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Text Grant
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:07:00 -
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What is the average tank health you drive around with on your fits? Shields and armor separate please. This is purely for educational purposes. Thank you to all that answer :) |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1125
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:13:00 -
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I don't know what my tank "health" is but I know that I die a lot in a tank and that is after learning what to do and not to do. I drink and drive so that means AV is pretty balanced in my book and the rail turret is way too effecient at CQ for what it is supposed to be.
My God if I had a rail turret in EVE as efficient as the tank rail turret is I'd have won at least five frigate battles that I can remember.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:14:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:What is the average tank health you drive around with on your fits? Shields and armor separate please. This is purely for educational purposes. Thank you to all that answer :)
Base hp armor because lol dual reps
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
237
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:47:00 -
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Almost everyone runs around with base hp because hardeners & reps are more efficient than extra hp. The only way this changes is if they lower the damage on large turrets and the duration on hardeners (while increasing cooldown) while substantially increasing extender/plate hp... As well as lowering the damage on non swarm/plc av. |
Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
28
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:00:00 -
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Depends on the tanker but for Blaster maddys you'll find a lot don't have extra plating, just reppers/hardners.
Plates only help you survive high alpha damage, but currently the only (relatively) high alpha AV is Remote Traps/Jihadi Jeeps which can do >10,000 damage, so no amount of plating can help you survive that.
Most Armour tanks are repped up, as in any encounter that lasts more than 10 seconds you'll have repped back more hp than the plate will have given you as buffer (milita reps 100 per second, a militia plate is something like 850hp).
Gunnlogis will often dual tank, hardners on the highs, armour plates on the low, if they're using a blaster, with a rail/missile they're likely using damage mods.
So for me depending on build/isk price ~1000 S, 4000 A, Reps at 300 per second.
Gunnlogi varies a lot and I'm not going to list all 7 builds I have haha |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:23:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Almost everyone runs around with base hp because hardeners & reps are more efficient than extra hp. The only way this changes is if they lower the damage on large turrets and the duration on hardeners (while increasing cooldown) while substantially increasing extender/plate hp... As well as lowering the damage on non swarm/plc av.
no scrub, i just pwnd sver true blood's tanks and python they kept spamming, any longer cooldown and tanks will hide to redline and snipe, or recall
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Text Grant
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
322
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Posted - 2014.02.01 13:33:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Depends on the tanker but for Blaster maddys you'll find a lot don't have extra plating, just reppers/hardners.
Plates only help you survive high alpha damage, but currently the only (relatively) high alpha AV is Remote Traps/Jihadi Jeeps which can do >10,000 damage, so no amount of plating can help you survive that.
Most Armour tanks are repped up, as in any encounter that lasts more than 10 seconds you'll have repped back more hp than the plate will have given you as buffer (milita reps 100 per second, a militia plate is something like 850hp).
Gunnlogis will often dual tank, hardners on the highs, armour plates on the low, if they're using a blaster, with a rail/missile they're likely using damage mods.
So for me depending on build/isk price ~1000 S, 4000 A, Reps at 300 per second.
Gunnlogi varies a lot and I'm not going to list all 7 builds I have haha
Thank you for some numbers |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
382
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Posted - 2014.02.01 13:44:00 -
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Tank PLZ! !!!
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
206
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Posted - 2014.02.01 13:52:00 -
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lol, what was that from?
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1582
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:04:00 -
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just total health not EHP?
if so i normally run
gunnlogi no shield extenders wat is tht like 2.5k shield or something i forget and 3.3k armor
maddy no shield extenders and no armor plates so 1.2k shield i think and 4 k armor. :)
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
206
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:05:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:just total health not EHP?
if so i normally run
gunnlogi no shield extenders wat is tht like 2.5k shield or something i forget and 3.3k armor
maddy no shield extenders and no armor plates so 1.2k shield i think and 4 k armor. :)
i counter you double reps with double reps and nos
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1714
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:07:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:What is the average tank health you drive around with on your fits? Shields and armor separate please. This is purely for educational purposes. Thank you to all that answer :)
You're losing out on battle time and escape chances if you're adding HP. Defense is always preferable to raw HP if there's a choice between the two. Buffer tanks are not viable anymore.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
207
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:09:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Text Grant wrote:What is the average tank health you drive around with on your fits? Shields and armor separate please. This is purely for educational purposes. Thank you to all that answer :) You're losing out on battle time and escape chances if you're adding HP. Defense is always preferable to raw HP if there's a choice between the two. Buffer tanks are not viable anymore.
true
decrease base hp to 1.6 levels, 3600 armor, increase plate, proto, amount by 500
done
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Templar set
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1582
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:11:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:just total health not EHP?
if so i normally run
gunnlogi no shield extenders wat is tht like 2.5k shield or something i forget and 3.3k armor
maddy no shield extenders and no armor plates so 1.2k shield i think and 4 k armor. :) i counter you double reps with double reps and nos
i counter u with 2 damage mods shield hard and armor hard.
and on my blaster tank i use nitrous as well
:)
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
207
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:13:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:NK Scout wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:just total health not EHP?
if so i normally run
gunnlogi no shield extenders wat is tht like 2.5k shield or something i forget and 3.3k armor
maddy no shield extenders and no armor plates so 1.2k shield i think and 4 k armor. :) i counter you double reps with double reps and nos i counter u with 2 damage mods shield hard and armor hard. and on my blaster tank i use nitrous as well :)
i counter you with 3 shield hardeners, a rep and a hardener, and skill.
2 exiles assault rifles,
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Staff recruiter mlt frame,
Templar set
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1582
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:14:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:NK Scout wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:just total health not EHP?
if so i normally run
gunnlogi no shield extenders wat is tht like 2.5k shield or something i forget and 3.3k armor
maddy no shield extenders and no armor plates so 1.2k shield i think and 4 k armor. :) i counter you double reps with double reps and nos i counter u with 2 damage mods shield hard and armor hard. and on my blaster tank i use nitrous as well :) i counter you with 3 shield hardeners, a rep and a hardener, and skill.
i counter with skill as well
u wouldn't need 3 hards if u had skill
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1714
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:17:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:NK Scout wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:just total health not EHP?
if so i normally run
gunnlogi no shield extenders wat is tht like 2.5k shield or something i forget and 3.3k armor
maddy no shield extenders and no armor plates so 1.2k shield i think and 4 k armor. :) i counter you double reps with double reps and nos i counter u with 2 damage mods shield hard and armor hard. and on my blaster tank i use nitrous as well :) i counter you with 3 shield hardeners, a rep and a hardener, and skill.
Cycling 3 enhanced is difficult enough to fit an armor hardener and rep module. But when you lose all your shield, what's left to harden?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
207
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:18:00 -
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i counter you with 1 hardener, 1 extender, 1 booster, 1 rep and a hardener with superior skill.
cal assault vs nyan san logi's, i win.
2 exiles assault rifles,
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
208
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:19:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:NK Scout wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:NK Scout wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:just total health not EHP?
if so i normally run
gunnlogi no shield extenders wat is tht like 2.5k shield or something i forget and 3.3k armor
maddy no shield extenders and no armor plates so 1.2k shield i think and 4 k armor. :) i counter you double reps with double reps and nos i counter u with 2 damage mods shield hard and armor hard. and on my blaster tank i use nitrous as well :) i counter you with 3 shield hardeners, a rep and a hardener, and skill. Cycling 3 enhanced is difficult enough to fit an armor hardener and rep module. But when you lose all your shield, what's left to harden?
trust me, it works (the armor part)
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter mlt frame,
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1714
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:21:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:i counter you with 1 hardener, 1 extender, 1 booster, 1 rep and a hardener with superior skill.
cal assault vs nyan san logi's, i win.
That's good for a single encounter against a blaster tank, maybe 2 if they're bad. But you won't survive a rail even in CQC.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
208
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:23:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:NK Scout wrote:i counter you with 1 hardener, 1 extender, 1 booster, 1 rep and a hardener with superior skill.
cal assault vs nyan san logi's, i win. That's good for a single encounter against a blaster tank, maybe 2 if they're bad. But you won't survive a rail even in CQC.
lol really
tell that to my rail sica with a straight face.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1714
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:24:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:
trust me, it works (the armor part)
How can you rely on 1200 armor to get you through fights?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1714
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:25:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:NK Scout wrote:i counter you with 1 hardener, 1 extender, 1 booster, 1 rep and a hardener with superior skill.
cal assault vs nyan san logi's, i win. That's good for a single encounter against a blaster tank, maybe 2 if they're bad. But you won't survive a rail even in CQC. lol really tell that to my rail sica with a straight face.
Is that Sica a redline puppy?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
208
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:26:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:NK Scout wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:NK Scout wrote:i counter you with 1 hardener, 1 extender, 1 booster, 1 rep and a hardener with superior skill.
cal assault vs nyan san logi's, i win. That's good for a single encounter against a blaster tank, maybe 2 if they're bad. But you won't survive a rail even in CQC. lol really tell that to my rail sica with a straight face. Is that Sica a redline puppy?
no, it's a frontline hound.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
382
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:27:00 -
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the old days of dust 514 !
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
208
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:27:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:NK Scout wrote:
trust me, it works (the armor part)
How can you rely on 1200 armor to get you through fights?
its 1500
and a armor hardener with a rep, works very well.
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1582
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:28:00 -
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while u guys argued i killed both of you in the side weak spot.
:)
your frontline hounds just ate double damage moded rail
\o/
GG's
til next time
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2352
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:29:00 -
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4k armor
2650 shield
Intelligence is OP
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:30:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:while u guys argued i killed both of you in the side weak spot.
:)
your frontline hounds just ate double damage moded rail
\o/
GG's
til next time
i got another sica, and damage modded a rail so far up your ass your turret emited my projectile
2 exiles assault rifles,
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1582
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:31:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:while u guys argued i killed both of you in the side weak spot.
:)
your frontline hounds just ate double damage moded rail
\o/
GG's
til next time i got another sica, and damage modded a rail so far up your ass your turret emited my projectile
nah dude i hid behind a rock to recharge and u killed some blueberry tank.
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