DUST Search - A shift in player mentality is needed IMO.

Drud Green wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

Nothing Certain wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

I'm appalled at the increasing of soft cored mercenaries that are multiplying. It wasn't always like this. We had the tears but now it just seems like an over abundance of kindergarten fighters in futuristic dropsuits.

Its like folks haven't played other FPS MP that has slaughtered them upon first entry. Yes, New Eden is a jagged pill to swallow but if I and so many others have done it, how come they can not?

Because in Dust it is so much harder to level up equipment and abilities, the differential is wider, takes longer to close and is ever growing. The situation will only get worse, it is harder now for new players than when I started 3 months ago and if you started 6 months ago it was easier, if you've been playing longer you really won't understand.

Yea because I can't remember how it was when I first started. Please, I understand greatly. When we were rookies, we didn't cry as much as you guys are doing now on the forums. The main argument was protostomping. Other than that, we didn't seek ways to have the game assist us in getting better. We aligned with established corps, asked questions, squad up with more experience players to help keep us from dying much-we made a substantial effort to be a lethal factor in New Eden.

It's not much harder to level up. It takes longer. There's a difference.

Plus, you guys have a wide variety of choice when it comes to weapons and dropsuits...compared to when I got here and you had few items...all that were used by vets that tore us to shreds.

Its not hard to play a few matches, gain some SP, let some passive SP gain, (can't even forget that you guys now get daily bonuses compared to when we didn't get any daily bonuses) and to level up some core skills that will give you some more time on the field. Not forgetting that you can pick up a lvl 1 weapon besides miltia and get going.

It doesn't take long to get a GEK, a CR or a RR. All three weapons are critical to your success

I understand its rough but its not as bad as it once were. Stop playing so many ambushes. All new players just run to ambush. Play dom where the SP stacks, you can join random squads, and you won't die as quick cause not all the mercs are in your face. There you will learn strategy and such.

So I don't understand sometimes. If you have the will to succeed, you will succeed. There are ways to get around it rookies, you have to want it instead of having it given to you.

Dust is a broken fps that fk all people play. "will to succeed" are you ******* joking? Get your head out of your ass you ******* numpty.


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Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2975	Posted - 2014.02.01 20:48:00 - [1] - Quote I'm appalled at the increasing of soft cored mercenaries that are multiplying. It wasn't always like this. We had the tears but now it just seems like an over abundance of kindergarten fighters in futuristic dropsuits. Its like folks haven't played other FPS MP that has slaughtered them upon first entry. Yes, New Eden is a jagged pill to swallow but if I and so many others have done it, how come they can not? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2975	Posted - 2014.02.01 20:54:00 - [2] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: God Damn Overheat wrote: I think you lack understanding, which makes for poor logic. People don't feel like being proto stomped into the ground, it's a waste of time, no fun, and a waste of ISK. The idea of less money for loser will push those who decide it aint worth it, to shy away even more. This is where better matchmaking would come into play. People think that matches should be tiered by lifetime SP,but I think this is a bad idea and would further segregate the already paper thin player base. What should happen instead is that certain maps should be designated by a meta level cap.So basically,it would be the total meta level of a players suit including equipment and modules.This way,everyone can still play these maps,they just have to adjust and make suits to fit the map.Grand Turismo 5 had something like this where you couldn't just get a car and max it completely out to blow away the other racers. Better matchmaking begins with the community. Let's just face the truth here. If you're a competitive player, your only option is PC (which is basically locked down) and maybe some FW. Other than that, pub matches are filled with players who play like big babies on the battlefield. One good "punch" to the jawline and they run to the hills, not even attempting to fight. It's a shame. It wasn't always that bad but players need to start toughening up a bit. It doesn't take much to let your merc gain passive SP or play a couple of matches, just to get a lvl 1 weapon that you can do some damage with. It's really not that hard. But some of this mentality falls on the responsibility of some vets in the community who used the NPE and Protostomp examples to heighten the importance of their opinion of wanting PVE and changes in game. It didn't set a good example with new mercs and now they constantly play their violins. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2975	Posted - 2014.02.01 20:59:00 - [3] - Quote I HateMyFace wrote: So I played you today king. And I always go hard in the paint trust me. I suck and I'm probably the worst commando ever but I try. Less than halfway through the match my team was pigeon holed at our last uplink. I tried to run and grab another point but if I even moved from cover the two tanks on the hill would murder me instantly. If I ran around the other direction 8 would be cut down by your teammates. I tried changing my fits and tactics but I could barely stay alive for more than 60 seconds before I saw your proto suit come around the corner and own me. Props to you. You're good. But you redlined my team. And they couldn't even come out from behind the red line hill we were all behind to even try to retaliate. I did manage to sneak away and throw down an uplink. My team started spawning on it then all of a sudden 1 OB tore my entire team to shreds. This happened twice. The best score on my team was 4/12 400ish wp It's disheartening to get shite stomped so hard you can't even really play the game It's disheartening when your corp just recruits new players who aren't getting enough training. No offense, but your corp is like a zerg squad. Beyond that tactic, I see guys die brutally from FWA all the time. You really need to take this up with your CEO or start joining well developed corps in squads so your guys can learn. I am willing to even start having special events where we can pool newer players together and have meetings discussing tactics and have squad runs. I am totally serious about that. New or recent born mercs need to unlearn what they have learned from other FPS titles and be taught from the ground up. If you like this idea, discuss it with your corporation and lets make things happen Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2977	Posted - 2014.02.01 21:14:00 - [4] - Quote Alot of things are killing the game. Let's just be honest here. We are all are responsible. We are a community, are we not? Then let's start building the community. It's that simple. But the most difficult part is pooling humans together for a common cause. In this day and age, humans hardly ever do that and just rather complain about ** instead of fixing ** Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2977	Posted - 2014.02.02 00:40:00 - [5] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Michael Arck wrote: I'm appalled at the increasing of soft cored mercenaries that are multiplying. It wasn't always like this. We had the tears but now it just seems like an over abundance of kindergarten fighters in futuristic dropsuits. Its like folks haven't played other FPS MP that has slaughtered them upon first entry. Yes, New Eden is a jagged pill to swallow but if I and so many others have done it, how come they can not? Because in Dust it is so much harder to level up equipment and abilities, the differential is wider, takes longer to close and is ever growing. The situation will only get worse, it is harder now for new players than when I started 3 months ago and if you started 6 months ago it was easier, if you've been playing longer you really won't understand. Yea because I can't remember how it was when I first started. Please, I understand greatly. When we were rookies, we didn't cry as much as you guys are doing now on the forums. The main argument was protostomping. Other than that, we didn't seek ways to have the game assist us in getting better. We aligned with established corps, asked questions, squad up with more experience players to help keep us from dying much-we made a substantial effort to be a lethal factor in New Eden. It's not much harder to level up. It takes longer. There's a difference. Plus, you guys have a wide variety of choice when it comes to weapons and dropsuits...compared to when I got here and you had few items...all that were used by vets that tore us to shreds. Its not hard to play a few matches, gain some SP, let some passive SP gain, (can't even forget that you guys now get daily bonuses compared to when we didn't get any daily bonuses) and to level up some core skills that will give you some more time on the field. Not forgetting that you can pick up a lvl 1 weapon besides miltia and get going. It doesn't take long to get a GEK, a CR or a RR. All three weapons are critical to your success I understand its rough but its not as bad as it once were. Stop playing so many ambushes. All new players just run to ambush. Play dom where the SP stacks, you can join random squads, and you won't die as quick cause not all the mercs are in your face. There you will learn strategy and such. So I don't understand sometimes. If you have the will to succeed, you will succeed. There are ways to get around it rookies, you have to want it instead of having it given to you. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2979	Posted - 2014.02.02 01:46:00 - [6] - Quote Drud Green wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Michael Arck wrote: I'm appalled at the increasing of soft cored mercenaries that are multiplying. It wasn't always like this. We had the tears but now it just seems like an over abundance of kindergarten fighters in futuristic dropsuits. Its like folks haven't played other FPS MP that has slaughtered them upon first entry. Yes, New Eden is a jagged pill to swallow but if I and so many others have done it, how come they can not? Because in Dust it is so much harder to level up equipment and abilities, the differential is wider, takes longer to close and is ever growing. The situation will only get worse, it is harder now for new players than when I started 3 months ago and if you started 6 months ago it was easier, if you've been playing longer you really won't understand. Yea because I can't remember how it was when I first started. Please, I understand greatly. When we were rookies, we didn't cry as much as you guys are doing now on the forums. The main argument was protostomping. Other than that, we didn't seek ways to have the game assist us in getting better. We aligned with established corps, asked questions, squad up with more experience players to help keep us from dying much-we made a substantial effort to be a lethal factor in New Eden. It's not much harder to level up. It takes longer. There's a difference. Plus, you guys have a wide variety of choice when it comes to weapons and dropsuits...compared to when I got here and you had few items...all that were used by vets that tore us to shreds. Its not hard to play a few matches, gain some SP, let some passive SP gain, (can't even forget that you guys now get daily bonuses compared to when we didn't get any daily bonuses) and to level up some core skills that will give you some more time on the field. Not forgetting that you can pick up a lvl 1 weapon besides miltia and get going. It doesn't take long to get a GEK, a CR or a RR. All three weapons are critical to your success I understand its rough but its not as bad as it once were. Stop playing so many ambushes. All new players just run to ambush. Play dom where the SP stacks, you can join random squads, and you won't die as quick cause not all the mercs are in your face. There you will learn strategy and such. So I don't understand sometimes. If you have the will to succeed, you will succeed. There are ways to get around it rookies, you have to want it instead of having it given to you. Dust is a broken fps that fk all people play. "will to succeed" are you ***** joking? Get your head out of your ass you ***** numpty. Calm down your aggressive behavior. It creates no type of constructive discussion. If Dust is so broken then why do you bother with the forums? Dust has its ups and downs but I enjoy the game. But the subject is not about the game, its about players who like to play Dust but are upset with their current skillsets. That's the subject of the thread. Not your personal rag tag opinion on Dust and me. Try to be less of a raging 12 year old and more of an educated adult, if that's possible. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2983	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:20:00 - [7] - Quote These discussions never end well... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]