Just gonna say people, we have a 30 second bleed out for a reason.

That reason is to eliminate the threat BEFORE picking you up.

You got the time, so there's no rush. If you can't clear the area of enemies in 30 seconds, it's too hot of an area to be doing revives anyways.

Most of the people doing revives under fire are new players in starter medic fits who either A)don't know better or B) just want those sweet 60wp.

Then there are guys like me who do it just to teach you that worshipping KDR is stupid.

Okay.

I'm SERIOUSLY tired of these people, Logistics or whoever they may be, Using injectors at the completely wrong time.

PLEASE, Do not revive someone if you clearly see reds incoming or if you are already engaging the enemy.
DO NOT proceed to repeatedly keep reviving players that are obviously not going to make it.

I'm tired of people like you. Play Logi for once. It's not always as clear as you think. Reds like to hide and wait for a Logi to come.

I don't carry needles anymore. I've found that resupply, rep and rally tend to be the best support for my squad.

On a similar note, we have the 4 r's,

Rep- repair
Rez- inject
Rally- uplink
resupply- hives

would scanners fall under a 5th r as reconoiter?

recon- scan

Well my C.E.O. wanted me to carry them once I think, But I declined his request. If it doesn't keep the team alive and thriving as far as ammo, armor repair and revives, Then I don't use them for my Logi suit.

I like where my suit is currently at and of course I have experimental builds, But I mess with that stuff when I'm soloing.

Experimentation must never be frowned upon and if you do include scanners with your build then I say by all means.
Whatever makes you and your team more comfortable on the battlefront together is always a great thing my friend. n_n

Okay.

I'm SERIOUSLY tired of these people, Logistics or whoever they may be, Using injectors at the completely wrong time.

PLEASE, Do not revive someone if you clearly see reds incoming or if you are already engaging the enemy.
DO NOT proceed to repeatedly keep reviving players that are obviously not going to make it.

All you're doing is screwing REAL Logistics players right in the bum.
You're making players not want to be revived.
Keep in mind, If they go down again after you revive them, IT DOES count as a death. Please be courteous.
Because it DOES count as a death, People who respect their K/D ratios will hate your guts. Tis' not good.[

I think what would help if CCP updated the revival process. Your death count shouldn't go up if you're revived, Because when you are revived, technically, You haven't died yet. (The instant transferal of consciousness to another battle-ready clone has obviously not happened, Therefore NO DEATH.)

Anyways, I had some tips to share to new Logistics out there:

1. As I said above, DO NOT keep reviving someone if you can't secure the job.

2. If you do see a friendly clone take an arrow to the knee and see that his armor has dropped, Oblige yourself and rip out that rep tool son!

3. If you happen to come across a poor clone who has taken an arrow to the knee and you see that his adventuring is postponed, Have a Nanite Injector handy to revive him. Save those clones!

3a. Just be sure when you are approaching the downed clone, The area is clear. You also have a weapon at your disposal. Use it.

3b. Once the area has been cleared or You believe it is safe enough to revive the clone, Do so with caution.

4. Rep that clone who has just beaten an almost-certain death! A half-armored trooper is only half-ready for battle!

5. Dish out those hives! Your friendly troopers cannot shoot with faith!

6. Do realize, mistakes can happen. Things can go wrong at anytime. Don't be so hard on yourself if something goes wrong on the job. Its something a Logi has to face with all the responsibility given. Just keep doing your job, and focus on your current mission! :)

Hope this little thread helps with some issues I've been hearing and seeing from other players.

Be safe out there troopers! o7

**** you my friend if you do it in fw i will melt your face ...repeatedly like 25+ it will be severiy inconvient

CCP needs to address the injector issue as a priority. Not because its the most important issue, but because it is a relatively easy fix.

Easiest Fixes:

1. Remove militia nanite injectors. If you only have enough SP / ISK invested to equip a militia injector, you shouldn't be doing it

2. Increase injector ISK costs. If you have a little more at risk, you are less likely to be rewarded for farming WP

Harder Fixes:

1. Negative 50 WP for every clone you revive who lives less than 5 seconds. If you revive and then rep you can get 100 + points, but if you intend to revive / rinse / repeat you're going to get very little reward. I suggest -50 rather than -60 since mistakes do happen

2. Require a clone to request revival. For clones who wish to be revived, increase the time before death.

I tend to revive someone then make it a point to step in front of them, absorbed many sniper shots that way. But if you get rev'd and just stand there like a tard the next death is as much on you as the logi. Soon as you get to your feet you should be jumping and running to cover.

I don't carry needles anymore. I've found that resupply, rep and rally tend to be the best support for my squad.