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Virtual Riot
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
136
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:13:00 -
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Look,
Everyone knows that scanners are really strong.
Its good to see that 360 scan will be getting a bit of a nerf in 1.8
But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps? You'll be surprised how much proto teams use it as a crutch in pubs. I literally run right through squads because they're too focused on their mini-map to notice me.
And you can too!
Its not even a huge cost in terms of PG/CPU. I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps.
Watch and be amazed my friends, watch and be amazed.
Literally every match, I break out my scanner and it gives me "NO MARGIN OF ERROR"
with the current meta as it is I should be seeing "SOME MARGIN OF ERROR" every time.
WHY ARE YOU NOT FITTING DAMPS LOL! |
BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
209
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:15:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:Look,
Everyone knows that scanners are really strong.
Its good to see that 360 scan will be getting a bit of a nerf in 1.8
But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps? You'll be surprised how much proto teams use it as a crutch in pubs. I literally run right through squads because they're too focused on their mini-map to notice me.
And you can too!
Its not even a huge cost in terms of PG/CPU. I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps.
Watch and be amazed my friends, watch and be amazed.
Literally every match, I break out my scanner and it gives me "NO MARGIN OF ERROR"
with the current meta as it is I should be seeing "SOME MARGIN OF ERROR" every time.
WHY ARE YOU NOT FITTING DAMPS LOL!
My Complex Damp does not Block a complex scanner. This is an issue since equipment within the same tier are not balancing each other out. |
Virtual Riot
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
136
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:17:00 -
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Virtual Riot wrote:Look,
Everyone knows that scanners are really strong.
Its good to see that 360 scan will be getting a bit of a nerf in 1.8
But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps? You'll be surprised how much proto teams use it as a crutch in pubs. I literally run right through squads because they're too focused on their mini-map to notice me.
And you can too!
Its not even a huge cost in terms of PG/CPU. I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps.
Watch and be amazed my friends, watch and be amazed.
Literally every match, I break out my scanner and it gives me "NO MARGIN OF ERROR"
with the current meta as it is I should be seeing "SOME MARGIN OF ERROR" every time.
WHY ARE YOU NOT FITTING DAMPS LOL! My Complex Damp does not Block a complex scanner. This is an issue since equipment within the same tier are not balancing each other out.
Except a scanner requires an equipment slot, a far more valuable slot that 2 lowly low slots (lol), and a proto scanner costs near 2x the PG and cpu of damps. I don't really think thats a valid argument. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1719
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:19:00 -
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As an armor tanked Amarr dropsuit user. No thanks. I can't afford to use damps, I'm not fast enough to pull it off even without my plates on. I'll stick to my tried and true stand and deliver play style...
Yours Truly,
Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
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Piercing Serenity
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
509
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:22:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Virtual Riot wrote:Look,
Everyone knows that scanners are really strong.
Its good to see that 360 scan will be getting a bit of a nerf in 1.8
But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps? You'll be surprised how much proto teams use it as a crutch in pubs. I literally run right through squads because they're too focused on their mini-map to notice me.
And you can too!
Its not even a huge cost in terms of PG/CPU. I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps.
Watch and be amazed my friends, watch and be amazed.
Literally every match, I break out my scanner and it gives me "NO MARGIN OF ERROR"
with the current meta as it is I should be seeing "SOME MARGIN OF ERROR" every time.
WHY ARE YOU NOT FITTING DAMPS LOL! My Complex Damp does not Block a complex scanner. This is an issue since equipment within the same tier are not balancing each other out. Except a scanner requires an equipment slot, a far more valuable slot that 2 lowly low slots (lol), and a proto scanner costs near 2x the PG and cpu of damps. I don't really think thats a valid argument.
Sure it is. An equipment slot to a logi is nothing. To an assault, its also negligible. So you can't drop a nanohive. Just run to a supply depot.
I have one complex damp on all of my suits, and two on a second one designed to beat all scanners except for the duvolle focused. But as a caldari assault, I have to rely on a compact nanohive for repairs, can't add any regs, and have to sacrifice my primary tank if I want to speed up the repair rate.
Totally unequal.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
380
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:30:00 -
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Cheer up a bit will you
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
488
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:34:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:As an armor tanked Amarr dropsuit user. No thanks. I can't afford to use damps, I'm not fast enough to pull it off even without my plates on. I'll stick to my tried and true stand and deliver play style...
Yea my minm logi is squishy enough as it is. I just ignore the you've been scanned spam and assume I am always scanned.
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Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
472
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:34:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:
Except a scanner requires an equipment slot, a far more valuable slot that 2 lowly low slots (lol), and a proto scanner costs near 2x the PG and cpu of damps. I don't really think thats a valid argument.
Lol, right? Why did they even put lows in the game?
/sarcasm.
I contribute nothing.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2878
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:40:00 -
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I stopped reading at "crutch."
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
619
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:42:00 -
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In pub matches, and barring a few situational fittings (and scouts), armour > dampeners. Perhaps if ttk was improved, more would use them.
Anyway, I'll be using dampeners on the new scouts. But my assaults have much more important things to put in the lows, namely modules that increase the chances that I will survive as I assault things. And heavies... Dampeners are useless. |
Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
2917
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:44:00 -
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Yeah no I caught on to dampened proto mediums a little while back and pack enhanced precision enhancers just to make sure.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
4138
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:45:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:
But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps?
Because A.Scanners > Dampeners.
Example:
You can equip a Proto active scanner and it costs 1 EQ
In order to COUNTER this Proto scanner, a med frame needs 2 LOW SLOTS to equip dual cx profle dampners.
1 EQ < 2 Low slots
Not to mention EVEN then, you will get scanned by the Proto Focuses DVLLE A.Scanner, which, in a very BAD joke from CCP, the only way to counter it is with a Lv 5 Scout , with Lv 5 Dampening and 4 Cx Profile Dampeners.
So yea.
Proto Scanner SP < Scout 5 , Dampening 5
Now do you understand ?
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Kaylee Veloc
ShootBreakStab
61
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:56:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps.
So I just put that into the fitting tool on a std medium gal frame and it gives you a profile of 31.06 which will get you under an adv scanner of 36 but not the proto at 28. You need dampening 5 and 2 complex damps on a medium frame to beat proto scans apart from focused. |
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