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Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2014.02.02 19:47:00 -
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DUST 514 already has a little bit of segregation for the playerbase. A casual noob can't go waltzing into a Planetary Conquest match... and that's where it ends.
Now, I just hit a milestone in lifetime WP, and realized that it didn't reflect my SP. After reaching the cap for bonus SP, the most you can obtain for SP is 1000/match(1500/2000 w/ Boosters). That simply makes zero sense. If I earned 2000WP that translate into SP, than I want what I earned. This is why after caps are reached, weekly dropoff steepens, and why Tuesday is the deadest day of the week for DUST. If a Player puts there time into something, they should be rewarded.
Now, many could argue that this keeps players from running wild in gaining SP. That could be correct, but once again, it is earned. You can't AFK WP. A lot of my SP has come from after cap play. Usually 100,000SP/wk is after cap, however, it can easily be said that I've earned 300,000+ WP during that time. I am being cheated out what I've worked for. Reward me what I have earned, if that allows me or some other guy to rack up a large amount of SP, then so be it. It was earned.
This is where segregation comes in. Yes, allow me to rack up SP that I've earned, make my character into a superhero. Reward me. But don't let me use my powers on new players that for whatever reason don't have my level of time and effort put into the game. Players in public contract matches need to be segregated by WP. As warpoints are the most accurate representation of someone's playtime, skill level, and meta level. You can't separate by gear, because core skills and proficiency skills would still trump new players greatly. You can't separate by SP, because it is passively gained. A player could in theory have never played a match in his life and be bumped up to advanced levels, because he let his SP build.
Warpoints show the player's in game progress.
...oh and f*ck the Rail rifle 
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Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2014.02.03 06:10:00 -
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8UMP
Because this game is failing, and new players can't compete in it what-so-ever
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Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2014.02.03 08:21:00 -
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I'll just keep bumping this until those lazy CCP workers come back from their vacation...
Seriously, who takes a week off for a holiday? No wonder other countries suffer economically, they are plain lazy.
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Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2014.02.03 08:29:00 -
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Kaltos Darksbane wrote:SP rollover might help a little for the new players.
No, SP rollover would cause more upheaval.
Imagine not playing for 2-3 weeks and seeing a giant amount of SP that you'll never get through.
New players don't have a chance, and they aren't sticking around the game longer than 48 hours. They are 10,000,000s of SP behind, and they are getting beat into the ground. This game is impossible for new players, and that's why they are leaving. They need full-blown protection.
Go ahead and make an alt. And try playing solo as a new player would. You wouldn't last longer than 100,000WP because nobody has the insanity to put up with that.
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Posted - 2014.02.03 08:32:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Chinese holidays: 11
USA holidays: 11
I'm not sure who's lazy, but I sure do know who's ignorant.
We don't take weeks off them.
In fact America works m ore capita hours than any other country on Earth, so lazy countries can takes breaks like that.
Have you ever taken a week off for new years?
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Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2014.02.03 10:14:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:This argument is just so old. The "we care about the new players" seem to be rather cheap when if the community cares, then the community should stop entering pub matches with their ADV and PRO fits. Jump in the match with your basic MLT fits. How come that isn't being talked about? No, "its CCP stop me from murdering the new folks."
On the other side of the coin, if I didn't get my ass handed to me when I first arrived to NE, it wouldn't have made me the same merc I am today. I advocate this strongly here. It's tough but if they stick with it, they will become tougher.
Lastly, there's only one game I noticed that did the segregation thing and that was Crysis MP. Every other FPS title I've played, I've been thrown in with guys who are on their 3rd or 4th prestige or who has been playing BF for quite some time. This "rolling on the NP" just doesn't happen solely in Dust, but yea, we are not talking about that.
I don't use proto in pubs, because of my stance against proto-stomping new players. Its wrong and it's the sole factor that will kill the game.
The amount of protos in the game back when we started to now is insanely steeper. We skilled up parallel with everyone else, not players are thrown into an impossible situation.
In other games, you can level up and unlock everything in 1-2 days. in DUST its a different story. And there is not going to be a DUST 514 II for everyone to start fresh again on, like other titles. The rich and mighty will just continue to grow and the poor and weak will die away. This game already has a playerbase of a revolving door, eventually it will be just the 400 so vets on it, and at that point that game will be buried 6ft under
This issue needs to be top priority, as the game's life depends on it.
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:57:00 -
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Bumpy-bump, bump
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