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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2016
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:26:00 -
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I think it would only be right to take all of the isk that you are farming, or maybe even just half of it and give it to the 'community' if what you claim your are doing is true.
So here's the challenge: Take at least half, if not all of the isk you are generating from your districts and donate it to Dust University to facilitate better new player experience. I think they may be one of the corporations best suited to leverage a donation to serve the community in the best way.
Upvote if you think this has merit, or comment if you think district lockers deserve the isk they are getting. |
KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1689
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:27:00 -
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Meh, thy'll just Waste them anyways...
http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
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Grit Breather
Cannonfodder PMC
1006
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:28:00 -
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+1 from me
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2017
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:33:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Meh, thy'll just Waste them anyways...
I'd rather a new player waste isk figuring out how to play the game then a bitter vet stomping everyone. |
Nosid Katona
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
71
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:39:00 -
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While I am very skeptical about this and doubt PC's 'benevolent' saviors will do so, I choose to hope for the best while expecting the worst. Also my experiance with DUST-U is limited, however I am inclined to agree based on what I do know and a lack of a suitable alternative.
Your idea has my support. +1
Vae Victis
Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3361
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:43:00 -
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I'll take some Iskies
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
342
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:27:00 -
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Great idea, but it will never happen. People are greedy, and I'm not sure I blame them. |
Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2022
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:31:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Great idea, but it will never happen. People are greedy, and I'm not sure I blame them.
What do you mean, "You don't blame them"? Typically, 'we don't blame' people when they have no option, or were coerced into something, or are victims of tragic circumstances. If we are saying we don't blame them for the tragic circumstances in which they are cooperatively voluntarily locking their districts just to collect piles of isk for which it would be a challenge to just intentionally lose at the rate that they are making it...then I'm afraid I don't share your opinion.
They have won the districts fairly, I will grant them that. Their strategy for holding onto them is a little more complicated, but I would totally place blame on them for their current greedy practice. They are not victims. |
CRYPT3C W0LF
MK.V
309
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:31:00 -
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by human nature, a large majority of people have always been greedy. It probably wont happen lol :P
Although I would look forward for CCP to wipe all the ISK and Isk equivalent marketplace Items from you inventory when the player market is brought out. Everyone starts fresh.
Ahhhh....
CPM? Nononono
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
10454
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:35:00 -
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My dropships unfortunately do not run on tears
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Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
740
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:58:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:donate it to Dust University to facilitate better new player experience.
You must be trolling.... D-UNI doesn't help it's players, never has, thats why Immortal Guides was created. D-UNI should be ashamed and EvE Uni should kick them from the Ivy League.
I know many D-UNI players and all have confirmed how they had zero help while in the corp. If PC owners did this then they will be padding a certain CEO's already fat wallet.
GôêGÆ+GÆ+GƦ - Causes headaches, it's official
+1 for Infantry Skills Refund in 1.8 or I win DUST514
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2024
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:04:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:donate it to Dust University to facilitate better new player experience. You must be trolling.... D-UNI doesn't help it's players, never has, thats why Immortal Guides was created. D-UNI should be ashamed and EvE Uni should kick them from the Ivy League. I know many D-UNI players and all have confirmed how they had zero help while in the corp. If PC owners did this then they will be padding a certain CEO's already fat wallet.
Yeah, to be honest, I don't know anything about he CEO. Tell us more about these Immortal Guides, and maybe tap some people from there to comment on here. |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
670
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:07:00 -
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a just cause but new players should earn how to play, otherwise they will waste it.
Shield of Cat Merc. (again)
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2026
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:22:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:a just cause but new players should earn how to play, otherwise they will waste it.
Define 'waste'...
Because of how expensive protosuits are, a new player (in a 25k isk suit) has to lose 5-6x as many suits as proto players in a 150k isk suit.
So if a proto loses 2-4, a new player can lose 10-24 suits before the new player technically starts 'losing' more to destruction.
I'd argue that a new player's experience of learning how to play the game is worth more to the community and those losses would be more of a gain anyway, because at that point a vet really wouldn't be learning too much unless they are experimenting with new gear. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1269
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:23:00 -
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What about people like me and my commando brethren, we do a thankless job so you people don't have to kill yourselves to adapt to the constantly changing battlefield.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1040
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:27:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:What about people like me and my commando brethren, we do a thankless job so you people don't have to kill yourselves to adapt to the constantly changing battlefield. Vermaak in General Discussions?! Did Feedback/Requests go down for maintenance or something?
MAG ~ Raven
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2026
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:34:00 -
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I would think that these Dickers (District Lockers) may want to only give to corps that more directly support new players in their own time zones. So I'm unfamiliar with the Asian TZ and if there are new player friendly corps there that may be a good target for this kind of thing. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1269
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:46:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:What about people like me and my commando brethren, we do a thankless job so you people don't have to kill yourselves to adapt to the constantly changing battlefield. Vermaak in General Discussions?! Did Feedback/Requests go down for maintenance or something? That was the old Vermaak, the Vermaak that enjoyed reading and downing terribad ideas. This is a new Vermaak,a better Vermaak, a Vermaak that realizes that bad posts are everywhere and talks in 3rd person.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
4448
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:51:00 -
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Too bad I don't have the roles to.
Not that I would even if I could.
Winner of at least 11 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
Even Fatal Absolution has a hate video!!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2349
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:52:00 -
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DUST University averages 1000 active players and last time I checked had a tax rate of 7%. I donGÇÖt think they are hurting for cash.
Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
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Matobar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
233
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Posted - 2014.01.31 01:00:00 -
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Backing this good idea. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
2127
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Posted - 2014.01.31 01:10:00 -
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Immortal WILL use the ISK if Fox got that those newbies would be doing much better...
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Dengru
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
404
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Posted - 2014.01.31 01:56:00 -
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lol you make it sound like billionaires donating money to build schools and playgrounds
time to take it down a notch, a bit too serious...
(>^_^)><(^.^<)
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6423
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Posted - 2014.01.31 02:05:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:I think it would only be right to take all of the isk that you are farming, or maybe even just half of it and give it to the 'community' if what you claim your are doing is true.
So here's the challenge: Take at least half, if not all of the isk you are generating from your districts and donate it to Dust University to facilitate better new player experience. I think they may be one of the corporations best suited to leverage a donation to serve the community in the best way.
Upvote if you think this has merit, or comment if you think district lockers deserve the isk they are getting.
Really it's a WIN-WIN-WIN
New players get isk, and they will get it in the name of all the people who are proto-stomping them. They won't have the right to be as pissed at you, and they will hopefully be in more than just militia gear, so you get even better payouts. Your money will likely come back to you in one way or another anyway.
Hahahahahahahahahaha Why the **** would they do that?
Worst suggestion in all of New Eden and you should feel very foolish.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
349
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Posted - 2014.01.31 02:06:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=139363&find=unread
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Help Shields
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2034
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Posted - 2014.01.31 02:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:I think it would only be right to take all of the isk that you are farming, or maybe even just half of it and give it to the 'community' if what you claim your are doing is true.
So here's the challenge: Take at least half, if not all of the isk you are generating from your districts and donate it to Dust University to facilitate better new player experience. I think they may be one of the corporations best suited to leverage a donation to serve the community in the best way.
Upvote if you think this has merit, or comment if you think district lockers deserve the isk they are getting.
Really it's a WIN-WIN-WIN
New players get isk, and they will get it in the name of all the people who are proto-stomping them. They won't have the right to be as pissed at you, and they will hopefully be in more than just militia gear, so you get even better payouts. Your money will likely come back to you in one way or another anyway. Hahahahahahahahahaha Why the **** would they do that? Worst suggestion in all of New Eden and you should feel very foolish. You have to remember this universe is all about self serving, epeen wagging greed, murder boners, and general dastardly, bastardly, anti social tendencies.
Well people who are in corps that basically say f*ck the community out of one side of their mouth but then run forth CPM feeling entitle to their future thrones because of how awesome they are should recognize that they are at least setting themselves up for rather convincing ad hominem attacks. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1013
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Posted - 2014.01.31 02:22:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:KingBabar wrote:Meh, thy'll just Waste them anyways... I'd rather a new player waste isk figuring out how to play the game then a bitter vet stomping everyone.
People still don't get that if people want an extreme casual gaming experience they would never ever come to DUST. or a CCP Title...
You can give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. You can teach a man to fish and he can eat forever.
Half the fun of DUSt is the need for ISK. When you have to much the fun and drive diminishes |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6425
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Posted - 2014.01.31 02:23:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:True Adamance wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:I think it would only be right to take all of the isk that you are farming, or maybe even just half of it and give it to the 'community' if what you claim your are doing is true.
So here's the challenge: Take at least half, if not all of the isk you are generating from your districts and donate it to Dust University to facilitate better new player experience. I think they may be one of the corporations best suited to leverage a donation to serve the community in the best way.
Upvote if you think this has merit, or comment if you think district lockers deserve the isk they are getting.
Really it's a WIN-WIN-WIN
New players get isk, and they will get it in the name of all the people who are proto-stomping them. They won't have the right to be as pissed at you, and they will hopefully be in more than just militia gear, so you get even better payouts. Your money will likely come back to you in one way or another anyway. Hahahahahahahahahaha Why the **** would they do that? Worst suggestion in all of New Eden and you should feel very foolish. You have to remember this universe is all about self serving, epeen wagging greed, murder boners, and general dastardly, bastardly, anti social tendencies. Well people who are in corps that basically say f*ck the community out of one side of their mouth but then run forth CPM feeling entitle to their future thrones because of how awesome they are should recognize that they are at least setting themselves up for rather convincing ad hominem attacks.
True enough, but giving out ISK will not change that which you have stated.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
9
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Posted - 2014.01.31 02:33:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:What about people like me and my commando brethren, we do a thankless job so you people don't have to kill yourselves to adapt to the constantly changing battlefield.
I need to find a commando chat room so I can help show the world that the commando can do work, before 1.8 comes out and people start QQing about it (you know someone will)
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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Sextus Hardcock
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
251
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Posted - 2014.01.31 02:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Hahahahahahahahahaha Why the **** would they do that?
Worst suggestion in all of New Eden and you should feel very foolish. You have to remember this universe is all about self serving, epeen wagging greed, murder boners, and general dastardly, bastardly, anti social tendencies.
Eve University has been going for quite a few years mentoring, providing skill books etc... to new players to help them learn the game. There are several in-game charities as well (although quite a few scams I'm sure)
New Eden is whatever we decide it to be, if some choose to be charitable and help out, so be it.
I am the sixth son
Chrome Vet
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