Well this is why I made this thread, for ideas how to balance them so they aren't I win buttons, but are useful AV that keep vehicle users on their toes. Any suggestions?

Also like I said any hardeners or modules that were active before the grenade hit wouldn't be effected in any way. Plus for a tanker to use AV grenades or anyone for that matter the Tank would have to be withing throwing distance; which they shouldn't ever be. only bad tankers role up another tanks ass during a fight or sit on top of infantry spawn points or buildings and smash helpless ground units.

Not everyone uses Scrub techniques Godin.

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why do people fail to understand tiers(even CCP at things)
10sec-30sec isn't proper tiers.
then balance...
10 second is too long even proto

and then to the OP
do you even know how chaff works?

1st-what happened to that intiki thing alt char you had? realized the name was lame and dropped it?
2nd- as it is, AV nades, are a JOKE.I know many tankers liek yourself wanted this but the FPS equation is broken here=
SHORT RANGE = HIGH DAMAGE.
Grenades will soon be incapable of being re-supplied and i say, at proto level , grenades could hit as hard as 2250 (2 per suit) and still,between the lack of supply ability, Tank superior SPEED, Tank HARDENER and uselessness vs DS it would be balanced.
for a total of 4500 with 2 proto grenades,considering MOST tanks carry more than that HP (a MLT SOMA has more than that) and have hardeners, they could still take in 2 proto grenades and survive.

BUT OF COURSE, tankers LOVE getting INTO urban areas where FG are almost useless since cannot use their RANGE advantage and swarms , well , LOL @ Swarms...
And would HATE for something to scratch their hulls.

What im saying is.
Anything Godin says against AV buffs should be ignored as he is as Biased as one can be.

1-I know thats a ''friend'' of yours,i was just asking what happened to your intiki thing, alt,character you had...
2-I agree with your stasis grenades. I disagree with removing a Highly damaging AV solution for Close quarters.

In the case Teamwork is not available, a player must always have the means of dropping ANOTHER single player.

3-you should know by now you dont have the power to shut me up.

I only Tank when I steal someone's tank, which is happening more and more lately. Getting rid of AV nades might be the answer or not but non vehicle users need a deterrent at least that isn't fully specced proto AV with damage mods. Something to keep tanks from Rolf stomping them with no chance of survival.

Although to keep things fair and positive your stasis grenades might be fun, mind explaining how they would work?

I see you point and thank you for being civil about it; perhaps the numbers I pulled from thin air are a bit much so lowering them would be necessary. However making the. Stackable is probably not a good idea, perhaps 5 STD, 10 ADV, and 15 PRO? With only one grenade to throw. Or 1 seconds for STD 3 for ADV and 5 for Pro and make them stackable?

Edit: fixed errors

Dear Godin,

Every time you post on a thread, or create a thread, you turn it into a troll factory. There's a reason why you were banned. Stay that way.

Now your getting my idea, without your HUD you couldn't aim, turn on hardeners, or see your radar so you'd run am I right? This is the basic idea I had and I thought I had put that in clear enough terms, my apologies.