Hey, thanks for putting that thing at the top about the not caring don't read. Saved me some time.

While I agree with some of what is said here the timing of is just smells of an excuse. I'm sorry but DDB where never going to succeed at managing PFC. It may not be their fault, but lets not make excuses for them. Also I think there are way to many rules that have been put on PFC. Pretty sure it started out as fighting is mutual and don't take over someone else's district. Trying to make unenforceable rules is just a sign of inexperience here.

There are 2 ways to manage PFC. The old way where all the super powers that be do so and no one dares break the rules. The other is for a strong enough group to make examples of corps that break the rules. Realistically DDB never had this ability and should never have been tasked with the job.

I 100% think PFC needs to go and its a time and isk sink for any group that tries to manage it.

PFC was a good idea, but the implementation was faulty from the start.

What good are rules if they can't be enforced? Seems rather silly to me.

Either have the fortitude to enforce the rules, or give up.

PFC was a good idea, but the implementation was faulty from the start.

What good are rules if they can't be enforced? Seems rather silly to me.

Either have the fortitude to enforce the rules, or give up.

Arirana, while you have good points and valid arguments, you simply dont understand the very, VERY simple fact that there is nota soul here that will ever pay attention to anything you say. You soiled any and all credibility in the community long ago, but you already know that.

making any reasonable argument you really should utilize an alt that no one know about.

cause seriously, you showed your true colors long ago and most people worth a **** in the community dont forget those kind of things.

step back into the shadows of irrelevancy and keep workin on finding the next thing that u can be good at.

not tryin to be a d1ck, seriously. I have no problem with you as a person, but you having any form of credible input and feedback on this game that you played every single person not on your team the fool for months, just doesnt fly in these parts.

u blackballed yourself, and this particular community is WAY too small for it to ever be pushed aside or forgotten

You are correct that PFC is a community project, but it was created by EoN and Negative Feedback at the end of the CRONOS war. All of the major powers agreed to maintain it and use it as a training ground for their newer members.

When NF originally retired from PC EoN took up the mantel and made PFC less about the biggest fish in the pond having a place to safely duke it out and more about starter corps having a place to get their feet wet when it came to PFC. At this point PFC came closer to being in it's prime that it has before. The problem that this started though is that no longer were the members of PFC making the rules but an outside force.

Not only was there the problem of a litany of rules being made, but there was still never a clear and concise place for those rules. Newer PFC members have to dig through thread after thread and base their perception of what can and can't be done on Fight Club base on rumor and whisper. As one PFC member has put it, rather than enjoying their district they are forced to walk on eggshells fearful that they will break some unspoken rule of PFC and potentially loose their district. This is the sort of ambiguity that needs to be resolved.

Beers, Ariana, and others are right though that without force behind the rules they have no authority or power. Many corporations lurking in the shadows of Molden Health won't respect rules, but they will respect brute force. PFC will likely always be under threat from both without and within.

I do believe that an organized group formed by the members of PFC and with a strong backing will be able to bring order to PFC and ensure its continued operation. Is it guaranteed to work? No, but sitting idly by doesn't accomplish much. DDB has made a valiant attempt to keep order in the chaos and the community can thank them for their service, but there needs to be a new way forward if PFC is to not only survive but thrive.

Not only was there the problem of a litany of rules being made, but there was still never a clear and concise place for those rules. Newer PFC members have to dig through thread after thread and base their perception of what can and can't be done on Fight Club base on rumor and whisper. As one PFC member has put it, rather than enjoying their district they are forced to walk on eggshells fearful that they will break some unspoken rule of PFC and potentially loose their district

Hey, it's not like we don't read what he has to say. But, how do you expect me to take him seriously? Or anyone? How do you go from using the biggest in game glitch known to PC - to wanting to fix PC itself?

You say people change? I say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. idk what white world Arirana grew up in where, "I'm sorry" forgives, forgets, and rewinds, or if you ignore something you did wrong long enough time erases your crime... but in my world - if you **** me over I'll remember it.

It's like having an unnerfed flaylock when everyone else's was nerfed, how can you possibly make that comparison?

You glitch to win, spam equipment and play in SD to win, and now lock districts to win

Yeah, nobody wants your opinion on anything






Ever.

Except TTK was still high, so your attacks locked on, and you could do 2000 damage in a split second

Yeah sounds just like the flaylock.......rite gais

You're a moron.

Flaylock = Intended feature by CCP. They WANTED IT TO WORK THAT WAY.

Melee glitching = not intended. They did NOT want it to work that way.

Do you need things spelled out for you some more? It's bad enough that what you say is true - that CCP idea of balance is so bad that some weapons seem like cheating - but now you're trying to DEFEND what you did on the basis, "Well, other stuff is pretty cheap too, yo... even if they were intended features and what I did wasn't."