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Unholy HateGore
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:20:00 -
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I have recently gotten my scrambler rifle to lvl 5 proto. I am now working on proficiency. I hear there will be a nerf coming. Does anyone know how bad of a nerf it will be. I love that rifle and took time and energy to get it to where it is. Finally got complex Dam Mod as well. It is going to suck if all my time and effort was wasted due to a rifle being usless due to nerfing.
Can some one give me some info? |
Kierkegaard Soren
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:28:00 -
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The nerf will be so hard that when you equip your scram it will simply melt in your hands and strip all the gold op plating from your armour.
In all seriousness though, I'm not entirely sure. If the nerf is based off of the communities feedback/incessant whining, then expect your hip fire accuracy to be reduced; the current popular opinion is that it's too good in close quarters combat considering how strong it is at all other ranges.
I haven't heard anything official from the Devs however, and I do like to keep an eye on the forums.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:30:00 -
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Never heard of any form of nerf to it.
Nerfs have never made a weapon useless, save swarm launchers. Even laser rifles are just overshadowed by rail rifles.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:32:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Never heard of any form of nerf to it.
Nerfs have never made a weapon useless, save swarm launchers. Even laser rifles are just overshadowed by rail rifles.
*even swarm launchers. The rapid fire guts an unhardened tank.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Unholy HateGore
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:32:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The nerf will be so hard that when you equip your scram it will simply melt in your hands and strip all the gold op plating from your armour.
In all seriousness though, I'm not entirely sure. If the nerf is based off of the communities feedback/incessant whining, then expect your hip fire accuracy to be reduced; the current popular opinion is that it's too good in close quarters combat considering how strong it is at all other ranges.
I haven't heard anything official from the Devs however, and I do like to keep an eye on the forums.
Well it's pretty good even at longer distance. As long as I can keep a bead on them, they go down. |
Beamer 325
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:33:00 -
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Unholy HateGore wrote:I have recently gotten my scrambler rifle to lvl 5 proto. I am now working on proficiency. I hear there will be a nerf coming. Does anyone know how bad of a nerf it will be. I love that rifle and took time and energy to get it to where it is. Finally got complex Dam Mod as well. It is going to suck if all my time and effort was wasted due to a rifle being usless due to nerfing.
Can some one give me some info? I have 3 lvl 5 weapons that were nerfed into the ground. Swarm, flaylock, forge. No one better lay a finger on my easy button. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:33:00 -
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Lol i'm loving the standard again, i remember when it first came out and i loved it and now i do once more (with my 2 complex damage mod of course), it probably will recieve a nerf...
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:33:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Never heard of any form of nerf to it.
Nerfs have never made a weapon useless, save swarm launchers. Even laser rifles are just overshadowed by rail rifles. *even swarm launchers. The rapid fire guts an unhardened tank. Only militia and only if you use 3-4 swarm Launchers.
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ResistanceGTA
Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:33:00 -
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I believe the big nerf is in the form of the Amarr Assault losing the heat buildup reduction as you level it up.
Other nerfs, haven't heard much, what with the Rail Rifle existing... |
Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:42:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:I believe the big nerf is in the form of the Amarr Assault losing the heat buildup reduction as you level it up.
Other nerfs, haven't heard much, what with the Rail Rifle existing...
Yup ^
This is essentially the nerf, it removes the main 'problem' with the weapon.
Otherwise the Rail Rifle seems to be nastier and much more popular than the ScR right now, so you should be fine. |
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
1142
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:45:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Never heard of any form of nerf to it.
Nerfs have never made a weapon useless, save swarm launchers. Even laser rifles are just overshadowed by rail rifles. *even swarm launchers. The rapid fire guts an unhardened tank. I still don't understand how people rapid fire them. I always lose lock and have to relock after I fire.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:45:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Never heard of any form of nerf to it.
Nerfs have never made a weapon useless, save swarm launchers. Even laser rifles are just overshadowed by rail rifles. *even swarm launchers. The rapid fire guts an unhardened tank. Only militia and only if you use 3-4 swarm Launchers.
Dunno what you're talking about; even the ADV ones do a number on my Gunny. Not too often, although that said, the infamous MLT rail isn't too successful in that respect either.
The problem IMO is that it takes two guys to do it efficiently thanks to hardeners and the short locking range.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:46:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The nerf will be so hard that when you equip your scram it will simply melt in your hands and strip all the gold op plating from your armour.
In all seriousness though, I'm not entirely sure. If the nerf is based off of the communities feedback/incessant whining, then expect your hip fire accuracy to be reduced; the current popular opinion is that it's too good in close quarters combat considering how strong it is at all other ranges.
I haven't heard anything official from the Devs however, and I do like to keep an eye on the forums.
Well.....Already this in fact ^^ Already melting every 10 shots |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:47:00 -
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I have heard nothing about a scrambler rifle nerf and there is no dev post on the matter. Perhaps it's conjecture based on the devs wanting to raise TTK, but there is no solid information. Don't worry about it.
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Kierkegaard Soren
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:54:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I have heard nothing about a scrambler rifle nerf and there is no dev post on the matter. Perhaps it's conjecture based on the devs wanting to raise TTK, but there is no solid information. Don't worry about it.
In other words, panic uncontrollably.
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.26 15:54:00 -
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All rifles will eventually get nerfed, they're the reason behind TTK being so low.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.01.26 16:01:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:All rifles will eventually get nerfed, they're the reason behind TTK being so low.
This.
And your dust zen moment: if all 4 rifles are gimped equivalently, is it really a nerf?
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.26 16:09:00 -
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The only nerf it needs is its RoF dropped to reasonably 'human' levels. From 705 to 570. 11.75 rounds per second to 9.5 rounds per second. This would satisfy the Shield Brigades thirst for a nerf, and make the use of modded controllers less useful with the weapon.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.26 16:10:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:All rifles will eventually get nerfed, they're the reason behind TTK being so low. This. And your dust zen moment: if all 4 rifles are gimped equivalently, is it really a nerf? Nope, just a buff to the other weapons, which sorely need it.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.26 17:14:00 -
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Unholy HateGore wrote:I have recently gotten my scrambler rifle to lvl 5 proto. I am now working on proficiency. I hear there will be a nerf coming. Does anyone know how bad of a nerf it will be. I love that rifle and took time and energy to get it to where it is. Finally got complex Dam Mod as well. It is going to suck if all my time and effort was wasted due to a rifle being usless due to nerfing.
Can some one give me some info?
They better give it some bloody range if they do. No point being able to deal damahe from afar if you can't see what you're hitting.
No.
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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
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Posted - 2014.01.26 17:35:00 -
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I have literally only just today less than an hour ago gotten complex damage mods so let's just leave it alone even though in the past i agreed it should be nerfed
i use 2x complex damage mods, CRW, prof 5 but I have an LP proto suit with PRO scr and 3x complex, now that's a beast. |
Unholy HateGore
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.01.26 17:50:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:All rifles will eventually get nerfed, they're the reason behind TTK being so low. Yes the Nyain San are getting a bit annoying. Are they too afraid to run and gun???? Really, how many damn tanks do you REALLY need on the field. Def not fair. Tanks squads against nerfed foot soldiers. You need half a team going AV to control them and that never happens. Only see 1 to 2 people even attempting AV attacks. |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.01.26 18:09:00 -
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there has been no talk of a scrambler nerf... But you should expect one seen as it's the most OP weapon in game (close to RR) but the RR hits hard and you know what you get..... The Scrambler fitted with prof. and mods is a joke..... no AR should hit that hard
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.26 18:18:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:there has been no talk of a scrambler nerf... But you should expect one seen as it's the most OP weapon in game (close to RR) but the RR hits hard and you know what you get..... The Scrambler fitted with prof. and mods is a joke..... no AR should hit that hard
I notice you don't even mention the damage possible with a Boundless Combat Rifle. Here's guessing you're a CR user |
BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
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Posted - 2014.01.26 18:31:00 -
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The nerf to the Scrambler Rifle is the removal of the heat sink on the amaar assault bonus |
Unholy HateGore
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.01.27 11:44:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:I have literally only just today less than an hour ago gotten complex damage mods so let's just leave it alone even though in the past i agreed it should be nerfed
i use 2x complex damage mods, CRW, prof 5 but I have an LP proto suit with PRO scr and 3x complex, now that's a beast.
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
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Posted - 2014.01.27 11:52:00 -
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You can guarantee that the CR and the RR will get a generous nerf. This is given. Those two weapons are the most OP guns I have seen so far in this game and I-Šve been around since early beta.
This can not happen soon enough!
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.01.27 12:39:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:You can guarantee that the CR and the RR will get a generous nerf. This is given. Those two weapons are the most OP guns I have seen so far in this game and I-Šve been around since early beta.
This can not happen soon enough!
I dunno about that, the old TAR was pretty ridiculous. Modded controller = full auto sniper rifle god mode. RR without the spool up time!
Sends a chill down my spine just thinking about it.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.27 12:47:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:You can guarantee that the CR and the RR will get a generous nerf. This is given. Those two weapons are the most OP guns I have seen so far in this game and I-Šve been around since early beta.
This can not happen soon enough!
To be tootally honest the CR and SCR are pretty close in combat effectiveness...the CR is just slightly more popular...the RR is well its the RR... |
xSir Campsalotx
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.01.27 12:55:00 -
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Cannot wait for that scrambler nerf tired of having a light weapon outclassing my HMG in cqc |
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Kierkegaard Soren
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.27 14:23:00 -
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xSir Campsalotx wrote:Cannot wait for that scrambler nerf tired of having a light weapon outclassing my HMG in cqc
Look, I hate to be a That Guy, but are you serious? I used to use the scram quite a lot before the CR came out and I'd struggle to topple a heavy before my gun melted the hand off of my arm a fps that was before the patch fixed HMG's and turned heavies into CQC powerhouses. Charged or not, a scram can't blitz a heavy from within 20m, it has to cool down before it can finish him off. And at that range, a heavy will obliterate you.
Now, the CR on the other hand comes close, providing you have a swift trigger finger. The secret is in the armour penetration bonus that the scram simply doesn't have.
Anyway, I prefer to have my weapons fixed rather than nerfed into uselessness, but well see. I think the scram is in a decent place, and other lights need to be pulled up to scratch.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.01.27 14:31:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:xSir Campsalotx wrote:Cannot wait for that scrambler nerf tired of having a light weapon outclassing my HMG in cqc Look, I hate to be a That Guy, but are you serious? I used to use the scram quite a lot before the CR came out and I'd struggle to topple a heavy before my gun melted the hand off of my arm a fps that was before the patch fixed HMG's and turned heavies into CQC powerhouses. Charged or not, a scram can't blitz a heavy from within 20m, it has to cool down before it can finish him off. And at that range, a heavy will obliterate you. Now, the CR on the other hand comes close, providing you have a swift trigger finger. The secret is in the armour penetration bonus that the scram simply doesn't have. Anyway, I prefer to have my weapons fixed rather than nerfed into uselessness, but well see. I think the scram is in a decent place, and other lights need to be pulled up to scratch.
^ This guy gets it
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ugg reset
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
462
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Posted - 2014.01.27 16:06:00 -
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There was a fix for this. got to your battle finder, hit square, select ambush and hit x. that should fix it.
Thr33 is the magic number.
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Seigfried Warheit
Caught Me With My Pants Down
171
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Posted - 2014.01.27 20:19:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:xSir Campsalotx wrote:Cannot wait for that scrambler nerf tired of having a light weapon outclassing my HMG in cqc Look, I hate to be a That Guy, but are you serious? I used to use the scram quite a lot before the CR came out and I'd struggle to topple a heavy before my gun melted the hand off of my arm a fps that was before the patch fixed HMG's and turned heavies into CQC powerhouses. Charged or not, a scram can't blitz a heavy from within 20m, it has to cool down before it can finish him off. And at that range, a heavy will obliterate you. Now, the CR on the other hand comes close, providing you have a swift trigger finger. The secret is in the armour penetration bonus that the scram simply doesn't have. Anyway, I prefer to have my weapons fixed rather than nerfed into uselessness, but well see. I think the scram is in a decent place, and other lights need to be pulled up to scratch.
I think the scram rifle is fine for the most part it just really needs a slight heat build up as you charge it...and maybe a small pause after the charged shot like the basic scram rifle has but for some reason adv and proto dont have |
Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.01.27 20:31:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:All rifles will eventually get nerfed, they're the reason behind TTK being so low.
Well, they'll get nerfed as soon as new OP rifles are in the pipe and the Aurum draw of the current OP rifles wanes.
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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United The CORVOS
18
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Posted - 2014.01.27 20:36:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The nerf will be so hard that when you equip your scram it will simply melt in your hands and strip all the gold op plating from your armour.
In all seriousness though, I'm not entirely sure. If the nerf is based off of the communities feedback/incessant whining, then expect your hip fire accuracy to be reduced; the current popular opinion is that it's too good in close quarters combat considering how strong it is at all other ranges.
I haven't heard anything official from the Devs however, and I do like to keep an eye on the forums.
Yeah like the cc is not as bad... Aside from the rail at close range all weapons seems rather equal in strength... |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.27 21:11:00 -
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I like how anyone mentioning "all the other weapons" talks about the 4 racial rifles only. |
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