DUST Search - The Truth About Scanners

Virtual Riot wrote:

BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:

Virtual Riot wrote:

Look,
Everyone knows that scanners are really strong.
Its good to see that 360 scan will be getting a bit of a nerf in 1.8

But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps? You'll be surprised how much proto teams use it as a crutch in pubs. I literally run right through squads because they're too focused on their mini-map to notice me.
And you can too!

Its not even a huge cost in terms of PG/CPU. I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps.
Watch and be amazed my friends, watch and be amazed.

Literally every match, I break out my scanner and it gives me "NO MARGIN OF ERROR"
with the current meta as it is I should be seeing "SOME MARGIN OF ERROR" every time.

WHY ARE YOU NOT FITTING DAMPS LOL!

My Complex Damp does not Block a complex scanner. This is an issue since equipment within the same tier are not balancing each other out.

Except a scanner requires an equipment slot, a far more valuable slot that 2 lowly low slots (lol), and a proto scanner costs near 2x the PG and cpu of damps. I don't really think thats a valid argument.

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Virtual Riot The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 136	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:13:00 - [1] - Quote Look, Everyone knows that scanners are really strong. Its good to see that 360 scan will be getting a bit of a nerf in 1.8 But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps? You'll be surprised how much proto teams use it as a crutch in pubs. I literally run right through squads because they're too focused on their mini-map to notice me. And you can too! Its not even a huge cost in terms of PG/CPU. I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps. Watch and be amazed my friends, watch and be amazed. Literally every match, I break out my scanner and it gives me "NO MARGIN OF ERROR" with the current meta as it is I should be seeing "SOME MARGIN OF ERROR" every time. WHY ARE YOU NOT FITTING DAMPS LOL!
BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 209	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:15:00 - [2] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: Look, Everyone knows that scanners are really strong. Its good to see that 360 scan will be getting a bit of a nerf in 1.8 But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps? You'll be surprised how much proto teams use it as a crutch in pubs. I literally run right through squads because they're too focused on their mini-map to notice me. And you can too! Its not even a huge cost in terms of PG/CPU. I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps. Watch and be amazed my friends, watch and be amazed. Literally every match, I break out my scanner and it gives me "NO MARGIN OF ERROR" with the current meta as it is I should be seeing "SOME MARGIN OF ERROR" every time. WHY ARE YOU NOT FITTING DAMPS LOL! My Complex Damp does not Block a complex scanner. This is an issue since equipment within the same tier are not balancing each other out.
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 136	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:17:00 - [3] - Quote BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote: Virtual Riot wrote: Look, Everyone knows that scanners are really strong. Its good to see that 360 scan will be getting a bit of a nerf in 1.8 But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps? You'll be surprised how much proto teams use it as a crutch in pubs. I literally run right through squads because they're too focused on their mini-map to notice me. And you can too! Its not even a huge cost in terms of PG/CPU. I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps. Watch and be amazed my friends, watch and be amazed. Literally every match, I break out my scanner and it gives me "NO MARGIN OF ERROR" with the current meta as it is I should be seeing "SOME MARGIN OF ERROR" every time. WHY ARE YOU NOT FITTING DAMPS LOL! My Complex Damp does not Block a complex scanner. This is an issue since equipment within the same tier are not balancing each other out. Except a scanner requires an equipment slot, a far more valuable slot that 2 lowly low slots (lol), and a proto scanner costs near 2x the PG and cpu of damps. I don't really think thats a valid argument.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1719	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:19:00 - [4] - Quote As an armor tanked Amarr dropsuit user. No thanks. I can't afford to use damps, I'm not fast enough to pull it off even without my plates on. I'll stick to my tried and true stand and deliver play style... Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Piercing Serenity Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 509	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:22:00 - [5] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote: Virtual Riot wrote: Look, Everyone knows that scanners are really strong. Its good to see that 360 scan will be getting a bit of a nerf in 1.8 But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps? You'll be surprised how much proto teams use it as a crutch in pubs. I literally run right through squads because they're too focused on their mini-map to notice me. And you can too! Its not even a huge cost in terms of PG/CPU. I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps. Watch and be amazed my friends, watch and be amazed. Literally every match, I break out my scanner and it gives me "NO MARGIN OF ERROR" with the current meta as it is I should be seeing "SOME MARGIN OF ERROR" every time. WHY ARE YOU NOT FITTING DAMPS LOL! My Complex Damp does not Block a complex scanner. This is an issue since equipment within the same tier are not balancing each other out. Except a scanner requires an equipment slot, a far more valuable slot that 2 lowly low slots (lol), and a proto scanner costs near 2x the PG and cpu of damps. I don't really think thats a valid argument. Sure it is. An equipment slot to a logi is nothing. To an assault, its also negligible. So you can't drop a nanohive. Just run to a supply depot. I have one complex damp on all of my suits, and two on a second one designed to beat all scanners except for the duvolle focused. But as a caldari assault, I have to rely on a compact nanohive for repairs, can't add any regs, and have to sacrifice my primary tank if I want to speed up the repair rate. Totally unequal. DUST 514 BETA VET 16.2M Lifetime SP SH4T --> PFBHz --> PFB --> SH4T --> Fatal
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 380	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:30:00 - [6] - Quote 6.8 IMDB All the truth you need Cheer up a bit will you (n+ëGùòpâ«Gùò)n+ë:n+Ñn+ƒG£º:n+Ñn+ƒG£º Personal best K/A/D in 1.7 26/5/1
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 488	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:34:00 - [7] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: As an armor tanked Amarr dropsuit user. No thanks. I can't afford to use damps, I'm not fast enough to pull it off even without my plates on. I'll stick to my tried and true stand and deliver play style... Yea my minm logi is squishy enough as it is. I just ignore the you've been scanned spam and assume I am always scanned. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 472	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:34:00 - [8] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: Except a scanner requires an equipment slot, a far more valuable slot that 2 lowly low slots (lol), and a proto scanner costs near 2x the PG and cpu of damps. I don't really think thats a valid argument. Lol, right? Why did they even put lows in the game? /sarcasm. I contribute nothing.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2878	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:40:00 - [9] - Quote I stopped reading at "crutch." // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 619	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:42:00 - [10] - Quote In pub matches, and barring a few situational fittings (and scouts), armour > dampeners. Perhaps if ttk was improved, more would use them. Anyway, I'll be using dampeners on the new scouts. But my assaults have much more important things to put in the lows, namely modules that increase the chances that I will survive as I assault things. And heavies... Dampeners are useless.

Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2917	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:44:00 - [11] - Quote Yeah no I caught on to dampened proto mediums a little while back and pack enhanced precision enhancers just to make sure. Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 4138	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:45:00 - [12] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: But honestly guys, if scanners are so strong, why are you not fitting damps? Because A.Scanners > Dampeners. Example: You can equip a Proto active scanner and it costs 1 EQ In order to COUNTER this Proto scanner, a med frame needs 2 LOW SLOTS to equip dual cx profle dampners. 1 EQ < 2 Low slots Not to mention EVEN then, you will get scanned by the Proto Focuses DVLLE A.Scanner, which, in a very BAD joke from CCP, the only way to counter it is with a Lv 5 Scout , with Lv 5 Dampening and 4 Cx Profile Dampeners. So yea. Proto Scanner SP < Scout 5 , Dampening 5 Now do you understand ? GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Kaylee Veloc ShootBreakStab 61	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:56:00 - [13] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: I don't think yal realize that you can dodge all but the proto focused scanner on med suits with profile dampening to 3, and 2 enhanced damps. So I just put that into the fitting tool on a std medium gal frame and it gives you a profile of 31.06 which will get you under an adv scanner of 36 but not the proto at 28. You need dampening 5 and 2 complex damps on a medium frame to beat proto scans apart from focused.


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