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bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 62	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:11:00 - [1] - Quote I feel like this is topic-worthy because I was discussing this with someone in a squad, and I mentioned how Caldari and Gallente heavies are going to resist every weapon in the game except lasers and rails, respectively. Then he made me realize I had completely forgotten about flux grenades. I was actually considering specing into Caldari Sentinel. But if they don't resist flux grenades in any way, I'm not so sure.
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 52	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:13:00 - [2] - Quote not yet, it would seem. I would expect in the future there would be hardeners. That's how ships handle resistance holes. Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 395	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:18:00 - [3] - Quote Yes, Flux Grenades will likely kill them nearly instantly. (Speculation Time!) I can see Flux Grenades being nerfed in some way. Doing 1,500 damage to shields in a massive area might be a bit much now. Back in beta, every suit had different stats. The Basic Caldari Assault 1 was an Armor Tanker. It had like 150 Shields but nearly 300 Armor. Obviously, things have changed so Caldari Dropsuits focus on Shields almost exclusively so Fluxes are incredibly dangerous. With their huge area of effect and very low personal risk to the user if they are Gallente/Amarr, I could see Flux grenades getting toned down. There isn't really a counter to Armor like there is for Shields on the same level of strength as Flux grenades.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 443	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:18:00 - [4] - Quote It's not too bad as the cal sentinel will have a depleted shield recharge delay of one second. So they wont be on low health for long. We want cake and tea.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 396	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:20:00 - [5] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: It's not too bad as the cal sentinel will have a depleted shield recharge delay of one second. So they wont be on low health for long. I believe there was a post how that was an error. I'll try and find it.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3708	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:21:00 - [6] - Quote The Caldari Sentinel actually does have resistance to lasers, as for anything else, who knows. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 255	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:22:00 - [7] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: not yet, it would seem. I would expect in the future there would be hardeners. That's how ships handle resistance holes. Suits that are coming in a couple weeks aren't going to annihilated by flux grenades because of hypothetical hardeners that are coming ??? That logic. It been brought up, but the consensus is no one cares, **** was flipped at the dep shield delay listed at 1sec tho. Wait and see fluxes might get changed. 32db Mad Bomber.
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 623	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:23:00 - [8] - Quote The Caldari Sentinel has a 1 second shield depleted recharge delay. People thought it was a typo, but unless I am delusion, somebody affiliated w/ CCP (Logobro?) clarified that it was not a typo. Fluxes won't be the end of your clone, unless you immediately start taking fire after the flux (which seldom happens from my experience).
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 62	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:23:00 - [9] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The Caldari Sentinel actually does have resistance to lasers, as for anything else, who knows. Yeah but lasers do 20% extra to shields and Caldari sentinel only resists that by 10%
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8674	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:24:00 - [10] - Quote No, it won't. It has a 25% blast resistance meaning flux grenades will do reduced damage. After that, there's proper damage drop-off now so it'll take a full hit from a flux to deplete shields (unless its an allotek, but cores do similarly horrible things to armour tanks) and even if the shields DO get depleted by the flux... They'll start regenerating again almost instantly. Also, flux grenades can't kill you. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven

Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 396	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:25:00 - [11] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: The Caldari Sentinel has a 1 second shield depleted recharge delay. People thought it was a typo, but unless I am delusion, somebody affiliated w/ CCP (Logobro?) clarified that it was not a typo. Fluxes won't be the end of your clone, unless you immediately start taking fire after the flux (which seldom happens from my experience). That is correct. I just looked it up. Quote is here: CCP Logibro wrote: So I checked with CCP Remnant, and the Caldari Sentinel Shield Depleted Recharge Delay is supposed to be 1. It is not a typo. The more you know! Well, that is truly fascinating.
Vitharr Foebane Living Like Larry Schwag 564	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:28:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: So I checked with CCP Remnant, and the Caldari Sentinel Shield Depleted Recharge Delay is supposed to be 1. It is not a typo. The more you know! Page 13 Post 250 drosuit skills thread in feedback section(stickied on top) Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3 That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4413	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:30:00 - [13] - Quote i remember when glitchy fluxes killed everything, ah good times. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8675	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:31:00 - [14] - Quote gbghg wrote: i remember when glitchy fluxes killed everything, ah good times. Tanks died to them. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 62	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:32:00 - [15] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: The Caldari Sentinel has a 1 second shield depleted recharge delay. People thought it was a typo, but unless I am delusion, somebody affiliated w/ CCP (Logobro?) clarified that it was not a typo. Fluxes won't be the end of your clone, unless you immediately start taking fire after the flux (which seldom happens from my experience). That is correct. I just looked it up. Quote is here: CCP Logibro wrote: So I checked with CCP Remnant, and the Caldari Sentinel Shield Depleted Recharge Delay is supposed to be 1. It is not a typo. The more you know! Well, that is truly fascinating. I am so specing into that suit.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 643	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:34:00 - [16] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: So I checked with CCP Remnant, and the Caldari Sentinel Shield Depleted Recharge Delay is supposed to be 1. It is not a typo. The more you know! Well, that is truly fascinating. So it's 4 seconds delay for damaged shields to regen normally, and 4+1 if they're depleted? Seems reasonable. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4413	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:34:00 - [17] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: gbghg wrote: i remember when glitchy fluxes killed everything, ah good times. Tanks died to them. i got sniped out of my methana's driving seat by one of them, hell i remember someone hitting my myron with one once, scared the **** out of me. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1510	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:39:00 - [18] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Fluxes won't be the end of your clone, unless you immediately start taking fire after the flux (which seldom happens from my experience). Mostly true, but it'll still suck hard getting hit by one. You're getting 30-90HP back before the punishment begins if your opponent engaged right. Which is as it should be, I think. Caldari heavy will be very deadly up close to people who don't pack fluxes, but it has a definite weakness. I imagine most people will still pack locus grenades in general, however, so the Caldari Sentinel may be mostly safe. The new heavy suits are stacking up the way I thought they would, though. As far as I can tell, the pecking order would be: Amarr = Gallente > Caldari > Minmatar or possibly... Amarr > Gallente > Caldari > Minmatar Oh well. I'm probably skilling into all of them. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Galthur Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 299	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:39:00 - [19] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: So I checked with CCP Remnant, and the Caldari Sentinel Shield Depleted Recharge Delay is supposed to be 1. It is not a typo. The more you know! Well, that is truly fascinating. So it's 4 seconds delay for damaged shields to regen normally, and 4+1 if they're depleted? Seems reasonable. No 4 second if damaged 1 second if depleted You flux a heavy and he'll start regening 1 second later. Get recruits for me, receive millions of ISK. Buying BPO Codes. [Forum Level: 8] [Scamming Level: 3]
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 62	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:40:00 - [20] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: Fluxes won't be the end of your clone, unless you immediately start taking fire after the flux (which seldom happens from my experience). Mostly true, but it'll still suck hard getting hit by one. You're getting 30-90HP back before the punishment begins if your opponent engaged right. Which is as it should be, I think. Caldari heavy will be very deadly up close to people who don't pack fluxes, but it has a definite weakness. I imagine most people will still pack locus grenades in general, however, so the Caldari Sentinel may be mostly safe. The new heavy suits aren't stacking up the way I thought they would. As far as I can tell, the pecking order will be: Amarr = Gallente > Caldari > Minmatar or possibly... Amarr > Gallente > Caldari > Minmatar Oh well. I'm probably skilling into all of them. How is Amarr better for resisting Rail weapons with SHIELD ONLY. They have more base armor than Gallente but Gallente armor RESISTS THINGS BETTER.

Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1746	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:45:00 - [21] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: So I checked with CCP Remnant, and the Caldari Sentinel Shield Depleted Recharge Delay is supposed to be 1. It is not a typo. The more you know! Well, that is truly fascinating. So it's 4 seconds delay for damaged shields to regen normally, and 4+1 if they're depleted? Seems reasonable. Nope. 4 seconds for regen to kick in if the shields are damaged. 1 second for regen to kick in if they are depleted. They regenerate faster if they are depleted. The Amarr Logistics suit used to do the same thing in Uprising 1.0 It took 4 seconds if they were depleted, and 7 seconds if they were damaged. I miss that, it was an interesting quirk... Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 397	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:45:00 - [22] - Quote Caldari Sentinels will have the highest amount of High Powered Slots. Considering the trend has been damage mods, they will do the most amount of damage with their guns though likely have the lowest life. They are going to be a monster with Forge Guns...
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1510	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:47:00 - [23] - Quote bamboo x wrote: How is Amarr better for resisting Rail weapons with SHIELD ONLY. They have more base armor than Gallente but Gallente armor RESISTS THINGS BETTER. Amarr bonus completely defangs Combat Rifles and HMG. The latter part combined with higher base HP means it will reliably beat down any other Heavy Frame toe-to-toe. The shield bonus doesn't look like much at first glance, but that means Rail Rifles are only doing 80% damage to your shields. It isn't as good against RR as the Gallente Heavy is, but it's still better than Caldari and Minmatar. So in short, Amarr Frame is second best at dealing with RR, and the best heavy frame for dealing with literally everything else, including other heavies. This leads me conclude it's the best fattie frame. I say all this as someone who really wanted to specialize in Minmatar frames, but hey, I'm adaptable. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 53	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:59:00 - [24] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Ankbar Latrommi wrote: not yet, it would seem. I would expect in the future there would be hardeners. That's how ships handle resistance holes. Suits that are coming in a couple weeks aren't going to annihilated by flux grenades because of hypothetical hardeners that are coming ??? That logic. It been brought up, but the consensus is no one cares, **** was flipped at the dep shield delay listed at 1sec tho. Wait and see fluxes might get changed. my bad, I did not mean to answer "So are flux nades going to annihilate Caldari Sentinels?" with "not yet". I was answering the un-asked question, "will my Caldari Sentinels be safe from flux grenades?" My bad. Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 63	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:09:00 - [25] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: bamboo x wrote: How is Amarr better for resisting Rail weapons with SHIELD ONLY. They have more base armor than Gallente but Gallente armor RESISTS THINGS BETTER. Amarr bonus completely defangs Combat Rifles and HMG. The latter part combined with higher base HP means it will reliably beat down any other Heavy Frame toe-to-toe. The shield bonus doesn't look like much at first glance, but that means Rail Rifles are only doing 80% damage to your shields. It isn't as good against RR as the Gallente Heavy is, but it's still better than Caldari and Minmatar. So in short, Amarr Frame is second best at dealing with RR, and the best heavy frame for dealing with literally everything else, including other heavies. This leads me conclude it's the best fattie frame. I say all this as someone who really wanted to specialize in Minmatar frames, but hey, I'm adaptable. Thanks, I actually do appreciate you making me realize that. Now I won't foolishly dump everything into Caldari Sentinel. Although you forgot about Explosive weapons.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1068	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:55:00 - [26] - Quote bamboo x wrote: I feel like this is topic-worthy because I was discussing this with someone in a squad, and I mentioned how Caldari and Gallente heavies are going to resist every weapon in the game except lasers and rails, respectively. Then he made me realize I had completely forgotten about flux grenades. I was actually considering specing into Caldari Sentinel. But if they don't resist flux grenades in any way, I'm not so sure. They should have a 25% resistance to FGs, not that it'll mater unless you can get your shield above 1,125 HP. Good luck. {:)}{3GÇó>


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