take away MLT railgun turret. Now I know someones going to disagree with this and thats fine, because like I said 'In My Opinion' however take the time to grab a MLT Sica and stack it with two DMG mods and find yourself a enemy tanker(Sneak Attack) of any type and tell me you don't two shot him. Now if you think its ok for a blueberry to spend under 100,000isk on something he's not spec into and take out someone who spent well over 300,000isk in something he's spec into then troll your heart away(it'll happen watch) but if you actually think thats a bit ridiculous than let it be known. question, do you think it's fair for a newb in a free suit to kill a proto bear in 220k isk suit? should we stop this from ever happening? How can you even begin to compare a starter fit to a MLT tank? Stay gone plz its the MLT variant of basic gear, same as a sica is to gunnlogi. How can you not see that?
Not really. Typically speaking the Proto variant is superior as it has vastly more module slots.
The Sica is to Gunlogi as MLT is to STD.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1709
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:43:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Imperious91 wrote:calisk galern wrote:Imperious91 wrote:First and foremost I'm a tanker and love doing it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed that MLT railgun tanks do more DMG then what they're worth. We've all seen it happen or may have been the one doing it. A well fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar doing decently well in a match and pissed of a guy one to many times. This red goes and grabs himself a cheap MLT tank manages to sneak up to said tanker(It happens) and pop he's DMG mods and its lights out for the poor Gunnlogi or Madrugar. Now I understand the need for MLT gear, dropships, and LAV's but MLT tanks in my opinion need to go. If you're not spec into tanks you shouldn't be able to use them period or at least take away MLT railgun turret. Now I know someones going to disagree with this and thats fine, because like I said 'In My Opinion' however take the time to grab a MLT Sica and stack it with two DMG mods and find yourself a enemy tanker(Sneak Attack) of any type and tell me you don't two shot him. Now if you think its ok for a blueberry to spend under 100,000isk on something he's not spec into and take out someone who spent well over 300,000isk in something he's spec into then troll your heart away(it'll happen watch) but if you actually think thats a bit ridiculous than let it be known. question, do you think it's fair for a newb in a free suit to kill a proto bear in 220k isk suit? should we stop this from ever happening? How can you even begin to compare a starter fit to a MLT tank? Stay gone plz its the MLT variant of basic gear, same as a sica is to gunnlogi. How can you not see that? Not really. Typically speaking the Proto variant is superior as it has vastly more module slots. The Sica is to Gunlogi as MLT is to STD.
first off I haven't been gone, not sure why you'd think that I haven't failed to cap out once in the last year.
at best I just don't care about any of my matches anymore because of tank spam, I still don't mind removing your proto heavy with simple re's.
regardless his argument is that militia tanks should be changed because they take no sp and nearly no isk and are capable of dealing with proto tanks.
well sir then I use the same argument for militia suits, they cost near to no isk and yet are capable of killing proto suits that cost virtually the same amount of isk as a proto tank and do it with no sp.
and just so you know specced tanks are far superior to militia tanks even in his example it required the tank to catch him from behind, the fact that he said that means that he knows a militia tank will never beat a pro tanker in a front on battle.
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Magewarlord
Contract Hunters
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:50:00 -
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well if you get snuck up on then you're gonna get killed |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
345
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Posted - 2014.02.03 00:11:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: Damage mods and RG's, as well as Missiles are OP. Of course they are. Look who made them. Everything Caldari makes is OP. Your just jealous that your primitive galente tech does not match the power of the state.
message from godin: Without the Gallente, your tech wouldn't even exist. Also, technically, you're tech is far more primative than ours. We have rails and missiles already IRL, but using drones or plasma to go pew pew at someone on a massive scale is not heard of. So yea, your argument just fell in a hole and died.
EDIT: Also, the only reason why missiles aren't seen as OP is because, like you said, there' sno MLT variant. if there was, you would actually see it. A lot. because, you know, they are OP. |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6485
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Posted - 2014.02.03 00:17:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: Damage mods and RG's, as well as Missiles are OP. Of course they are. Look who made them. Everything Caldari makes is OP. Your just jealous that your primitive galente tech does not match the power of the state. message from godin: Without the Gallente, your tech wouldn't even exist. Also, technically, you're tech is far more primative than ours. We have rails and missiles already IRL, but using drones or plasma to go pew pew at someone on a massive scale is not heard of. So yea, your argument just fell in a hole and died. EDIT: Also, the only reason why missiles aren't seen as OP is because, like you said, there' sno MLT variant. if there was, you would actually see it. A lot. because, you know, they are OP. Without the Amarr I doubt you'd even exist....much less be sane enough to function effectively in New Eden.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1709
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Posted - 2014.02.03 00:20:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: Damage mods and RG's, as well as Missiles are OP. Of course they are. Look who made them. Everything Caldari makes is OP. Your just jealous that your primitive galente tech does not match the power of the state. message from godin: Without the Gallente, your tech wouldn't even exist. Also, technically, you're tech is far more primative than ours. We have rails and missiles already IRL, but using drones or plasma to go pew pew at someone on a massive scale is not heard of. So yea, your argument just fell in a hole and died. EDIT: Also, the only reason why missiles aren't seen as OP is because, like you said, there' sno MLT variant. if there was, you would actually see it. A lot. because, you know, they are OP.
have you used missles they have a pretty big drawback.
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1793
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Posted - 2014.02.03 00:34:00 -
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Imperious91 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Imperious91 wrote:First and foremost I'm a tanker and love doing it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed that MLT railgun tanks do more DMG then what they're worth. We've all seen it happen or may have been the one doing it. A well fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar doing decently well in a match and pissed of a guy one to many times. This red goes and grabs himself a cheap MLT tank manages to sneak up to said tanker(It happens) and pop he's DMG mods and its lights out for the poor Gunnlogi or Madrugar. Now I understand the need for MLT gear, dropships, and LAV's but MLT tanks in my opinion need to go. If you're not spec into tanks you shouldn't be able to use them period or at least take away MLT railgun turret. Now I know someones going to disagree with this and thats fine, because like I said 'In My Opinion' however take the time to grab a MLT Sica and stack it with two DMG mods and find yourself a enemy tanker(Sneak Attack) of any type and tell me you don't two shot him. Now if you think its ok for a blueberry to spend under 100,000isk on something he's not spec into and take out someone who spent well over 300,000isk in something he's spec into then troll your heart away(it'll happen watch) but if you actually think thats a bit ridiculous than let it be known. You know, this is the same arguement tankers gave about AV. I spent the most money why aren't I Top Dog, it's not fair1) He is using an Anti-Vehicle Turret, therefore no matter his tier he will do well against vehicles 2) He is using damage mods, so he will do well against your hardners 3) He has snuck up on you, you are therefore fair game. The fact that as a tanker you aren't happy it already takes a tank to kill you says it all. I'll save this as a favourite which I'll use whenever I want to prove tankers won't be happt until they are invincible. Please understand what I'm saying its not about money at all. So what your telling me is that its ok to use tanks without the proper skills spec into it. AV grenades are something you must spec into, but to give the ability to get a Tank without skills thats just stupid. You hear all the time that tanks are OP so why make them so easy to obtain i.e. MLT
Because making the harder to obtain doesn't balance them.
Well I can take a mlt front line suit and kill a proto with it, therefore I would assume its alright to get a mlt tank and blow up a protomodded hull. At least the person has to pay for the tank.
aThe thing is, so long as AV is in its current state you cannot convince me getting rid of mlt tanks is a good idea. Tankers told me to get a tank if I wanted them dead, so I did, and so did everyone else and now we have tankers complaing because they were outclassed by a mlt fit.
Mlt tanks are more of a solution then they are a problem.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Posted - 2014.02.03 00:35:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: Damage mods and RG's, as well as Missiles are OP. Of course they are. Look who made them. Everything Caldari makes is OP. Your just jealous that your primitive galente tech does not match the power of the state. message from godin: Without the Gallente, your tech wouldn't even exist. Also, technically, you're tech is far more primative than ours. We have rails and missiles already IRL, but using drones or plasma to go pew pew at someone on a massive scale is not heard of. So yea, your argument just fell in a hole and died. EDIT: Also, the only reason why missiles aren't seen as OP is because, like you said, there' sno MLT variant. if there was, you would actually see it. A lot. because, you know, they are OP. have you used missles they have a pretty big drawback. Missiles are great but it really falls onto the skill of the tanker to make them OP otherwise its horrible
You don't know me! You don't know how many DMG mods I stack!
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