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![Savage Mangler Savage Mangler](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Savage Mangler
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.01 21:59:00 -
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Discuss. I know it's asking too much, but keep it civil please.
-YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED-
"Good, then they'll know who killed them."
Keep your knives sharp....and your wits sharper.
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![Spectre-M Spectre-M](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Spectre-M
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:01:00 -
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DS occupants should be killed just like every other vehicle. LAV and tank occupants don't get grace time.
Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist
Minnmatar in Amarr Armor
I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
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![INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
236
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:04:00 -
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Spectre-M wrote:DS occupants should be killed just like every other vehicle. LAV and tank occupants don't get grace time. Agreed, plus I want a big explosion where they blow up, in the air. |
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darkiller240
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:04:00 -
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When i get shot down i usually stay in to see what killed me
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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![Smooth Assassin Smooth Assassin](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
778
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:05:00 -
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They shouldn't unless they got a eject module that lets them eject when crashing.
Assassination is my thing.
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![Smooth Assassin Smooth Assassin](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
778
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:06:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:When i get shot down i usually stay in to see what killed me Wow, amazing idea.... fascinating...
Assassination is my thing.
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![Evan Gotabor Evan Gotabor](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Evan Gotabor
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:07:00 -
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Even if people are able to leave a dropship in flame, there is a high probability for them to die because they are killed by the falling dropship.
Gallente logistic dropsuit / Dropship pilot
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![Savage Mangler Savage Mangler](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Savage Mangler
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
43
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:09:00 -
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Spectre-M wrote:DS occupants should be killed just like every other vehicle. LAV and tank occupants don't get grace time. Agreed as well. If I pop a 5 man DS, I want that juicy 325 WP payout.
-YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED-
"Good, then they'll know who killed them."
Keep your knives sharp....and your wits sharper.
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![Savage Mangler Savage Mangler](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Savage Mangler
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
43
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:11:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:They shouldn't unless they got a eject module that lets them eject when crashing. I like this. Make it an option for all vehicles. I want to see heavies get ejected bond-style out of LAV's.
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"Good, then they'll know who killed them."
Keep your knives sharp....and your wits sharper.
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darkiller240
WarRavens League of Infamy
327
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:12:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:darkiller240 wrote:When i get shot down i usually stay in to see what killed me Wow, amazing idea.... fascinating... its a militia suit i dont care
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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![knight guard fury knight guard fury](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
853
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:22:00 -
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pilots should be able to jump out of thier drop ship.
they are very weak and vulnerable to rail turrets since they are in open air
the gallente ship has its cockpit in the front so that is easy to open and jump out of while the caldari have theirs entering from within so they can just open the door and make a quick jump out the side
its not fair that ccp make you spawn onder the ds when you exit it at certain speeds (this is how they nerf the suicide dropships, called "predator missiles")
Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior
jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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![Reav Hannari Reav Hannari](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2941
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:23:00 -
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I always ride my wreck down. I can get to my vehicle call-in uplink a lot faster if I don't have to hoof it back to base.
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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CRYPT3C W0LF
MK.V
316
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:31:00 -
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Fix the rails auto killing DS and I'll be fine with going down with the ship
Ahhhh....
CPM? Nononono
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![Kallas Hallytyr Kallas Hallytyr](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
342
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:41:00 -
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Forcing pilots to remain would be perfectly fine, but Dropships have the most open troop transport areas of any vehicles currently in the game: passengers should be able to bail at a moment's notice. |
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4298
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:45:00 -
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No, they should not be able to bail.
My Swarm Launcher won the race and they were being to much of an idiot to use an afterburner. Why shouldn't they be punished for it?
Want to know how to make a strike-through?
[s[Example[/s]
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
853
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:47:00 -
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Atiim wrote:No, they should not be able to bail.
My Swarm Launcher won the race and they were being to much of an idiot to use an afterburner. Why shouldn't they be punished for it?
there are many scenario's where they should
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jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
853
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:48:00 -
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Atiim wrote:No, they should not be able to bail.
My Swarm Launcher won the race and they were being to much of an idiot to use an afterburner. Why shouldn't they be punished for it?
you dont see american soldiers staying in a plane thats going down do you?
everyone has a right to bail out of a plane and so should DS pilots and whoever they are carring
Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior
jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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![DUST Fiend DUST Fiend](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
10497
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:50:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Forcing pilots to remain would be perfectly fine, but Dropships have the most open troop transport areas of any vehicles currently in the game: passengers should be able to bail at a moment's notice. I wouldn't mind being locked into the ship so long as redline railguns weren't a thing. At least when forge gunners take me out it was because of good teamwork, good skill, or both. I wish swarms were more of a threat too, though not too much extra damage at proto, just being faster would help tremendously.
But yea, if we could solve the redline, and make railguns balanced while still being good against dropships (slightly more elevation for large railgun turrets), I'd be totally down for that. Making the ship instantly explode should only happen if it takes a certain % of damage past its total. You could also shoot the ship again as it's falling to make it explode.
Giving passengers a chance to bail is important.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4284
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:51:00 -
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Savage Mangler wrote:Discuss. I know it's asking too much, but keep it civil please.
NO.
If they get your DS down, the AV 'er DESERVES the kill.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4284
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:52:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't mind being locked into the ship so long as redline railguns weren't a thing.
''I wouldn't mind being locked into the ship so long as i dont have Any Counters except heavies''
This is what i read.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4298
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:55:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:Atiim wrote:No, they should not be able to bail.
My Swarm Launcher won the race and they were being to much of an idiot to use an afterburner. Why shouldn't they be punished for it? you dont see american soldiers staying in a plane thats going down do you? everyone has a right to bail out of a plane and so should DS pilots and whoever they are carring Don't bring up real life. Unless of course, you are planning on giving me a weapon that can 1HK every vehicle in this game. No? Didn't think so.
I don't have the right to bail out of my HAV or LAV when it dies, so why should Dropship pilots?
What gives Dropship pilots the right to deny AV the points that they earned?
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![Foundation Seldon Foundation Seldon](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:No, they should not be able to bail.
My Swarm Launcher won the race and they were being to much of an idiot to use an afterburner. Why shouldn't they be punished for it?
They're losing the Dropship. How is that not defined as being punished?
Pilots of all sorts should always have an option to bail.
Saga v. Methana Balance
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:55:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:When i get shot down i usually stay in to see what killed me Rail Tank
Rail Tank
Rail Tank
Rail Tank
Rail Tank
Forge Gun
Rail Tank
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:55:00 -
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Probably has been suggested but how about on top of the damage needed to send a DS down in flames, add an extra threshold needed to be exceeded that results in instant explosion.
For example, consider a DS with 3,000 ehp being hit with 3,000 damage. As it stands the dropship slowly falls out of the sky giving people time to escape. Now, my suggestion is give the DS x additional "health" which, once depleted, will result in the DS exploding like a tank would but in the sky.
Additionally, if the finishing blow to the DS depletes both the ehp and this added buffer then it will instantly explode.
Again, probably has been suggested, but in case it hasn't, this seems like a fair way to proceed. |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
10497
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:56:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't mind being locked into the ship so long as redline railguns weren't a thing.
''I wouldn't mind being locked into the ship so long as i dont have Any Counters except heavies''This is what i read. Well if you learned how to read, you'd notice that I covered that.
But you don't know how to read, so I can't be bothered to explain.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
10497
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:58:00 -
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Atiim wrote:What gives Dropship pilots the right to deny AV the points that they earned? While I'm in favor of being locked in the vehicle because I'm not a little *****, to answer your question quite simply: skill required to operate efficiently.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4299
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:59:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:Atiim wrote:No, they should not be able to bail.
My Swarm Launcher won the race and they were being to much of an idiot to use an afterburner. Why shouldn't they be punished for it? They're losing the Dropship. How is that not defined as being punished? Pilots of all sorts should always have an option to bail. No, they shouldn't.
The AVer did his job. He blew up the vehicle. Why should he be denied the points and kill that he earned?
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
2887
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Posted - 2014.02.01 23:00:00 -
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Spectre-M wrote:DS occupants should be killed just like every other vehicle. LAV and tank occupants don't get grace time.
That makes no sense unless the cockpit specifically is targeted.
An LAV a highly exposed frame riding on top of an explosive. Death is expected.
A tank is highly armored, but the pilot is entirely enclosed. If the shell is penetrated there is only one place for the explosive force to go. Death is certain.
A dropship is, for the most part, open. If the front part is penerated, pilot death should indeed be possible. The rear engines exploding would not kill the pilot at the opposite end of the craft, however. He would have more than enough time to open the rear cockpit door and bail out of the side in case of trouble from the midsection or rear. |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
10502
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Posted - 2014.02.01 23:01:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Spectre-M wrote:DS occupants should be killed just like every other vehicle. LAV and tank occupants don't get grace time. That makes no sense unless the cockpit specifically is targeted. An LAV a highly exposed frame riding on top of an explosive. Death is expected. A tank is highly armored, but the pilot is entirely enclosed. If the shell is penetrated there is only one place for the explosive force to go. Death is certain. A dropship is, for the most part, open. If the front part is penerated, pilot death should indeed be possible. The rear engines exploding would not kill the pilot at the opposite end of the craft, however. He would have more than enough time to open the rear cockpit door and bail out of the side in case of trouble from the midsection or rear. I long for a day of enter and exit animations for vehicles, preferably from first person
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
854
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Posted - 2014.02.01 23:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Atiim wrote:No, they should not be able to bail.
My Swarm Launcher won the race and they were being to much of an idiot to use an afterburner. Why shouldn't they be punished for it? They're losing the Dropship. How is that not defined as being punished? Pilots of all sorts should always have an option to bail. No, they shouldn't. The AVer did his job. He blew up the vehicle. Why should he be denied the points and kill that he earned?
true, but his "kill" is the vehicle, the pilot is just extra bonus points for what ever vehicle he "killed"
Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior
jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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