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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2014.01.30 05:20:00 -
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Does anyone seem to notice on how CCP changes this so often and ninja like or messes up the weapon completely heres some examples on weapons that have been changed or is wrong.
Rail Rifle- Anything with rail should do shield damage.....So why is RAIL RIFLE doing amour damage. I know i'll get some eve players calling me out and explaining why and please do.
Forge Gun- Used to do 110% shield damage for the longest i can rember was just after way back start of chromo and now it does amour damage even know it makes sense in eve cause its used for mining once you put a weapon in a game changing the play style on it since the damage is dealt different now it just never feels the same.
I know theres a few more comment below if you can think of anything else that changed or should be changed.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 05:22:00 -
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Logi Bro
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Posted - 2014.01.30 05:23:00 -
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They work that way because EvE.
The rail rifle does bonus damage to armor because Gallente are armor tankers, and the prime enemy of the Caldari, so wouldn't it be common sense that the Caldari design their weaponry to combat their enemy? At least that's how I've always looked at it.
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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2014.01.30 05:29:00 -
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i also forgot to add the shotgun and yeah if you look at it from the perspective of a caldari it makes sense to make a weapon to kill amour tanks but calling rail is kinda messed up for me anyways. Like i was saying though the shotgun used to do amour damage like a month ago and i loged on the other day and now it does shield damage and now that i think about it the sniper keeps changing back and forth cause the sniper does more shield damage now.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 05:38:00 -
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Infamous Erich wrote:i also forgot to add the shotgun and yeah if you look at it from the perspective of a caldari it makes sense to make a weapon to kill amour tanks but calling rail is kinda messed up for me anyways. Like i was saying though the shotgun used to do amour damage like a month ago and i loged on the other day and now it does shield damage and now that i think about it the sniper keeps changing back and forth cause the sniper does more shield damage now.
The shotgun is Hybrid-Plasma, it has always done 110% damage to shields, 90% to armor.
Sniper rifle is and always has been Hybrid-Rail, so it does 90% shield, 110% armor.
To my knowledge these numbers have never changed.
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2014.01.30 05:39:00 -
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Rails use powerful Electro magnets to send an object at insane speed towards an enemy. Its essentially no different in practice to using a standard powder round except its kinetic force comes from magnetic fields instead of a chemical reaction.
Plasma/Blasters operate similarly to rails except they are expelling with electro magnetic force highly charged gas particles that deal more 'thermal' damage than an actual ballistic shot.
Thermal energy disrupts shields and merely scorches armor, ergo more shield damage than armor.
Kinetic force is deflected (somewhat) by energy shields but collides and/or pierces armor plates, ergo more armor damage than shield.
The forge gun is a really big damage dealer, and I can't really say I noticed any resistances before uprising (didn't pay attention honestly). But it can still OHK most infantry, and tanks have been on a roller coaster. I would say the play style of Forge Guns wouldn't have changed much.
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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2014.01.30 05:42:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Infamous Erich wrote:i also forgot to add the shotgun and yeah if you look at it from the perspective of a caldari it makes sense to make a weapon to kill amour tanks but calling rail is kinda messed up for me anyways. Like i was saying though the shotgun used to do amour damage like a month ago and i loged on the other day and now it does shield damage and now that i think about it the sniper keeps changing back and forth cause the sniper does more shield damage now. The shotgun is Hybrid-Plasma, it has always done 110% damage to shields, 90% to armor. Sniper rifle is and always has been Hybrid-Rail, so it does 90% shield, 110% armor. To my knowledge these numbers have never changed.
Sniper Rifle used to not do shield damage just due to the fact it was rediclously powerfull nowadays with the hp buffs CCP changed it to shield damage im like 85% sure it used to do amour damage. For the shotgun though i can 100% say that it used to say 110% amour damage cause my tactic for the longest time was to flux a heavy then pop out with a shotty so i can confirm that it has been changed around.
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Auris Lionesse
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:01:00 -
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rail rifles do kinetic damage, kinetic is strong against armor.
forge gun is thermal damage. thermal is strong against shields.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:11:00 -
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I don't and will never do Eve bro.
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Denn Maell
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:13:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:rail rifles do kinetic damage, kinetic is strong against armor.
forge gun is ALSO KINETIC damage. thermal is strong against shields.
do you even eve bro?
Fixed that for ya.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:23:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:rail rifles do kinetic damage, kinetic is strong against armor.
forge gun is ALSO KINETIC damage. thermal is strong against shields.
do you even eve bro? Fixed that for ya.
That's not correct.
Rail Rifle is Hybrid Rail Damage, -10% to shields, +10% to armor. It is not the same as Kinetic, which does -5% to shields, +10% to armor. Forge gun is also Hybrid Rail damage. In fact almost all Caldari weapons do Hybrid Rail damage, save the Swarm Launcher, which is explosive.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:23:00 -
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:58:00 -
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Denn Maell
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:44:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Denn Maell wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:rail rifles do kinetic damage, kinetic is strong against armor.
forge gun is ALSO KINETIC damage. thermal is strong against shields.
do you even eve bro? Fixed that for ya. That's not correct. Rail Rifle is Hybrid Rail Damage, -10% to shields, +10% to armor. It is not the same as Kinetic, which does -5% to shields, +10% to armor. Forge gun is also Hybrid Rail damage. In fact almost all Caldari weapons do Hybrid Rail damage, save the Swarm Launcher, which is explosive. Source: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65468/1/damageprofiles.pngDo you even Dust bro?
(sheepish grin) Whoops, yeah. The term is Hybrid Rail. I was using 'Kinetic' a bit too literally for a game.
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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:05:00 -
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ok guys after looking at some stuff i still don't see why the sniper is doing 110% sheild damage lol
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:07:00 -
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Rails in EVE are used by both Gallente and Caldari.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:08:00 -
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CCP loves Caldari for unknown reasons
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Auris Lionesse
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:35:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Denn Maell wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:rail rifles do kinetic damage, kinetic is strong against armor.
forge gun is ALSO KINETIC damage. thermal is strong against shields.
do you even eve bro? Fixed that for ya. That's not correct. Rail Rifle is Hybrid Rail Damage, -10% to shields, +10% to armor. It is not the same as Kinetic, which does -5% to shields, +10% to armor. Forge gun is also Hybrid Rail damage. In fact almost all Caldari weapons do Hybrid Rail damage, save the Swarm Launcher, Source: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65468/1/damageprofiles.pngDo you even Dust bro? (sheepish grin) Whoops, yeah. The term is Hybrid Rail. I was using 'Kinetic' a bit too literally for a game.
Kinetic is accurate for eve, any rail gun or gauss cannon would do kinetic damage. It's new Eden it's not called hybrid rail damage lol. When passive and active hardeners come into the game suits wot have bonus to hybrid rail, it'll be called kinetic. |
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