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richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 685	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:15:00 - [1] - Quote Its a first person SHOOTER Not a first person SUPPORTER compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8497	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:18:00 - [2] - Quote It's a pain when people sit back and pad their KDR instead of trying for objectives. Mind you, there's no incentive to win in a pubmatch so why not I guess... Level 5 Proficiency 3 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
ZiwZih Seraphim Initiative.. 370	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:20:00 - [3] - Quote I concur -- all tankers should be forced to use PS Move! ZEN 514
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2151	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:21:00 - [4] - Quote I'd like to go on record as saying I don't give a f*ck Selling Rare Templar BPO's 250Mil ISK
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 990	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:21:00 - [5] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Its a first person SHOOTER Not a first person SUPPORTER ._. ._. .______________________________________. bro, aren't you in Rainbow Effect? One of the only corps that really does focus on KD/R? Anyways. A majority of people don't care that much, others do. For a corp I can kinda see why they would care for KD/R but you would have to deal with it like how I heard that King Babar deals with it. Personally, it doesn't matter too much to me. I only want to continue to increase because it means I'm getting better and losing less ISK. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Espartoi Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day 26	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:24:00 - [6] - Quote There is a topic calling about removing KDR, people should go there. You think that everything must be like you want and all is unfair? the answer is simple as Deal with it or GTFO.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 686	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:30:00 - [7] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Its a first person SHOOTER Not a first person SUPPORTER ._. ._. .______________________________________. bro, aren't you in Rainbow Effect? One of the only corps that really does focus on KD/R? Anyways. A majority of people don't care that much, others do. For a corp I can kinda see why they would care for KD/R but you would have to deal with it like how I heard that King Babar deals with it. Personally, it doesn't matter too much to me. I only want to continue to increase because it means I'm getting better and losing less ISK. K/DR Doesn't mean everything to us its only easy to judge a player. we do have members who don't meet the "requirement". compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 916	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:33:00 - [8] - Quote I'd rather have more emphasis on the W/L ratio, as this tells more about the person's skill being useful in a team rather than just being good at killing. And on top of that, getting an ISK efficiency ratio, basically an average of how much ISK you gained vs. ISK lost during a match, would be really neat. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 25th
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 686	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:38:00 - [9] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: I'd rather have more emphasis on the W/L ratio, as this tells more about the person's skill being useful in a team rather than just being good at killing. And on top of that, getting an ISK efficiency ratio, basically an average of how much ISK you gained vs. ISK lost during a match, would be really neat. Soooo A bunch of proto/tank ambush squads? compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 916	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:40:00 - [10] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Soooo A bunch of proto/tank ambush squads? Your point being? All stats can be easily boosted/padded if you really wanted to, I'm saying that these two figures would be more reliable for determining a player's skill. And for the record, I run skirmish in standard scout suits most of the time. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 25th

Supernus Gigas Star Giants 118	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:42:00 - [11] - Quote There's nothing wrong with caring about your K/DR. As a Heavy, killing bitches and blowing ** up is all I've got going for me, so my K/DR is kinda important to me. I'll hack an objective from time to time, but I'd much rather watch the hackers back so I can kill any enemies that would would have killed both of us had we both been hacking. Not to mention I'm awfully slow, so by the time I get anywhere, someone else's already got the objective hacked. FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!**
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 686	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:44:00 - [12] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Soooo A bunch of proto/tank ambush squads? Your point being? All stats can be easily boosted/padded if you really wanted to, I'm saying that these two figures would be more reliable for determining a player's skill. Exactly why have a stat semi-unrelated to a FPS? compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Teilka Darkmist 88	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:46:00 - [13] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Its a first person SHOOTER Not a first person SUPPORTER Nearly right. It's a first person TEAM BASED shooter. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 686	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:48:00 - [14] - Quote Teilka Darkmist wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Its a first person SHOOTER Not a first person SUPPORTER Nearly right. It's a first person SQUAD BASED shooter. Almost Lol Team compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Mad Mav DUST University Ivy League 337	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:48:00 - [15] - Quote Feel like lifetime War Points would be more important in Dust. Though playing a pure killer kinda gimps you in that department unless your unleashing the wrath of God. Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 647	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:52:00 - [16] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: It's a pain when people sit back and pad their KDR instead of trying for objectives. Mind you, there's no incentive to win in a pubmatch so why not I guess... Exactly, especially when you're losing, why risk dying over 10 times for less reward of dying no times with a Rail tank/Sniper in the redline?
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 377	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:53:00 - [17] - Quote im against removing kdr. Its a freakin FPS to big with. But im not against adding for stats so that we can judge different players differently depending on here role. Av players are Damage done/ Damage received. Etc. I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 377	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:53:00 - [18] - Quote Obvious answer: Their carecups are overflowing :D Cheer up a bit will you (n+ëGùòpâ«Gùò)n+ë:n+Ñn+ƒG£º:n+Ñn+ƒG£º Personal best K/A/D in 1.7 26/5/1
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 49	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:53:00 - [19] - Quote I'm pretty sure during the first month or 2 of playing Dust my KDR was permanently screwed. Toward the end of the match - sometimes when our team wasn't losing - I would commit suicide many times so it would be the only thing on the kill feed.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 916	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:54:00 - [20] - Quote richiesutie2 wrote: Exactly why have a stat semi-unrelated to a FPS? Why not? I don't see a way it would hurt anybody to have a stat displaying your ISK efficiency. Your suits have actual value in this game, calculating how big is your net profit from matches is useful, because if you have a good net profit you can buy better stuff. And as Teilka above me said, this is a team based shooter. You win games by helping your team, not just by killing everything in sight. Pretending that your KDR is the ultimate stat to determine your skill is foolish. You might say that ambush disproves this. I'll say that if all you ever do is run ambush, perhaps even in all proto suits, you're a sad person. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 25th

Teilka Darkmist 92	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:54:00 - [21] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Its a first person SHOOTER Not a first person SUPPORTER Nearly right. It's a first person SQUAD BASED shooter. Almost Lol Team Actually, I was right. It's team based with the team supposed to be broken down into squads. Whether you have squads or not, you always have a team and you win or lose as a team. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 700	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:58:00 - [22] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: I'd rather have more emphasis on the W/L ratio, as this tells more about the person's skill being useful in a team rather than just being good at killing. With people getting put into matches that are already half over and the matchmaker putting together lopsided teams W/L means jack sh!t. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Teilka Darkmist 92	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:03:00 - [23] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Denak Kalamari wrote: I'd rather have more emphasis on the W/L ratio, as this tells more about the person's skill being useful in a team rather than just being good at killing. With people getting put into matches that are already half over and the matchmaker putting together lopsided teams W/L means jack sh!t. You mean sometimes people are put in at the start of matches? It's been so long I've forgotten what that was like. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3737	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:03:00 - [24] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Its a first person SHOOTER Not a first person SUPPORTER ._. ._. .______________________________________. bro, aren't you in Rainbow Effect? One of the only corps that really does focus on KD/R? Anyways. A majority of people don't care that much, others do. For a corp I can kinda see why they would care for KD/R but you would have to deal with it like how I heard that King Babar deals with it. Personally, it doesn't matter too much to me. I only want to continue to increase because it means I'm getting better and losing less ISK. K/DR Doesn't mean everything to us its only easy to judge a player. we do have members who don't meet the "requirement". It doesn't even serve a purpose of judging players. Looking at pure stats, would you rather have the guy with a 2.0 kdr and 10 kills, or a .5 kdr and 1000? I am your scan error.
Teilka Darkmist 92	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:06:00 - [25] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: It doesn't even serve a purpose of judging players. Looking at pure stats, would you rather have the guy with a 2.0 kdr and 10 kills, or a .5 kdr and 1000? The first one. Since the second one has found an exploit that lets them die 500 times in a match and is probably going to get banned. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 686	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:10:00 - [26] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Its a first person SHOOTER Not a first person SUPPORTER ._. ._. .______________________________________. bro, aren't you in Rainbow Effect? One of the only corps that really does focus on KD/R? Anyways. A majority of people don't care that much, others do. For a corp I can kinda see why they would care for KD/R but you would have to deal with it like how I heard that King Babar deals with it. Personally, it doesn't matter too much to me. I only want to continue to increase because it means I'm getting better and losing less ISK. K/DR Doesn't mean everything to us its only easy to judge a player. we do have members who don't meet the "requirement". It doesn't even serve a purpose of judging players. Looking at pure stats, would you rather have the guy with a 2.0 kdr and 10 kills, or a .5 kdr and 1000? How about 2.0 KDR 1000 kills or 0.5KDR 1000k kills which would you rather? compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3197	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:12:00 - [27] - Quote Honestly, who gives a $#!T about their KDR? It's a first person shooter and your going to die regardless of how good you are. Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 686	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:13:00 - [28] - Quote Teilka Darkmist wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Its a first person SHOOTER Not a first person SUPPORTER Nearly right. It's a first person SQUAD BASED shooter. Almost Lol Team Actually, I was right. It's team based with the team supposed to be broken down into squads. Whether you have squads or not, you always have a team and you win or lose as a team. How many times has a WHOLE team won a match compared to a single squad in a team. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Teilka Darkmist 97	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:21:00 - [29] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Its a first person SHOOTER Not a first person SUPPORTER Nearly right. It's a first person SQUAD BASED shooter. Almost Lol Team Actually, I was right. It's team based with the team supposed to be broken down into squads. Whether you have squads or not, you always have a team and you win or lose as a team. How many times has a WHOLE team won a match compared to a single squad in a team. You don't lose just because you weren't in the best squad on the team. I get your point and all, but it's possible to win a game with all solo randoms. Usually only when the opposing team is solo randoms as well (or absolutely useless) but it's possible. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 686	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:37:00 - [30] - Quote Teilka Darkmist wrote: You don't lose just because you weren't in the best squad on the team. I get your point and all, but it's possible to win a game with all solo randoms. Usually only when the opposing team is solo randoms as well (or absolutely useless) but it's possible. All that i'm saying is its very rare. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)

knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1245	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:38:00 - [31] - Quote people padding their KDR aren't team players they aren't playing the objective to win the game. [this angers people who play for the win] playing without caring about your KDR often isn't profitable though. KDR is a measure of isk efficiency within the game and should be acknowledged as such. there is an equilibrium that needs to be reached where you have a balanced KDR(you're profitable) and you play the objective as well. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
Teilka Darkmist 97	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:43:00 - [32] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: people padding their KDR aren't team players they aren't playing the objective to win the game. [this angers people who play for the win] playing without caring about your KDR often isn't profitable though. KDR is a measure of isk efficiency within the game and should be acknowledged as such. there is an equilibrium that needs to be reached where you have a balanced KDR(you're profitable) and you play the objective as well. Well, the last match I was in I had a fatal error before I got to see my KDR so I don't know what that was. But the one before I got a KDR of 7. Does that mean I'm better than the people who got 20-30 kills but a KDR lower than 7? What if I add that I didn't die at all so I only got 7 kills? How about if I add that my KDR is usually around 1 or less? (Although that does include me being killed multiple times) When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.


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