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Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 38	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:03:00 - [1] - Quote Okay. I'm SERIOUSLY tired of these people, Logistics or whoever they may be, Using injectors at the completely wrong time. PLEASE, Do not revive someone if you clearly see reds incoming or if you are already engaging the enemy. DO NOT proceed to repeatedly keep reviving players that are obviously not going to make it. All you're doing is screwing REAL Logistics players right in the bum. You're making players not want to be revived. Keep in mind, If they go down again after you revive them, IT DOES count as a death. Please be courteous. Because it DOES count as a death, People who respect their K/D ratios will hate your guts. Tis' not good.[ I think what would help if CCP updated the revival process. You're death count shouldn't go up if you are revived, Because when you are revived, technically, You haven't died yet. (The instant transferal of consciousness to another battle-ready clone has obviously not happened, Therefore NO DEATH.) Anyways, I had some tips to share to new Logistics out there: 1. As I said above, DO NOT keep reviving someone if you can't secure the job. 2. If you do see a friendly clone take an arrow to the knee and see that his armor has dropped, Oblige yourself and rip out that rep tool son! 3. If you happen to come across a poor clone who has taken an arrow to the knee and you see that his adventuring is postponed, Have a Nanite Injector handy to revive him. Save those clones! 3a. Just be sure when you are approaching the downed clone, The area is clear. You also have a weapon at your disposal. Use it. 3b. Once the area has been cleared or You believe it is safe enough to revive the clone, Do so with caution. 4. Rep that clone who has just beaten an almost-certain death! A half-armored trooper is only half-ready for battle! 5. Dish out those hives! You're friendly troopers cannot shoot with faith! 6. Do realize, mistakes can happen. Things can go wrong at anytime. Don't be so hard on yourself if something goes wrong on the job. Its something a Logi has to face with all the responsibility given. Just keep doing your job, and focus on your current mission! :) Hope this little thread helps with some issues I've been hearing and seeing from other players. Be safe out there troopers! o7 You're saying its a bad idea? Well stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 148	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:08:00 - [2] - Quote If you legitimately care about KDR then this game is not for you my friend. I will inject you until I run out of nanites for those sweet sweet war points
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1036	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:09:00 - [3] - Quote Your Solution https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129679&find=unread Please comment, add to or add criticisms so we can get this issue dealt with. It's more about this being an amazing dynamic that could add so much to the gameplay, use of clones, roles and add to the the experience in DUST for everyone rather then make it a negative experience for most.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 3778	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:12:00 - [4] - Quote KDR? GTFO My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 38	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:12:00 - [5] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Your Solution https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129679&find=unread Please comment, add to or add criticisms so we can get this issue dealt with. It's more about this being an amazing dynamic that could add so much to the gameplay, use of clones, roles and add to the the experience in DUST for everyone rather then make it a negative experience for most. I'll give it a look :) You're saying its a bad idea? Well stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 38	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:15:00 - [6] - Quote Not saying I care about my K/DR. If you are focused more on that, Then you are missing the whole point. Maybe I'm just a courteous Logi then. Idk... You're saying its a bad idea? Well stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2798	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:22:00 - [7] - Quote I won't risk a revive if it looks hopeless, but that's to avoid adding myself as another statistic. I'll try to pick you up if it looks like you can make cover because saving a clone is more important than saving KDR. Just don't stand out in the open like an idiot waiting to get shot. Take cover and I'll be there with a rep tool to top you off. Don't run to the front line with a sliver of health.
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 163	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:22:00 - [8] - Quote If theres a crossfire, you can revive someone and get away(sometimes) with the proto naniteonjector. Sometimes it might look clear, but you're being baited. I do that sometimes. Your use of the word "you're" is wrong. Think of it like this: It's the difference between knowing your s$@t and Knowing you're the s$@t.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 404	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:24:00 - [9] - Quote But points! This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 132	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:28:00 - [10] - Quote XD Actually i had just few minutes ago a game and that was really funny. I basicaly died twice in i thikg three second XD Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2962	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:35:00 - [11] - Quote It's the newberries that have been taught to revive someone for 60 WPs. That's all they care about is the WPs. I think CCP should significantly reduce it to half that amount or at least give us the accept revival option. There's just no way a person is that stupid to revive you in gunfire unless they just don't give a damn and want the 60. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
IR Scifi Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 106	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:37:00 - [12] - Quote One thing I run into is often times it will look clear but there's really a red-dot lurking just outside my scan range. To quote Pitch Black: Looks clear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVFgI_F4R7Y
Kara Anschel Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 54	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:51:00 - [13] - Quote You know what's fun, being revived 8 times in a row until a courteous redberry put a bullet in my skull so the revives stopped. I admit most of the time, the revives are great, but ** like that just pisses me off. After x amount of times, PLEASE ***** STOP STABBING ME. I would rather lose the suit and be up in 5 secs than watch myself die for a good 30-40 secs.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2964	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:57:00 - [14] - Quote IR Scifi wrote: One thing I run into is often times it will look clear but there's really a red-dot lurking just outside my scan range. To quote Pitch Black: Looks clear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVFgI_F4R7Y Your case is probably different and it sounds like you try your best to make smart revives. In most cases, a dead clone lies on the ground and you can see from your death screen enemies pushing towards your location. The blueberry will dodge gunfire, sidestepping and strafing to rush over to revive you. Of course if the you're dodging gunfire, you should know that someone or some group of enemies got their eyes on you, tracking your movements. The reviver will still stick a needle in you, regardless that he had to dodge the gunfire at your location, bringing you back to life for an instant death. It's terrible, especially when you get caught in a loop that you can do nothing about. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
QRT30 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 8	Posted - 2014.02.01 06:12:00 - [15] - Quote Some medics are really stupid. Also blueberries in MLT suits bleeding for pickup are frustrating. My adv. Logi cost 80-100 k and MLT cost is 0-8 k. Before I pick up I always aim and check the suit if it worth to risk mine. Advice: kill enemies first, then pick up.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 640	Posted - 2014.02.01 06:24:00 - [16] - Quote Such a great OP LOL. Indeed little Logibros the 60 WP is not worth the wrath of your teammates and the encouragement of those said teammates to hit respawn right away. Think long term WP gains vs immediate ones! Earlier, I'm on with my assault alt. and kill a guy and sure enough here comes newberry logi charging up with needle out right after him...so I gun him down, then here comes a second guy trying to revive the first needle happy logi......guess what happened to the third guy.....yep. Easy hip fire combat rifle to the face because being shot while mid crouch is begging to be head shot. Easy kills for even a merc like me with scrubby gun game. Since I am a nice guy I killed those 2 logis before they could revive the other guys instead of waiting and getting myself more kills and WP. Keep to the 3 Rs logibros: rep, revive, and resupply, but please always remember to do so sensibly. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 41	Posted - 2014.02.01 07:09:00 - [17] - Quote Kara Anschel wrote: You know what's fun, being revived 8 times in a row until a courteous redberry put a bullet in my skull so the revives stopped. I admit most of the time, the revives are great, but ** like that just pisses me off. After x amount of times, PLEASE ***** STOP STABBING ME. I would rather lose the suit and be up in 5 secs than watch myself die for a good 30-40 secs. Well this is one of the cases I brought up. As a Logi, I apologize. I know thats annoying :( You're saying its a bad idea? Well stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 41	Posted - 2014.02.01 07:13:00 - [18] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Such a great OP LOL. Indeed little Logibros the 60 WP is not worth the wrath of your teammates and the encouragement of those said teammates to hit respawn right away. Think long term WP gains vs immediate ones! Earlier, I'm on with my assault alt. and kill a guy and sure enough here comes newberry logi charging up with needle out right after him...so I gun him down, then here comes a second guy trying to revive the first needle happy logi......guess what happened to the third guy.....yep. Easy hip fire combat rifle to the face because being shot while mid crouch is begging to be head shot. Easy kills for even a merc like me with scrubby gun game. Since I am a nice guy I killed those 2 logis before they could revive the other guys instead of waiting and getting myself more kills and WP. Keep to the 3 Rs logibros: rep, revive, and resupply, but please always remember to do so sensibly. I completely agree You're saying its a bad idea? Well stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 41	Posted - 2014.02.01 07:18:00 - [19] - Quote TODDSTER024 wrote: If theres a crossfire, you can revive someone and get away(sometimes) with the proto naniteonjector. Sometimes it might look clear, but you're being baited. I do that sometimes. Your use of the word "you're" is wrong. Think of it like this: It's the difference between knowing your s$@t and Knowing you're the s$@t. Well, I was targeting more of the new Logistical members coming to the game or maybe older players giving Logistics a try. I was expecting experienced Logibros to understand what I'm talking about and know that this wasn't targeting you experienced Logistics, Since I'm sure you guys don't make these mistakes, Unless something goes wrong. I suppose you are right, And will be more detailed next time. Thanks You're saying its a bad idea? Well stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10485	Posted - 2014.02.01 07:20:00 - [20] - Quote On topic Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot

Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2520	Posted - 2014.02.01 07:38:00 - [21] - Quote Just gonna say people, we have a 30 second bleed out for a reason. That reason is to eliminate the threat BEFORE picking you up. You got the time, so there's no rush. If you can't clear the area of enemies in 30 seconds, it's too hot of an area to be doing revives anyways. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Exploder 1999 Grief University 1	Posted - 2014.02.01 07:47:00 - [22] - Quote Most of the people doing revives under fire are new players in starter medic fits who either A)don't know better or B) just want those sweet 60wp. Then there are guys like me who do it just to teach you that worshipping KDR is stupid.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2967	Posted - 2014.02.01 07:52:00 - [23] - Quote Exploder 1999 wrote: Most of the people doing revives under fire are new players in starter medic fits who either A)don't know better or B) just want those sweet 60wp. Yea, ya know? Quote: Then there are guys like me who do it just to teach you that worshipping KDR is stupid. Lost me there. Nobody is worshipping KDR, but the fact you do that just because can be detrimental to the team. You give the other team kill momentum boost, which can effect the outcome of the game dramatically Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Teilka Darkmist 176	Posted - 2014.02.01 07:55:00 - [24] - Quote Here's a tip, if someone's just died to a sniper but it wasn't a headshot (i.e. They can be revived) don't do it, there's a fair chance that was bait to take him and a logi out when you come to revive. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 57	Posted - 2014.02.01 08:04:00 - [25] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: If you legitimately care about KDR then this game is not for you my friend. I will inject you until I run out of nanites for those sweet sweet war points **** you my friend if you do it in fw i will melt your face ...repeatedly like 25+ it will be severiy inconvient yes i scream KA-ME-HA-MEHAAAAAA when i forge muthafuckas the Turtle Hermit: Professional Heavy
Exploder 1999 Grief University 1	Posted - 2014.02.01 08:16:00 - [26] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Lost me there. Nobody is worshipping KDR, but the fact you do that just because can be detrimental to the team. You give the other team kill momentum boost, which can effect the outcome of the game dramatically Sometimes, it can be in your best interest to help the other team. New Eden isn't black and white. Also there are people who actually think like this: Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: **** you my friend if you do it in fw i will melt your face ...repeatedly like 25+ it will be severiy inconvient They send such delicious hate-mail.
TechMechMeds Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2524	Posted - 2014.02.01 08:29:00 - [27] - Quote Theres many logis that find it hilarious to inject someone like a rabid animal knowing that you will be dying with them. Tends to be after getting high. Its not about the points, it cannot be described. o7 I really like the accept revive idea and also the clone termination after 3 consecutive attempts, 3 doses of nanites can't be healthy. Level 2 forum warrior. Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 153	Posted - 2014.02.01 08:37:00 - [28] - Quote I know I'm an AR wielding medium frame proto scrub and all, so take this with a grain of salt, but I actually do prefer to keep improving my KDR. So yeah...until I get a do not resuscitate option, I'll let people run to revive me up until the last second. If there's the guy that killed me still hanging around I'll just hit respawn so the needle man either kills him or gets killed in vain. It was either them or me, and I already died once.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10486	Posted - 2014.02.01 08:42:00 - [29] - Quote I wish they could use their nanite injector on my Incubus QQ Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2968	Posted - 2014.02.01 08:51:00 - [30] - Quote Exploder 1999 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Lost me there. Nobody is worshipping KDR, but the fact you do that just because can be detrimental to the team. You give the other team kill momentum boost, which can effect the outcome of the game dramatically Sometimes, it can be in your best interest to help the other team. New Eden isn't black and white. Also there are people who actually think like this: Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: **** you my friend if you do it in fw i will melt your face ...repeatedly like 25+ it will be severiy inconvient They send such delicious hate-mail. Because you're trolling them over your assumption that someone is upset about being revived solely because of the KDR issue. They have a right to be upset. But if trolling is what you do, I will be sure to make sure not to be around you at all when I fall. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]

Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 45	Posted - 2014.02.01 10:45:00 - [31] - Quote Geez guys. All these temper tantrums >_< The main point I wanted to get out was the reviving, Knowing enemies will shoot the clone after the revival. I gave the new Logibros some tips. Yes, There are certain individuals out there who actually care about their KD/R. Higher up corps actually look at that. Also, Its illogical to pick on someone who strives for a better KD/R. It makes sense to them and it is something for them to improve. Just like the rest of you always have a certain something you want to improve on. Everyone's "Logic" is different. I didn't start this thread for childish fighting. Just as a reminder of what a Logi's work involves and the courtesy behind it. The meaning & purpose. Besides, Why would you want to argue or fight with a logi who may be putting those lovely reps on you? Because, Honestly, I don't give a **** who it is. I'll rep you and I'll keep you alive. Its my job and I'm there for the team just as I'm sure any experienced Logi would be. Also, Sorry for the way I typed this^. I'm on my 7th shot of Jim Beam Honey Whiskey. Its the best I could do. o7 You're saying its a bad idea? Well stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 165	Posted - 2014.02.01 11:53:00 - [32] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Just gonna say people, we have a 30 second bleed out for a reason. That reason is to eliminate the threat BEFORE picking you up. You got the time, so there's no rush. If you can't clear the area of enemies in 30 seconds, it's too hot of an area to be doing revives anyways. True, but you dont know how much time the person has left. When im down to tem seconds, i start button mashing like a mofo...
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 165	Posted - 2014.02.01 11:56:00 - [33] - Quote Exploder 1999 wrote: Most of the people doing revives under fire are new players in starter medic fits who either A)don't know better or B) just want those sweet 60wp. Then there are guys like me who do it just to teach you that worshipping KDR is stupid. You get 60 wp for the proto NI, 25wp for STD/MLT
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 265	Posted - 2014.02.01 12:00:00 - [34] - Quote Stab me as many time needed to save my proto suit. War never changes
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1710	Posted - 2014.02.01 12:03:00 - [35] - Quote Storm Shelton wrote: Okay. I'm SERIOUSLY tired of these people, Logistics or whoever they may be, Using injectors at the completely wrong time. PLEASE, Do not revive someone if you clearly see reds incoming or if you are already engaging the enemy. DO NOT proceed to repeatedly keep reviving players that are obviously not going to make it. I'm tired of people like you. Play Logi for once. It's not always as clear as you think. Reds like to hide and wait for a Logi to come. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Teilka Darkmist 183	Posted - 2014.02.01 12:28:00 - [36] - Quote Here's a simple solution to the revive problem. A suicide button. When you're bleeding out, pullin your trigger causes you to suicide. If there's an injector in the area, the game tells you already so then you just have to decide if you want to be revived. If no, suicide. If yes, wait to see if anyone revives you. Problem solved, let's move onto the next one. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 49	Posted - 2014.02.01 13:02:00 - [37] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: I'm tired of people like you. Play Logi for once. It's not always as clear as you think. Reds like to hide and wait for a Logi to come. I am a Logi. If you hadn't realized it yet, I did say "sometimes things go wrong". Get your head out of your ass. Sometimes its clear, Sometimes its not. If you don't continually revive downed clones, to farm a quick and simple tad bit of WP, Knowing the friendly clone will die repeatedly -- then this does not pertain to you. You're saying its a bad idea? Well stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 182	Posted - 2014.02.01 13:22:00 - [38] - Quote I don't carry needles anymore. I've found that resupply, rep and rally tend to be the best support for my squad. On a similar note, we have the 4 r's, Rep- repair Rez- inject Rally- uplink resupply- hives would scanners fall under a 5th r as reconoiter? recon- scan "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 49	Posted - 2014.02.01 13:31:00 - [39] - Quote Logi Stician wrote: I don't carry needles anymore. I've found that resupply, rep and rally tend to be the best support for my squad. On a similar note, we have the 4 r's, Rep- repair Rez- inject Rally- uplink resupply- hives would scanners fall under a 5th r as reconoiter? recon- scan Well my C.E.O. wanted me to carry them once I think, But I declined his request. If it doesn't keep the team alive and thriving as far as ammo, armor repair and revives, Then I don't use them for my Logi suit. I like where my suit is currently at and of course I have experimental builds, But I mess with that stuff when I'm soloing. Experimentation must never be frowned upon and if you do include scanners with your build then I say by all means. Whatever makes you and your team more comfortable on the battlefront together is always a great thing my friend. n_n You don't know my life! You don't know how many nanites to put in my cereal!
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 183	Posted - 2014.02.01 14:04:00 - [40] - Quote Storm Shelton wrote: Logi Stician wrote: I don't carry needles anymore. I've found that resupply, rep and rally tend to be the best support for my squad. On a similar note, we have the 4 r's, Rep- repair Rez- inject Rally- uplink resupply- hives would scanners fall under a 5th r as reconoiter? recon- scan Well my C.E.O. wanted me to carry them once I think, But I declined his request. If it doesn't keep the team alive and thriving as far as ammo, armor repair and revives, Then I don't use them for my Logi suit. I like where my suit is currently at and of course I have experimental builds, But I mess with that stuff when I'm soloing. Experimentation must never be frowned upon and if you do include scanners with your build then I say by all means. Whatever makes you and your team more comfortable on the battlefront together is always a great thing my friend. n_n Well with a scanner I can help my team get more kills efficiently and man oh man, do the points rack up on a well placed scan before an orbital! We as Logis might think of it in terms of risk/reward. Injecting in a LOT of situations is high risk, low reward (possible gank and only 60 wp), while scanning, repping, uplinks(in a tactical location!) and laying down hives 99% of the time low risk high reward, for they can be done in cover or not in direct combat. Tirage, guardian, intel kill assist, team resupply, these pennies add up quickly. "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "

Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 84	Posted - 2014.02.01 14:14:00 - [41] - Quote Assaults suits w/ nanites i'm looking right at you guys. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Second Cerberus Tested In Production 70	Posted - 2014.02.01 15:07:00 - [42] - Quote CCP needs to address the injector issue as a priority. Not because its the most important issue, but because it is a relatively easy fix. Easiest Fixes: 1. Remove militia nanite injectors. If you only have enough SP / ISK invested to equip a militia injector, you shouldn't be doing it 2. Increase injector ISK costs. If you have a little more at risk, you are less likely to be rewarded for farming WP Harder Fixes: 1. Negative 50 WP for every clone you revive who lives less than 5 seconds. If you revive and then rep you can get 100 + points, but if you intend to revive / rinse / repeat you're going to get very little reward. I suggest -50 rather than -60 since mistakes do happen 2. Require a clone to request revival. For clones who wish to be revived, increase the time before death. "I don't always test my code, but when I do, I do it in production." - *CCP*
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 765	Posted - 2014.02.01 15:26:00 - [43] - Quote I got revived yesterday with a proto needle when the area was cleared. I wish I remembered his name and sent him mail. It was an honor getting revived by him.
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist Orion Empire 26	Posted - 2014.02.01 15:29:00 - [44] - Quote Storm Shelton wrote: Okay. I'm SERIOUSLY tired of these people, Logistics or whoever they may be, Using injectors at the completely wrong time. PLEASE, Do not revive someone if you clearly see reds incoming or if you are already engaging the enemy. DO NOT proceed to repeatedly keep reviving players that are obviously not going to make it. All you're doing is screwing REAL Logistics players right in the bum. You're making players not want to be revived. Keep in mind, If they go down again after you revive them, IT DOES count as a death. Please be courteous. Because it DOES count as a death, People who respect their K/D ratios will hate your guts. Tis' not good.[ I think what would help if CCP updated the revival process. Your death count shouldn't go up if you're revived, Because when you are revived, technically, You haven't died yet. (The instant transferal of consciousness to another battle-ready clone has obviously not happened, Therefore NO DEATH.) Anyways, I had some tips to share to new Logistics out there: 1. As I said above, DO NOT keep reviving someone if you can't secure the job. 2. If you do see a friendly clone take an arrow to the knee and see that his armor has dropped, Oblige yourself and rip out that rep tool son! 3. If you happen to come across a poor clone who has taken an arrow to the knee and you see that his adventuring is postponed, Have a Nanite Injector handy to revive him. Save those clones! 3a. Just be sure when you are approaching the downed clone, The area is clear. You also have a weapon at your disposal. Use it. 3b. Once the area has been cleared or You believe it is safe enough to revive the clone, Do so with caution. 4. Rep that clone who has just beaten an almost-certain death! A half-armored trooper is only half-ready for battle! 5. Dish out those hives! Your friendly troopers cannot shoot with faith! 6. Do realize, mistakes can happen. Things can go wrong at anytime. Don't be so hard on yourself if something goes wrong on the job. Its something a Logi has to face with all the responsibility given. Just keep doing your job, and focus on your current mission! :) Hope this little thread helps with some issues I've been hearing and seeing from other players. Be safe out there troopers! o7 I am guilty of farming WP like this. Me and a red made a system actually, I would heal and get 60wp and he would kill for 50. Some other red killed me and ended the, 13-14 streak. -Open Beta Vet-12.4 mil sp- Dust 514 recruitment link here
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 122	Posted - 2014.02.01 15:33:00 - [45] - Quote Hehehe, I camp dead bodies waiting for some dumb medic to pick them up so I can pick up another two quick kills. Thanks for the +100.
Sgt Buttscratch 1427	Posted - 2014.02.01 15:44:00 - [46] - Quote need a do not revive option, or to accept the revive, not many actual good logi's out there. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Dericha A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 20	Posted - 2014.02.01 15:51:00 - [47] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: On topic I've said it for a while: don't award points unless the target lives for 5s, otherwise do -50 for teamkill.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 122	Posted - 2014.02.01 15:58:00 - [48] - Quote Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: Virtual Riot wrote: If you legitimately care about KDR then this game is not for you my friend. I will inject you until I run out of nanites for those sweet sweet war points **** you my friend if you do it in fw i will melt your face ...repeatedly like 25+ it will be severiy inconvient Because that will be so much better for the team.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 122	Posted - 2014.02.01 16:01:00 - [49] - Quote Second Cerberus wrote: CCP needs to address the injector issue as a priority. Not because its the most important issue, but because it is a relatively easy fix. Easiest Fixes: 1. Remove militia nanite injectors. If you only have enough SP / ISK invested to equip a militia injector, you shouldn't be doing it 2. Increase injector ISK costs. If you have a little more at risk, you are less likely to be rewarded for farming WP Harder Fixes: 1. Negative 50 WP for every clone you revive who lives less than 5 seconds. If you revive and then rep you can get 100 + points, but if you intend to revive / rinse / repeat you're going to get very little reward. I suggest -50 rather than -60 since mistakes do happen 2. Require a clone to request revival. For clones who wish to be revived, increase the time before death. I only agree with the last one. Medic is one of the free suit options, it is the one that got me started down the logi path. We should have things that can be used stupidly, the game shouldn't be idiot proof.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 790	Posted - 2014.02.01 16:01:00 - [50] - Quote I try to only revive when I have a squadmate there to cover me. That said I am a very good shot I do my best to clear the way before the revive but its not always easy to get it right. What I would dearly love to see is a points balance between the different nanite injectors. I have to constantly compromise between getting the guy up with good health to get them out of harms way or getting more points for using a less advanced needle and getting + triage points - earning us orbitals. Its just not right. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"

BDR-2 Repair Tool New Eden Gallatic republic 1	Posted - 2014.02.01 16:10:00 - [51] - Quote I try my hardest not to revive people in the line of fire, but all they do is spam "call for help" because they see me 10m away. No I'm not coming to help you because you have 16 reddots looking at you!
Zael Azna Glitched Connection 6	Posted - 2014.02.01 16:31:00 - [52] - Quote As a logi I always try ot only rez when it is safe. But there will always be the odd time an enemy is waiting to get a shot unseen. I wish players had an option to refuse the rez. Another option would be if your rezzed and killed witin a very short time say 5 seconds it does not count towards your k/d.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 506	Posted - 2014.02.01 17:22:00 - [53] - Quote I tend to revive someone then make it a point to step in front of them, absorbed many sniper shots that way. But if you get rev'd and just stand there like a tard the next death is as much on you as the logi. Soon as you get to your feet you should be jumping and running to cover. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 641	Posted - 2014.02.01 18:08:00 - [54] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: I tend to revive someone then make it a point to step in front of them, absorbed many sniper shots that way. But if you get rev'd and just stand there like a tard the next death is as much on you as the logi. Soon as you get to your feet you should be jumping and running to cover. This is what I use my tank and extra 5 HP/sec armor reps for many times! Needle then cover the guy with my body if possible while getting out that rep tool. Granted unknown blueberries are less likely to get this full service logi experience, but my corp mates can expect I'll trade my clone for theirs. @Logi Stician, I love the 5 R's I never would have thought of rally for uplinks. Anyway, keep to the code logibros! Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 54	Posted - 2014.02.01 19:54:00 - [55] - Quote Thanks you all for your share of thoughts. Its always nice to see what other Logibros are up to so I don't always feel alone out there :/ I love all my logibros :) o7 You don't know my life! You don't know how many nanites to put in my cereal!
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 56	Posted - 2014.02.01 20:04:00 - [56] - Quote Zahle Undt -- You might want to add (Tusken Raider) next to sand people in your signature. I actually had a conversation with a woman earlier that never watched Star Wars. O.o (I really didn't say much back. All I really did was give confused prolonged eye contact) But when I happened to blurt "Tusken Raiders", All of a sudden, She knew what the hell I was talking about. n_n ESTROGEN..... smh.... You don't know my life! You don't know how many nanites to put in my cereal!
elric the enchanter xCosmic Voidx 328	Posted - 2014.02.01 20:23:00 - [57] - Quote Logi Stician wrote: I don't carry needles anymore. I've found that resupply, rep and rally tend to be the best support for my squad. Almost given up carrying injectors at all too, apart from on my proto suit - it's a full time job as it is, whipping out the repper once 'medics' have revived a squad/team mate in the midst of a firefight and run off, leaving them with 25% armour. I'll take the triage/guardian points to keep them in the fight any day. Tried being CEO of Cosmic Void once... ...but it's in safe hands now!
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3872	Posted - 2014.02.01 20:31:00 - [58] - Quote I don't often logibro, but when I do, it's on a free suit and I'm going to get that 60 WP if it kills me, you again, your family, and every blue within a 100m radius. I am your scan error.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 885	Posted - 2014.02.01 20:47:00 - [59] - Quote you die, me revive....nuff said I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Nirwanda Vaughns 305	Posted - 2014.02.01 21:21:00 - [60] - Quote tbh i'm farming wp atm so i'm just reviving folk for the s**ts and giggles of it Proto and proud!!



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