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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:53:00 -
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Just two months ago there were many, countless AR is OP threads before 1.7 and now that 1.7 comes there are no complaints at all, absolutely zero.
What's even funnier is that Plasma Rifle even got a slight range buff to keep up with other weapons introduced in 1.7.
But the real punchline of the joke is that some of the same people that cried that the AR is OP are now defending the Rail and Combat Rifle when both of them clearly outperform the Plasma Assault Rifle in the Plasma Rifles own Ideal environment.
I think that says a lot right there.
Whether you think the Rifles are OP or not that's a thought to ponder on for a second while you browse amongst these threads. |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
8742
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:55:00 -
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Oh, forums.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1277
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:57:00 -
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Their are no complaints because the Rr is a reskinned ar with almost double the range.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:57:00 -
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I'm going to go make an AR is OP thread
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Onesimus Tarsus
1034
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:58:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:I'm going to go make an AR is OP thread
I'll post on it.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:58:00 -
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Personally I think it's incredibly funny.
Indeed the new rifles are too powerfull I'll not argue with you there, but still it's extremely funny.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
293
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:59:00 -
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Sometimes an AR out-ranges my RR and I die.
I shrug my shoulders and say, "Damn server RNG"
Nerf RNG!
CEO of SAM-MIK...sometimes. (shhh don't tell anyone, they'll start asking questions)
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1459
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:19:00 -
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CR/ACR =/= OP
AR/TAR == OP
SCR/ASCR > OP
RR/ARR >> OP
/thread
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
4495
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:21:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Their are no complaints because the Rr is a reskinned ar with almost double the range. ^This, it's just another ez mode weapon, so people don't complain about it, or it'll get nerfed into the ground.
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Even Fatal Absolution has a hate video!!
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1703
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:26:00 -
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meh i'm specced into all four, come at me bro.
RR needs a nerf
CR needs a tone down mostly on the range
AR is fine
and the none assault PR could use a bit of a buff imo. |
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
798
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:30:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:CR/ACR =/= OP
AR/TAR == OP
SCR/ASCR > OP
RR/ARR >> OP
/thread I don't understand this cryptic language |
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Ryme Intrinseca
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
549
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:50:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:But the real punchline of the joke is that some of the same people that cried that the AR is OP are now defending the Rail and Combat Rifle when both of them clearly outperform the Plasma Assault Rifle in the Plasma Rifles own Ideal environment. I have AR to prof. 5, RR to prof. 3, and use both weapons in most battles, so have a pretty good idea of how they work.
The RR is definitely outperformed by the AR in the AR's ideal environment (short range). The reason for this is that, while the weapons have similar DPS, the RR loses a quarter of that due to its charge time.
I don't use the CR so can't comment on that. |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1462
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:56:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:CR/ACR =/= OP
AR/TAR == OP
SCR/ASCR > OP
RR/ARR >> OP
/thread I don't understand this cryptic language
Allow me to translate it for you, it is as follows:
The Combat Rifle/Assault Combat Rifle are not Overpowered.
The Assault Rifle/Tactical Assault Rifle are Overpowered.
The Scrambler Rifle/Assault Scrambler Rifle are ******* Overpowered.
The Rail Rifle/Assault Rail Rifle are very ******* Overpowered.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
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manboar thunder fist
SAM-MIK
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:58:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Oh, forums.
Agreed
1.8 will shoot my amarr logi in the face with an ion pistol then bury it under a caldari heavy.
No, not alive thankfully
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:00:00 -
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And for the past 7 builds no one talks about the scrambler rifle...
AND YET CCP IS STILL CONSIDERING NERFING THE AMARR ASS SUIT!!! Dafuq
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:10:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote: Allow me to translate it for you, it is as follows:
The Combat Rifle/Assault Combat Rifle are not Overpowered.
The Assault Rifle/Tactical Assault Rifle are Overpowered.
The Scrambler Rifle/Assault Scrambler Rifle are ******* Overpowered.
The Rail Rifle/Assault Rail Rifle are very ******* Overpowered.
Your hierarchy is bad and you should feel bad. The combat rifle far outdpses the assault rifle and the TAR is a once-great weapon which never sees the light of day in even mildly competitive play.
How can you possibly believe that the CR is perfectly balanced? Consider that it has more DPS than all the other rifles bar the scrambler rifle which at least has an overheat mechanic to balance it. Then consider that the RPM is so high that missing a shot barely hurts at all. Then consider that it has excellent range.
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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xXcythe
Dust OMEGA corp
3
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:11:00 -
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umm try this if u will...if all rifles r overpowered...then how r any of the overpowered?????? |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1462
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: Allow me to translate it for you, it is as follows:
The Combat Rifle/Assault Combat Rifle are not Overpowered.
The Assault Rifle/Tactical Assault Rifle are Overpowered.
The Scrambler Rifle/Assault Scrambler Rifle are ******* Overpowered.
The Rail Rifle/Assault Rail Rifle are very ******* Overpowered.
Your hierarchy is bad and you should feel bad. The combat rifle far outdpses the assault rifle and the TAR is a once-great weapon which never sees the light of day in even mildly competitive play. How can you possibly believe that the CR is perfectly balanced? Consider that it has more DPS than all the other rifles bar the scrambler rifle which at least has an overheat mechanic to balance it. Then consider that the RPM is so high that missing a shot barely hurts at all. Then consider that it has excellent range. The hierarchy is sound.
HOW DARE YOU BLASPHEME!!!
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:13:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:CR/ACR =/= OP
AR/TAR == OP
SCR/ASCR > OP
RR/ARR >> OP
/thread I don't understand this cryptic language Allow me to translate it for you, it is as follows: The Combat Rifle/Assault Combat Rifle are not Overpowered. The Assault Rifle/Tactical Assault Rifle are Overpowered. The Scrambler Rifle/Assault Scrambler Rifle are ******* Overpowered. The Rail Rifle/Assault Rail Rifle are very ******* Overpowered. That dosent make any sense. Combat rifle is by far a more powerful weapon than the AR The Ar is the closest to being balenced CR and RR are just as OP as each other |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
8744
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:14:00 -
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xXcythe wrote:umm try this if u will...if all rifles r overpowered...then how r any of the overpowered??????
Because it is pointless to use a weapon other than a rifle if all the rifles are overpowered.
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:14:00 -
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xXcythe wrote:umm try this if u will...if all rifles r overpowered...then how r any of the overpowered?????? Because theres more than 4 weapons |
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:15:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:CR/ACR =/= OP Said the Minmatar.
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Even Fatal Absolution has a hate video!!
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1503
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:18:00 -
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The CR is OP in cqc The RR is OP at range The SCR is OP if you put damage mods/ proficiency (most OP weapon in the game) The AR is the meter of comparison
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
260
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:18:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: Allow me to translate it for you, it is as follows:
The Combat Rifle/Assault Combat Rifle are not Overpowered.
The Assault Rifle/Tactical Assault Rifle are Overpowered.
The Scrambler Rifle/Assault Scrambler Rifle are ******* Overpowered.
The Rail Rifle/Assault Rail Rifle are very ******* Overpowered.
Your hierarchy is bad and you should feel bad. The combat rifle far outdpses the assault rifle and the TAR is a once-great weapon which never sees the light of day in even mildly competitive play. How can you possibly believe that the CR is perfectly balanced? Consider that it has more DPS than all the other rifles bar the scrambler rifle which at least has an overheat mechanic to balance it. Then consider that the RPM is so high that missing a shot barely hurts at all. Then consider that it has excellent range.
Obvious troll is obvious. He/she/it is pretty much doing what the OP is ranting about. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1462
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:20:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:CR/ACR =/= OP Said the Minmatar. Do I detect a hint of racial profiling?
Do I have to sic the NMTA* on you?
*National Matari Tribesperson Association
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1462
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:25:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: Allow me to translate it for you, it is as follows:
The Combat Rifle/Assault Combat Rifle are not Overpowered.
The Assault Rifle/Tactical Assault Rifle are Overpowered.
The Scrambler Rifle/Assault Scrambler Rifle are ******* Overpowered.
The Rail Rifle/Assault Rail Rifle are very ******* Overpowered.
Your hierarchy is bad and you should feel bad. The combat rifle far outdpses the assault rifle and the TAR is a once-great weapon which never sees the light of day in even mildly competitive play. How can you possibly believe that the CR is perfectly balanced? Consider that it has more DPS than all the other rifles bar the scrambler rifle which at least has an overheat mechanic to balance it. Then consider that the RPM is so high that missing a shot barely hurts at all. Then consider that it has excellent range. Obvious troll is obvious. He/she/it is pretty much doing what the OP is ranting about. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
Someone obviously has zero sense of humor.
Besides, I had to listen to the AR fanatics dish up pretty much the same thing over and over and over and over and over again for months when it was even shown that at one point the AR out-dpsed Large Blasters. Now is the time for our (the other racial rifles) turn to dish up bias regarding our rifles.
Therefore I stand by my position and if you desire to call me a troll for that, go ahead.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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xXcythe
Dust OMEGA corp
3
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Posted - 2014.01.31 21:11:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:xXcythe wrote:umm try this if u will...if all rifles r overpowered...then how r any of the overpowered?????? Because theres more than 4 weapons
I didnt ask wat the problem witth them being overpowered is. I understand that an op weapon will only make people use those and only those. What im asking is... if the rifles all r op for their class, then within the rifle class, no other weapons considered, how r they op compared to each other? if they r all op how r they op, they r wat they r...proficient |
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
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Posted - 2014.01.31 21:16:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Just two months ago there were many, countless AR is OP threads before 1.7 and now that 1.7 comes there are no complaints at all, absolutely zero.
What's even funnier is that Plasma Rifle even got a slight range buff to keep up with other weapons introduced in 1.7.
But the real punchline of the joke is that some of the same people that cried that the AR is OP are now defending the Rail and Combat Rifle when both of them clearly outperform the Plasma Assault Rifle in the Plasma Rifles own Ideal environment.
I think that says a lot right there.
Whether you think the Rifles are OP or not that's a thought to ponder on for a second while you browse amongst these I still think its it OP. Its just the other rifles are more OP by direct comparison.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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