You and your crew are notorious for stomping! GTFO.

If someone who's 'notorious for stomping' is coming out against it, doesn't thqt suggest that maybe there's a problem and that the person in question is, maybe, changing their attitude, trying to highlight something that's wrong and trying to help change it?

By your standard, no-one would get out of prison because 'They've done it before so they'll always do it.'

Maybe what it takes to curb stomping is for a former stomper to come up with the tactic against it. Of course what happens then is they try and share their solution and they get heckled by other players, so they think 'screw helping out' and go back to stomping, keeping their idea for whenever they need to use it to stop others from stomping them.


That said, you can't come out against stomping and keep doing it and expect anyone to take you seriously. Match deeds to words and people will take notice.

You make several good points sir. On the point of the scanners I don't agree that much. Most of my fots are running with 2 proto dampeners these days. Yes thats at least a sacrifice of almost 200 HP, well worth it IMO. But then again, I can still have 700 HP on my suit so I guess the point is void.

So we're back to splitting up this already tiny playerbase as the only viable sollution? Anyone got any better idea?

Yeah yeah heard it all before. The funny thing is that this mentality seems to be the leading one for such a large part of the comunity. We've done test after test running cheaper fits with merely any difference in results. Teamwork, gungame and fighting spirit wins the battles, gear is merely the top of the iceberg.

Actually I did another 10 game test 2 days ago. ( I do this from time to time, I play 10 games, solo in cheap fits and notice the scores to see how bad I'd play without team support and with cheap fits.) I ended up with more kills and a better KDR on average compared to my usual stats. Why? Well I played smart for once, no crazy stuff, and I didn't have 3 experienced dudes around me competing for the kills. I did it in a 35K isk enhanced suit with basic weapons. Best game was 40-4 and the worst was 13-5. I know I can play well without my fanzy gear, and no I still won't do it, protogear makes me able to play more recklessly and makes the game more fun cause a loss of 10 suits in a game sort of hurts.

So take that "you need your crutch" attitude and stuff it. Do you really think that the dudes fighting at the top end in PC has no real skills and are merely being carried by their gear and skills? STFU

I agree with your OP KingBabar.

I think CCP has made two errors with the way they dispense match rewards.

Error number one is merely fundamental: ISK payouts. Simply put, there should be an ISK reward for the win, and it should be big enough to matter to peeps.

Error number two, however, is flat-out poisonous: Passive time-based in-match sp rewards. This mechanic sends a message to every single player that the game does not walk the New Eden talk. After a few matches, whether they understand the sp mechanics or not, players realize that their effort or lack of it does not really matter very much in terms of skillpoints paid out for a match. It's a particularly crushing realization for new players, and i believe it sucks the romance right out of the space opera.

That realization, when it comes, destroys any credibility DUST might have in the mind of a player. It's a message that speaks to the core of the gaming experience and what it tells peeps is that CCP does not respect them as hard-ass immortal mercenary soldiers, but rather sees players as rather delicate creatures that need to be taken care of and have their egos stroked by the game mechanics because they can't handle New Eden as it is.

Some peeps are able to recognize, analyze and dissect these sp payout mechanics almost immediately, some peeps only sense the problem intuitively and 'smell' that the situation is somehow distasteful, but i contend that it deeply effects every single player and sets the 'moral tone' for mercenary soldiers in New Eden. Hence my use of the word 'poisonous'.

Somebody at CCP thinks that these things don't matter or that peeps don't notice, i say that in the long run it is a primary limiting factor on the quality of the merc experience, the size of the playerbase and bears directly on the survival of DUST in the

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What can be done? First and foremost somebody at CCP needs to champion the players and realize that peeps are up to the challenge of living and dying and earning a buck in New Eden. And also to do something about the nanny-state interventions that CCP is perpetrating on the players.

Once the will is there it's not hard at all to improve the situation. There are so many solid suggestions on these forums, all of which have been read and discussed by CCP on multiple occasions.

My personal choice for things done right would be to remove the sp dole and replace it with differential WP rewards - noob taking down 40 million sp vet running full proto should be damn well rewarded for it, that same vet should get fractional payouts for harvesting that same noob. But what we should all be rewarded handsomely for is the win.

I'm appalled at the increasing of soft cored mercenaries that are multiplying. It wasn't always like this. We had the tears but now it just seems like an over abundance of kindergarten fighters in futuristic dropsuits.

Its like folks haven't played other FPS MP that has slaughtered them upon first entry. Yes, New Eden is a jagged pill to swallow but if I and so many others have done it, how come they can not?

So I played you today king. And I always go hard in the paint trust me. I suck and I'm probably the worst commando ever but I try.

Less than halfway through the match my team was pigeon holed at our last uplink. I tried to run and grab another point but if I even moved from cover the two tanks on the hill would murder me instantly. If I ran around the other direction 8 would be cut down by your teammates. I tried changing my fits and tactics but I could barely stay alive for more than 60 seconds before I saw your proto suit come around the corner and own me. Props to you. You're good.

But you redlined my team. And they couldn't even come out from behind the red line hill we were all behind to even try to retaliate. I did manage to sneak away and throw down an uplink. My team started spawning on it then all of a sudden 1 OB tore my entire team to shreds. This happened twice.

The best score on my team was 4/12 400ish wp

It's disheartening to get shite stomped so hard you can't even really play the game

Alot of things are killing the game. Let's just be honest here. We are all are responsible. We are a community, are we not? Then let's start building the community. It's that simple. But the most difficult part is pooling humans together for a common cause. In this day and age, humans hardly ever do that and just rather complain about **** instead of fixing ****