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Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4305	Posted - 2014.01.31 18:59:00 - [1] - Quote So I've been waiting for this thing for....., well since I first heard it was coming, so to my fellow scouts:what uses have we? Keep in mind what you can't do while cloaked: No sniping No equipment Supposedly makes a sound while deactivating so knifing and shotty is out. So what can we use it for, go. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Bazookah Tooth NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 413	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:02:00 - [2] - Quote Crossing open areas where I would otherwise be most likely sniped. Making the time it takes to reach enemies shorter and hopefully easier to keep confusion going for knife kills "I believe it's a sin not to rule the world if you've been blessed with the strength!" Justice HMG for life
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2492	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:03:00 - [3] - Quote I'm a Ghost. What do you think I'm going to do with it? (Dear god I can't wait for proxy chat) Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1462	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:07:00 - [4] - Quote Getting into an overwatch position, decloak, take shot, cloak, swap overwatch position. Sneaking behind the enemy with drop uplinks which will give your team a flanking spawn? Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4305	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:07:00 - [5] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: I'm a Ghost. What do you think I'm going to do with it? (Dear god I can't wait for proxy chat) ghost over proxi chat too a sniper "This is going up your rear" Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 115	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:15:00 - [6] - Quote Really pro scouts are already good at not being seen until they stick a knife in your neck. The cloak will allow them to move around more freely without being shot by someone. Normally the only time I see a scout is when they are stalking another player. The cloak will help them stalk more effectively.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3746	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:16:00 - [7] - Quote Crossing the map and hacking objectives. Minmatar Scout V, Hacking V, 2x Complex hack mods. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Cyrius Li-Moody 3245	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:24:00 - [8] - Quote I intend to cause chaos. Lots of chaos. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1702	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:28:00 - [9] - Quote Likely uses for me include: Shifting through groups of enemies to get myself into the position I want. Remaining hidden while the Red masses moves past me. Recon for an area Remaining unseen while i drop an OB (okay this would require me to actually be in a squad, and drop an OB. But it's a use) Promoting paranoia to destabilize "secure" areas Bait and switch tactics KRRROOOOOOM
Kahn Zo Furyan Alpha 255	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:32:00 - [10] - Quote Mayhem chaos get in get out undetected one head, one bullet, move. rinse and repeat " No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit." ~ mollerz " yes, yes you can! when 1.8 deploys..." ~ Kahn Zo

MR-NASTY Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 189	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:49:00 - [11] - Quote Here we go again
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 143	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:49:00 - [12] - Quote I seriously hope that sprint is possible while cloaked. Anyway: - Sprinting up to an HAV and planting remotes while they feel safe - Sprinting into a group of people and planting remotes - Flanking enemies. Shotgunning heavies, for example. - Sneaking up to an LAV and headshotting the driver - Hiding in a corner of an objective and using my superior passive scanning. Maybe even with range amplifiers - Tracking enemies on open terrain, running into their predicted path and laying REs around corners to really **** them off. - Tracking down snipers and shooting them in the head. I don't even need to care about flanking anymore - Secretly installing REs on LAVs while the driver is hacking something - Shooting plasma cannons at point blank into a room of people. Let's see if it's any use. - Spawn camping with shotgun. It's pretty much guaranteed that spawn killed players will respawn at the same point and try to take revenge. Revenge against an invisible guy. Crysis players might be dangerous in that situation, though, considering that they'll be used to spotting subtle ripples. I really feel that "deactives when switching weapons" actually makes the cloak far more useful. Because now you can very quickly deactive the thing and instantly react. Press R2 and headshot a guy.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2496	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:56:00 - [13] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: I'm a Ghost. What do you think I'm going to do with it? (Dear god I can't wait for proxy chat) ghost over proxi chat too a sniper "This is going up your rear" I'll personify "Haunting" Letters. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2059	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:01:00 - [14] - Quote I think 'cloak blinking' will be a thing where you blink it on and off to lure players into traps with other waiting ambushes.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 574	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:03:00 - [15] - Quote Passive Scanning. I intend to be the guy sneaking around until you ping on my radar. One I have found your friends I'll relay that to my squad so they can scan you. I may kill a person or 2 then go hide while waiting for my cloak to recharge. I'll make sure I keep you just far enough away with my passive.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 356	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:05:00 - [16] - Quote As an assault that already gets killed all to much by those sneaky shotgunners, I'm not -- at all -- looking forward to them being even harder to spot.
Banjo Robertson Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 65	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:09:00 - [17] - Quote Without cloak, move into an objective that hasnt been hacked yet by either time, hack it, lay RE, use cloak to get away if enemies are near, find a hiding spot. Decloak and explode face if enemy hacks it. Or, look for an enemy objective that isnt guarded, hack it, lay RE, cloak to get away if enemies are coming back, blow up face after fiding a hiding spot. Use regular stealth to sneak up on a group of enemies, shoot one or two in the back of the head, cloak and run away.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 761	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:13:00 - [18] - Quote Do i think it's great? no. I think it's alright, the amount of PG and CPU is immense it's not even worth skilling even with a scout, another equipment instead of cloak would probably be best, and i'm not sure but if you get scanned... you're dead. *Assassination is my thing.*
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 977	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:16:00 - [19] - Quote The main reasons I can think of for using cloaks can be broken to three categories, in my opinion: 1. Travel With cloaks, you can safely traverse wide open areas with little concern about being spotted, especially by those pesky snipers. It also allows you to sneak up through places where otherwise you would be easily spotted and kill high-value targets 2. Escape Cloaks let you to escape a hairy situation a lot easier, letting you live another day to knife/shotgun/RE people 3. Confusion Sneak up on a group, kill a guy, cloak up and retreat, watch the panic rise. Rinse and repeat. Seriously, the amount of paranoia these cloaks will instill is going to be massive Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
OZAROW Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1321	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:30:00 - [20] - Quote Pooping on enemy boots unnoticed, then killing them while there cursing looking at their feet! " hey George one of those scouts pooped on my boots again........ Ahhh F%#K...... KhaaaahKLANK!!" SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4

BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1788	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:33:00 - [21] - Quote If it makes any noises while decloaking or anything that does not allow me to be a ninja then my dampeners is all I need. My equipment would go towards re and scanners. Now if they improve my ability to kill while stealthed then res and cloaks. Armor and Shields are not the same!
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 530	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:42:00 - [22] - Quote Not reading any of these posts and im calling it now: cloaks are going to bring misery to this game as bad if not worse than tanks. The game already(respectfully) has pop up issues and borderline worthless radar. Cloaks are going to be bad. Lol knowing ccp youll only be able to see cloaked players if you drive a tank or drop ship. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3391	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:43:00 - [23] - Quote Invisible commandos Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 145	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:57:00 - [24] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Invisible commandos I always felt that Commandos should be like commandos in C&C games. One man armies due to their really high damage output, but squishy as hell. A role that is best run solo, with a scan profile that is high to lure enemies into death and the ability to react to shield/armor tankers appropriately or to murder both groups and singular people alike or to go to town on infantry as well as vehicles. Does the commando have an eq slot, by the way? Because C4 is the soul of a commando. I wonder if there would be some way to give them additional strength for running solo, without making it a silly artificial bonus.
Nezbur Zero Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2014.01.31 21:05:00 - [25] - Quote WHAT?!!! Cloaks are coming??!!! YES!!! I also thought that this would be the best way to go about cloaking. No uses of weapons and stuff until you're not cloaked. I think thats going to be ******* awesome. I was actually thinking about that last night while playing. My best poem was written by the hornets that come out of my shotgun barrel.
Dragonmeballs Better Hide R Die 16	Posted - 2014.01.31 22:36:00 - [26] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Pooping on enemy boots unnoticed, then killing them while there cursing looking at their feet! " hey George one of those scouts pooped on my boots again........ Ahhh F%#K...... KhaaaahKLANK!!" ah yes, the phantom sh!tter Classic +1
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 802	Posted - 2014.01.31 22:48:00 - [27] - Quote I will mainly use them to cross areas i couldent normal cross and to sneak up behind people and vehicles Imagine going behind a tank cloaked, placing REs, then getting away and BOOM!
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 564	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:58:00 - [28] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Getting into an overwatch position, decloak, take shot, cloak, swap overwatch position. Sneaking behind the enemy with drop uplinks which will give your team a flanking spawn? For this I don't need a cloak at all, the only real use or cloaks is croosing an open space something no real scout should regulary do. Sure beeing able to shoot a whle clip while beeing cloaked would be stupid but gettin the initial shot would ot be that op at all. With a dampened suit this is already easily possible. The same ist true for knifing even if we are allowed to charge our knife and hit once (the initial blow) that would barely be OP. Now the funny part the cpm did not intevene by the introductin of the clearly highly OP new rifles or tanks but for cloaks they threw everything in they could to get this stuff in prenerfed... Whats left is a piece of equipment with horrendous fiting requirements that only give a marginally bonus as it seems. Well I guess we have to see how usefull cloaking will be but I fear i you could easily ake better use from that equipment slot
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 8827	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:10:00 - [29] - Quote I will use it on my assault scout of doom(TM). Pop out of cover, kill as much as possible, then duck back into cover and cloak up to escape. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 214	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:15:00 - [30] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: I seriously hope that sprint is possible while cloaked. Anyway: - Sprinting up to an HAV and planting remotes while they feel safe - Sprinting into a group of people and planting remotes - Flanking enemies. Shotgunning heavies, for example. - Sneaking up to an LAV and headshotting the driver - Hiding in a corner of an objective and using my superior passive scanning. Maybe even with range amplifiers - Tracking enemies on open terrain, running into their predicted path and laying REs around corners to really ** them off. - Tracking down snipers and shooting them in the head. I don't even need to care about flanking anymore - Secretly installing REs on LAVs while the driver is hacking something - Shooting plasma cannons at point blank into a room of people. Let's see if it's any use. - Spawn camping with shotgun. It's pretty much guaranteed that spawn killed players will respawn at the same point and try to take revenge crysis 1, 2 and 3 vet 20/1 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race**

Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 564	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:16:00 - [31] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I will use it on my assault scout of doom(TM). Pop out of cover, kill as much as possible, then duck back into cover and cloak up to escape. Oh I admitt there wil be some situational uses for cloaks but thats a bit unsatisfiying as cloaks were meant to be the saviour of the scout suit. Currently I beleive the changes to the suit and it slot layou will save the scout way more than the cloak. IMHO the cloak will just be a terrible expensive piece of equipment for quite limited usages. But I don't want to complain too much the suit changes are well worth waiting for 1.8
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6693	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:19:00 - [32] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: If it makes any noises while decloaking or anything that does not allow me to be a ninja then my dampeners is all I need. My equipment would go towards re and scanners. Now if they improve my ability to kill while stealthed then res and cloaks. Here's the thing though. We have no clue or frame of reference on how the decloak noise is going to be if any. We'll just have to assume that the decloak noise is the same as the respawn noise which is audible but subtle enough to not notice it. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 992	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:21:00 - [33] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: If it makes any noises while decloaking or anything that does not allow me to be a ninja then my dampeners is all I need. My equipment would go towards re and scanners. Now if they improve my ability to kill while stealthed then res and cloaks. Here's the thing though. We have no clue or frame of reference on how the decloak noise is going to be if any. We'll just have to assume that the decloak noise is the same as the respawn noise which is audible but subtle enough to not notice it. I'd rather hold my breath and judgement on the usefulness and viability of the cloaking device until we can actually use it, as there are still plenty of things that are not explained to us about its finer points. But decloak sound or not, I would still be running it and figuring out ways to make it work with my fits. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:46:00 - [34] - Quote NK Scout wrote: crysis 1, 2 and 3 vet 20/1 I weep for the loss of three very awesome and distinct multiplayer games. I wish Dust would have options to have some similar gameplay. The speed of Crysis 3 and the incredibly fluid movement was insane amounts of fun. And if Dust needs something, then it's fluid movement.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 216	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:56:00 - [35] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: NK Scout wrote: crysis 1, 2 and 3 vet 20/1 I weep for the loss of three very awesome and distinct multiplayer games. I wish Dust would have options to have some similar gameplay. The speed of Crysis 3 and the incredibly fluid movement was insane amounts of fun. And if Dust needs something, then it's fluid movement. crysis 2 is funner, they scewed C3 balance and made things pointless C2 cloak actually hides you, C2 has higher TTK 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 790	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:02:00 - [36] - Quote Knifing itself makes a sound. The shotty does, too at higher decibels. I'll be using it the first two weeks for the sheer gimmick of it. Don't know if I'll keep it.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:49:00 - [37] - Quote NK Scout wrote: crysis 2 is funner, they scewed C3 balance and made things pointless C2 cloak actually hides you, C2 has higher TTK Crysis 3 gave us slower movement with cloak, separate energy bars and unlimited sprint. Moving around the levels, grabbing ledges and shooting people was pure fun. I don't care about anything else. I do agree about the cloak, though. The speed nerf was enough, the visibility thing was just ******. And the Jackal was pretty broken at the beginning, especially in Hunter mode. I ***** loved Hunter mode. Dust needs such creative modes. Maybe one where a bunch of pure proto players plays against a much larger horde of mlt/std players.
Morathi III Policeman of the Federation 119	Posted - 2014.02.02 16:07:00 - [38] - Quote i really hope cloak will be a trash things we dont need it in this game
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 217	Posted - 2014.02.02 16:25:00 - [39] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: NK Scout wrote: crysis 2 is funner, they scewed C3 balance and made things pointless C2 cloak actually hides you, C2 has higher TTK Crysis 3 gave us slower movement with cloak, separate energy bars and unlimited sprint. Moving around the levels, grabbing ledges and shooting people was pure fun. I don't care about anything else. I do agree about the cloak, though. The speed nerf was enough, the visibility thing was just ******. And the Jackal was pretty broken at the beginning, especially in Hunter mode. I *** loved Hunter mode. Dust needs such creative modes. Maybe one where a bunch of pure proto players plays against a much larger horde of mlt/std players. I can see the c3 cloak from 20m away easy on most maps exept that open one I agree that the movement was better but weapon and stealt and armor balance was bad Armor hp was too low Weapons were too strong The last patch or hotfix completely ** the recoil, and made the scar bad. 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race**
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2014.02.02 16:55:00 - [40] - Quote Morathi III wrote: i really hope cloak will be a trash things we dont need it in this game You must be fun to be around. Who needs a fun game with variety, anyway? Let's just all take our assault rifles and play Ambush every day. No Grenades, no REs, no vehicles. Only AR and SMG.

Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 248	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:17:00 - [41] - Quote The spy from TF2 was one of my favourite classes. It had a activation/deactivation sound, but you get used to the distance it travels. It'll be interesting to see how it changes the game. I'm calling cloak and REs as the next FOTM. Decloak, deploy, detonate then cloak again. Objectives are gonna be turned into camping grounds. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1308	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:20:00 - [42] - Quote I plan on bringing divine retribution to my enemies with the amarr scout, one second they see me after I take one of them out, the next I'm gone like dust in the wind. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 212	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:28:00 - [43] - Quote I still want DUST cloaks changed to follow EVE cloaks. A DUST equivalent of EVE's prototype cloak which could be (relatively) easily fit by any suit, but severally penalize speed, (run slower, no sprint, no jump), no equipment switching, no weapons fire, etc. Deactivation if someone comes to close. Basically nothing but slow movement. A DUST equivalent of EVE's improved cloak, which would be the same as the proto but slightly less restrictive. A DUST equivalent of EVE's CovOps clock, only fittable to a certain class of suits (Scouts or some new CovOps role) which would not penalize movement, allow sprinting, jumping, climbing ladders, etc. Potentially switch out to different equipment, closer to others without breaking cloak, etc. I like the idea of firing while cloaked and feel it could be done well with proper counters and a squishy CovOps role. Here's my initial thread in F&I with my thoughts on the cloak. The cloak is just another way that DUST should be like EVE. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4334	Posted - 2014.02.03 05:43:00 - [44] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: I plan on bringing divine retribution to my enemies with the amarr scout, one second they see me after I take one of them out, the next I'm gone like dust in the wind. Cause you got shot? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Lightning Bolt2 Binary Mercs 368	Posted - 2014.02.03 08:06:00 - [45] - Quote Distraction, I often get large groups of enemies after me (4-ect.) then just terrorize them leading them on a merry chase away from the objective, with the cloak I might be able to live when I do that tactic and possibly mabye just mabye cause HAVOC, MUAHAHAHA, er distraction. Favorite gear: Duct-tape and Butter knives
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 613	Posted - 2014.02.03 08:13:00 - [46] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: I think 'cloak blinking' will be a thing where you blink it on and off to lure players into traps with other waiting ambushes. This would be awesome, unless there is a cooldown on the cloak. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2014.02.03 08:57:00 - [47] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: I think 'cloak blinking' will be a thing where you blink it on and off to lure players into traps with other waiting ambushes. This would be awesome, unless there is a cooldown on the cloak. IIRC it's only an energy bar. But, knowing CCP, they might do an energy bar AND a cooldown for whatever reason.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 615	Posted - 2014.02.03 08:59:00 - [48] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: I think 'cloak blinking' will be a thing where you blink it on and off to lure players into traps with other waiting ambushes. This would be awesome, unless there is a cooldown on the cloak. IIRC it's only an energy bar. But, knowing CCP, they might do an energy bar AND a cooldown for whatever reason. If there's no Cooldown, I might spec Cal Scout further than on level for the cloak. So fun. I always liked stealth classes. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1937	Posted - 2014.02.03 09:01:00 - [49] - Quote Here's an idea for you all. Transport an entire squad across the map within...and on top of a single dropship. Six players plus the pilot inside and the rest standing cloaked on top of the ship. It's the inconceivable play! McDonell Miller Explains the Dust Challenge Lottery Protocol
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 132	Posted - 2014.02.03 09:02:00 - [50] - Quote doing that thing people do in movies when theyre running away from someone and hide around a corner and the people keep running off in the other direction.

Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 422	Posted - 2014.02.03 09:09:00 - [51] - Quote Hands down, flanks. I don't know the map name but the one where the point is underground with the Supply depot. So often it is people on the outside moving in as an assault wave to take the point. Imagine a Scout attacking from behind as the Assault force pushes in. Hell, even taking out Logistics to stop repairs and taking out spawn uplinks will utterly destroy that defensive position. Sneaking into a position and causing huge panic is something I can see being very effective. The loudness of the decloak is hugely important. If it is easy enough to miss, like if someone is shooting or listening to their comms, shotguns and nova knives still work well. If nothing else, it is an excellent tool for getting outta Dodge. Kill a few enemies from where they don't notice you rather than charging at them. When they realize you are there and start running at you with vile intent, cloak and GTFO.


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