I always love reading the "remove 'x' content please" arguments. Last thing this game needs is less content - PC is the only thing that separates this game from a 100% match-maker shooter and, well, it just barely does that at the moment.

Removing ISK generation would just kill any reason to go into PC what-so-ever, the entire point of getting into PC is to make ISK and removing that defeats the entire purpose of a "risk vs reward" style gameplay. What we need is a more methodical way to go about it and one solution I really liked was having it so that clone packs could only be used to attack a district bordering a high-sec system. Gives a more tactical reason to have space in a certain area as opposed to just anywhere and it kills district locking all together in systems that -dont- border high-sec.

Only thing you need to do then is make it so that systems that can be attacked by those clone packs don't make any ISK from it; as previously stated. Gives players a reason and drive to push further into low-sec and more tactical space because otherwise they're subject to just constant attacks by just anyone and they don't make anything from it, only when their clones are at capacity in the district.

PC is content for what percentage of the playerbase? Of that percentage of the playerbase, what percentage get to do something more than overpaid "privates"? Even beyond that, how much of that content is anything more than simply epeen waving and deciding who to farm with next or which newcomer to **** on first.

The percentage of the playerbase that actually participates in PC is inconsequentially small in comparison to the percentage that doesn't. They are the only ones that will miss it while CCP rebuilds it from the ground up. I am not even sure that any work done so far on PC 2.0 should even be kept since most likely they are moving forward with the same broken premises. The content CCP should focus on giving us is full racial parity. If anything else, I'd say that PvE should be a higher priority than PC in any shape, form or fashion. I would be willing to wait for a summer "expansion" that introduces raidable PvE as well as reintroducing PC (as a non-broken, Active source of Income Generation if we didn't need to worry about the currently broken system poisoning the rest of the game.

Personally, I think expanding on the idea I presented earlier in this thread would be the perfect start for a new PC. It would make PC something that would encourage conflict as well as introducing other elements that the community has been requesting for a long time, PvE, PvEvP, player market in addition to science & industry and who can forget the fact that it would entwine Dust and Eve further (offering services to capsuleers and mercs alike through the surface infrastructure)

For all of the talk of BPOs being a detriment to the Dust economy, they are a drop in the bucket compared to the isk that is generated from nothing everyday under the current PC mechanics. I am fairly certain that anyone who can't see or admit that is simply trying to protect their cash cow no matter what the longterm damage to the game may be.

Which is more important to you, being stupid rich in a game on life support; or giving up your golden goose before travelling down Dust's road to recovery?

The more I play this game the more I realise the only thing keeping me here is the banter in corp squads. Play solo and you soon realise the game is stale and boring.

The graphics are pretty bad, the shooting mechanic is bad, my control scheme is supposedly supported but barely works correctly. PC matches are just a lag fest. Half of the maps if not more don't run at a consistent / decent framerate.

Shall I go on? I wonder, why DO I play this game?

Issues that have been here for over a year are STILL prevalent. CCP DEVS constantly away, the few that are here spout out the same party line "We are aware and are looking into it". BS CCP dont even try and lie to us. You dont give a damn , this is just a ploy to get more people to play EVE.

On top of that I went to check the EVE-O forums and you are breaking everything over there too. Yes I am disappointed. I don't think this game will ever reach its potential.

I find that very hard to believe, certain maps always stutter and have **** poor framerate in pubs, there is no way that in PC this is miraculously gone.

Besides I have read in other places that PC still sucks balls for framerate. Granted they helped to fix equipment spam but that is not the core issue, just one of many.

If they can be swayed by money, how can you know that they can't be swayed by the mere suggestion of more money?

This is New Eden after all, it isn't like betrayal is some unheard of practice.

I also feel that you are only viewing a small slice of the reason why "Dust players get into PC". You are viewing it from your own point of view and projecting that need for a hypercompetitive environment on all players that want to get involved in PC. I, for example, couldn't care less about a hypercompetitive environment, my desire for getting involved in PC is to claim ownership of my valley, land in New Eden, a place that I can call my own. Think of it as a provi-bloc type freeport where all would be welcome so long as they followed a few simple rules.
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Look well at the presumptuous arrogance displayed by this one. Remember him for he would have himself installed as your better if he could.

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