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William HBonney Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 370	Posted - 2014.01.26 02:25:00 - [1] - Quote Why is the speed while backing up the same as moving forward? I have kited so many heavies and knife/shotgun weilding scouts because when I backpeddle I put significant space between us, while I am able to shoot them. Perhaps a 10-20% decrease in speed while backpeddling would help. Thoughts?
Musta Tornius Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 1011	Posted - 2014.01.26 02:39:00 - [2] - Quote I concur. I wonder why it is set the same as frontal movement. In the SDE it's just a simple 1.x modifier that they could change for any suit. DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1132	Posted - 2014.01.26 02:48:00 - [3] - Quote Musta Tornius wrote: I concur. I wonder why it is set the same as frontal movement. In the SDE it's just a simple 1.x modifier that they could change for any suit. What is this "SDE" you speak of? I'm fairly certain Dust 514 uses Unreal Engine 3. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
OverIord Ulath Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2014.01.26 03:20:00 - [4] - Quote Agreed. This is one of the things that hinders scouts and all other CQC weapon users. Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. If you are gonna run from a Nova Knife scout, you should have to about-face and RUN.
Jackof All-Trades The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 381	Posted - 2014.01.26 05:55:00 - [5] - Quote A surprisingly simple fix to a remarkably frustrating problem. All likes to you +1 "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6581	Posted - 2014.01.26 08:21:00 - [6] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Musta Tornius wrote: I concur. I wonder why it is set the same as frontal movement. In the SDE it's just a simple 1.x modifier that they could change for any suit. What is this "SDE" you speak of? I'm fairly certain Dust 514 uses Unreal Engine 3. It's called Static Data Export that CCP uses to show the data that is directly tied to the game. Think of it as a snapshot of the actual data. It even gives data points on things that you don't see in the game such as actual damage bonus to shield and armor, stamina drain between normal sprinting and jumping while sprinting. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1142	Posted - 2014.01.26 08:45:00 - [7] - Quote OverIord Ulath wrote: Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. There's only a 10% speed penalty for walking sideways, but you want up to a 30% penalty for walking backwards? How is that reasonable? The backwards walking penalty should not be higher than the sideways walking penalty. Human physiology doesn't work like that, nor is walking backwards as pressing an issue as strafing. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6584	Posted - 2014.01.26 09:44:00 - [8] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. There's only a 10% speed penalty for walking sideways, but you want up to a 30% penalty for walking backwards? How is that reasonable? The backwards walking penalty should not be higher than the sideways walking penalty. Human physiology doesn't work like that, nor is walking backwards as pressing an issue as strafing. I agree that the backpedal speed should be equal to the strafing speed. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Omareth Nasadra The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 268	Posted - 2014.01.26 09:51:00 - [9] - Quote good thread, +1 good sir Minmatar, In rust we trust!!! Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 996	Posted - 2014.01.26 15:17:00 - [10] - Quote Supported. Though backpedal speed could be the same as strafing, at least for the beginning. FEEDBACK: Analysis on 1.7 tank functionality
Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Legacy Rising 22	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:05:00 - [11] - Quote OverIord Ulath wrote: Agreed. This is one of the things that hinders scouts and all other CQC weapon users. Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. If you are gonna run from a Nova Knife scout, you should have to about-face and RUN. Nah, I already can't sprint backwards. That covers it.
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 457	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:46:00 - [12] - Quote Ahhhh back peddlers.... the bane of my knife fits and the reason why I have to raptor jump on your face and stab your eyes Would be a caveman but whisky and jolly forbidding me to get it changed :_; British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
KANE SHIELDGARD Banshee Tactical 0	Posted - 2014.01.26 18:02:00 - [13] - Quote It's already reduced. Stand complwtely still then go straight back. you'll see what i mean. If your moving forward then suddenly jerk back you will move the same speed. which is good. If you start to go backwards from a motionless position you will move slow.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 228	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:30:00 - [14] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. There's only a 10% speed penalty for walking sideways, but you want up to a 30% penalty for walking backwards? How is that reasonable? The backwards walking penalty should not be higher than the sideways walking penalty. Human physiology doesn't work like that, nor is walking backwards as pressing an issue as strafing. That is 100% grade A festering bull**** that you pulled out of your ass. Go watch a ballet show and realize how wrong you are. edit: If ballet is too girly for you watch the defensive players in a football/basketball game. Before someone chimes in "but they're athletes", soldiers are athletes too.
William HBonney Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 379	Posted - 2014.01.27 03:42:00 - [15] - Quote If we want to be realistic, walking backwards is a real pain. Moving side to side still allows for peripheral vision, while moving backwards does not allow for any vision aid, unless you turn your head, in which case you cannot shoot the person coming at you. So, in order to find that median between fun and real, I think a 10%-20% loss of speed while backpeddling is a good thing. I know people who love to kite will hate this idea, but far too often it hinders gameplay and gives advantages to long range weapons, when they already have plenty.
William HBonney Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 379	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:42:00 - [16] - Quote I think this may be important.
Squagga The State Protectorate 79	Posted - 2014.01.27 18:43:00 - [17] - Quote I don't wanna agree to it but I agree to it Reloading, the silent killer.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8654	Posted - 2014.01.27 18:46:00 - [18] - Quote +1 Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Artificer Ghost Learning Coalition College 1126	Posted - 2014.01.27 18:59:00 - [19] - Quote +1 because I'm going to be a 1.8 Knifer. :D ~Art, CEO and DoE at Learning Coalition College, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition Maken Tosch = 1000th Like!
Doshneil Antaro Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 185	Posted - 2014.01.27 21:51:00 - [20] - Quote CCP must have thought about this for some time. The proof is in the warbarge. Backpetaling is slow as hell, but forward and strafing is quick. Movement speed on the barge is also dictated by speed of favorited suit, even takes kincats into consideration.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1162	Posted - 2014.01.27 23:19:00 - [21] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. There's only a 10% speed penalty for walking sideways, but you want up to a 30% penalty for walking backwards? How is that reasonable? The backwards walking penalty should not be higher than the sideways walking penalty. Human physiology doesn't work like that, nor is walking backwards as pressing an issue as strafing. That is 100% grade A festering bull**** that you pulled out of your ass. Go watch a ballet show and realize how wrong you are. edit: If ballet is too girly for you watch the defensive players in a football/basketball game. Before someone chimes in "but they're athletes", soldiers are athletes too. Except, the reason people don't walk backwards is because it disorients them, not because it's physiologically difficult. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 242	Posted - 2014.01.27 23:29:00 - [22] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. There's only a 10% speed penalty for walking sideways, but you want up to a 30% penalty for walking backwards? How is that reasonable? The backwards walking penalty should not be higher than the sideways walking penalty. Human physiology doesn't work like that, nor is walking backwards as pressing an issue as strafing. That is 100% grade A festering bull**** that you pulled out of your ass. Go watch a ballet show and realize how wrong you are. edit: If ballet is too girly for you watch the defensive players in a football/basketball game. Before someone chimes in "but they're athletes", soldiers are athletes too. Except, the reason people don't walk backwards is because it disorients them, not because it's physiologically difficult. Lateral is movement is nowhere near as disorienting as backwards movement, so why should the lateral movement penalty be higher or equal to backwards movement?
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 845	Posted - 2014.01.27 23:50:00 - [23] - Quote also massively reduce sideways and backwards jumping distance by 50-90% https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1163	Posted - 2014.01.28 00:10:00 - [24] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. There's only a 10% speed penalty for walking sideways, but you want up to a 30% penalty for walking backwards? How is that reasonable? The backwards walking penalty should not be higher than the sideways walking penalty. Human physiology doesn't work like that, nor is walking backwards as pressing an issue as strafing. That is 100% grade A festering bull**** that you pulled out of your ass. Go watch a ballet show and realize how wrong you are. edit: If ballet is too girly for you watch the defensive players in a football/basketball game. Before someone chimes in "but they're athletes", soldiers are athletes too. Except, the reason people don't walk backwards is because it disorients them, not because it's physiologically difficult. Lateral is movement is nowhere near as disorienting as backwards movement, so why should the lateral movement penalty be higher or equal to backwards movement? You can walk backwards almost as quickly as you can walk backwards. The human body was made primarily to move forward, and walking backwards uses the same muscles in a similar way. Walking sideways does not. Not to mention walking backwards already has a penalty: it's disorienting as is. Please explain to me why walking sideways should be 28.5% faster than walking backwards, when walking forwards is only 11% faster than walking backwards. Go ahead, I'm listening. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
Andrew Ka Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 38	Posted - 2014.01.28 00:39:00 - [25] - Quote I came here to say the same thing. Its been my biggest frustration. Assaults moving backwards, spraying bullets, able to keep enough of a distance to stop me from knifing them and to land the strays that kill me.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 244	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:11:00 - [26] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: You can walk backwards almost as quickly as you can walk backwards. The human body was made primarily to move forward, and walking backwards uses the same muscles in a similar way. Walking sideways does not. Not to mention walking backwards already has a penalty: it's disorienting as is. Please explain to me why walking sideways should be 28.5% faster than walking backwards, when walking forwards is only 11% faster than walking backwards. Go ahead, I'm listening. Because the limiting factors are different for each direction. You do not use the same exact muscles, nor in the same order to move in any direction. There are common muscles/groups common to each form of locomotion but they are not doing the same amount of work nor appear in the same sequence to say 'uses the same muscles in similar way' is just wrong. Structure: Your legs and feet are designed to direct as much of the force generated by your muscles completely downwards synchronously when moving forward. When walking backwards your heel has a tendency to move downward and planting itself drastically reducing the downwards force. Also, because of the way you feet are design can't balance yourself as well. On that alone you will never be able to move as fast as you backwards as you do forwards, even if you were able to rotate your head 180 degrees. Those factors don't have much bearing on moving sideways, which again uses different muscles, but that only limits how much force is available to be applied. The only limiting factor here is stride.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1164	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:34:00 - [27] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: You can walk backwards almost as quickly as you can walk backwards. The human body was made primarily to move forward, and walking backwards uses the same muscles in a similar way. Walking sideways does not. Not to mention walking backwards already has a penalty: it's disorienting as is. Please explain to me why walking sideways should be 28.5% faster than walking backwards, when walking forwards is only 11% faster than walking backwards. Go ahead, I'm listening. Because the limiting factors are different for each direction. You do not use the same exact muscles, nor in the same order to move in any direction. There are common muscles/groups common to each form of locomotion but they are not doing the same amount of work nor appear in the same sequence to say 'uses the same muscles in similar way' is just wrong. Structure: Your legs and feet are designed to direct as much of the force generated by your muscles completely downwards synchronously when moving forward. When walking backwards your heel has a tendency to move downward and planting itself drastically reducing the downwards force. Also, because of the way you feet are design can't balance yourself as well. On that alone you will never be able to move as fast as you backwards as you do forwards, even if you were able to rotate your head 180 degrees. Those factors don't have much bearing on moving sideways, which again uses different muscles, but that only limits how much force is available to be applied. The only limiting factor here is stride. A 30% reduction is still far too drastic. I'm not saying walking backwards should be as fast as it is, but it shouldn't be anywhere near that slow. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 404	Posted - 2014.01.28 03:10:00 - [28] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. There's only a 10% speed penalty for walking sideways, but you want up to a 30% penalty for walking backwards? How is that reasonable? The backwards walking penalty should not be higher than the sideways walking penalty. Human physiology doesn't work like that, nor is walking backwards as pressing an issue as strafing. That is 100% grade A festering bull**** that you pulled out of your ass. Go watch a ballet show and realize how wrong you are. edit: If ballet is too girly for you watch the defensive players in a football/basketball game. Before someone chimes in "but they're athletes", soldiers are athletes too. i was about to chime in about how i can jog backwards at near same speed as forward, as i often do in rotc to ecourage my other classmates during p.t. but i think you covered it Proud Christian one of the most essential parts of eve is left out of dust: freedom, exploration, open-world gameplay.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 404	Posted - 2014.01.28 03:13:00 - [29] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. There's only a 10% speed penalty for walking sideways, but you want up to a 30% penalty for walking backwards? How is that reasonable? The backwards walking penalty should not be higher than the sideways walking penalty. Human physiology doesn't work like that, nor is walking backwards as pressing an issue as strafing. That is 100% grade A festering bull**** that you pulled out of your ass. Go watch a ballet show and realize how wrong you are. edit: If ballet is too girly for you watch the defensive players in a football/basketball game. Before someone chimes in "but they're athletes", soldiers are athletes too. Except, the reason people don't walk backwards is because it disorients them, not because it's physiologically difficult. Lateral is movement is nowhere near as disorienting as backwards movement, so why should the lateral movement penalty be higher or equal to backwards movement? backwards movement is only dissorienting because you cant see where youre going , you can still move much faster backwards than sideways, due to the fact our legs are meant for forward backwards motions Proud Christian one of the most essential parts of eve is left out of dust: freedom, exploration, open-world gameplay.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 462	Posted - 2014.01.28 03:22:00 - [30] - Quote If you want realism, go join the Army. This is just another thread filled with people who don't want to hit moving targets. Boo Hoo.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 344	Posted - 2014.01.28 03:40:00 - [31] - Quote I fully support the backpedal speed reduction. Makes using the SG really frustrating at times. Please fix the mic bubble bug...
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 701	Posted - 2014.01.28 04:28:00 - [32] - Quote It's funny how in the warbarge, walking backwards makes you move at the speed of a moving tectonic plate, yet in a match, you move the same.
William HBonney Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 387	Posted - 2014.01.31 14:44:00 - [33] - Quote it is funny, but it hurts the game.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1058	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:38:00 - [34] - Quote free bumpity bump MAG ~ Raven
SGTFunyoun THEFIRST Arachnea Phoenix Battalion 19	Posted - 2014.02.01 04:14:00 - [35] - Quote It is set this way, because any athlete or Soldier who has done a backwards run, can tell you that the human body can run backwards just as fast as it can forwards... ... you're just less stable is all. So no.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 366	Posted - 2014.02.01 04:37:00 - [36] - Quote this thread is full of some of the most buIlshit I've ever heard from some people on these forumsGÇªplay a sport or something, some of your guys comments about movement are absurd Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Help Shields
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8968	Posted - 2014.02.09 03:41:00 - [37] - Quote Do it Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9441	Posted - 2014.02.20 07:16:00 - [38] - Quote pew Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 339	Posted - 2014.02.20 07:44:00 - [39] - Quote I hate the real live examples but I must make one now How Mutch faster do you run forward then backwards? Yeah I know that you can sprint forward but not backwards but you can't aim and sprint in dust but in RL you can. Lol hate RL examples in games =ƒÿ¥ Any way +1 on this War never changes
SGTFunyoun THEFIRST Arachnea Phoenix Battalion 36	Posted - 2014.02.22 07:56:00 - [40] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: I hate the real live examples but I must make one now How Mutch faster do you run forward then backwards? Yeah I know that you can sprint forward but not backwards but you can't aim and sprint in dust but in RL you can. Lol hate RL examples in games =ƒÿ¥ Any way +1 on this Apparently none of you have ever actually gotten up to a good backwards run. NO, you cannot run at a SPRINT speed backwards in RL, but you also can't run at a FORWARD sprint speed carrying 90 pounds worth of kit either. I say leave it the same either way, because it isn't really doing anything either way. Also, when you shoot in RL and in game... you slow down to aim better... so your argument there is a tad invalid.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 10357	Posted - 2014.04.09 00:57:00 - [41] - Quote Still want Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
echo47 Minmatar Republic 262	Posted - 2014.04.09 01:52:00 - [42] - Quote How many in this post that support reduced speed when back pedalling are scouts? I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2434	Posted - 2014.04.09 02:34:00 - [43] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. There's only a 10% speed penalty for walking sideways, but you want up to a 30% penalty for walking backwards? How is that reasonable? The backwards walking penalty should not be higher than the sideways walking penalty. Human physiology doesn't work like that, nor is walking backwards as pressing an issue as strafing. Well if we are to use anatomy with a mix of psychology you cannot run as fast backwards as you can run forward since your brain is saying hey your going to get us killed!! Not only that but you cannot adjust your direction so as you move backwards you are also NNOT MOVING straight. As for strafing you can move side to side all you want but to change directions you have to come to a complete stop this is just because you have to change the direction of all that energy. For the Federation!
William HBonney Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 407	Posted - 2014.04.09 03:36:00 - [44] - Quote Necromancer!! But still CQC needs work in general the speed and tunnel vision is crazy
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2238	Posted - 2014.04.09 05:01:00 - [45] - Quote First and foremost ccp doesn't need to nerf movement we have gone full circle in 2 years. Started with good movement to **** and back to good again. There is absolutely no reason for back peddle to change. The first week in 1.8 my scout toon with shotgun had a 10kdr for the week just running at people with a shotgun. If you need this nerf to get kills you are a trashy scout in the first place. I play a scout 95% of the time and have no issue here. Get Good. Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
Meee One Hello Kitty Commandos 756	Posted - 2014.04.09 05:06:00 - [46] - Quote William HBonney wrote: Why is the speed while backing up the same as moving forward? I have kited so many heavies and knife/shotgun weilding scouts because when I backpeddle I put significant space between us, while I am able to shoot them. Perhaps a 10-20% decrease in speed while backpeddling would help. Thoughts? You're lying. You're a scout that's mad you can't knife people backpeddaling. John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 1054	Posted - 2014.04.09 06:59:00 - [47] - Quote We need this change. Although we're (somewhat) rid of this frustration because it's blanketed by quite a few others(which isn't a bad thing)this is still immersion breaking, and balance breaking. Although your % may be harsh. Strafe is currently 95%, so backpedal should start at 95%, then if it's still a problem go to 90%. Sometimes ya just feel like surfin
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 1054	Posted - 2014.04.09 07:02:00 - [48] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. There's only a 10% speed penalty for walking sideways, but you want up to a 30% penalty for walking backwards? How is that reasonable? The backwards walking penalty should not be higher than the sideways walking penalty. Human physiology doesn't work like that, nor is walking backwards as pressing an issue as strafing. Well if we are to use anatomy with a mix of psychology you cannot run as fast backwards as you can run forward since your brain is saying hey your going to get us killed!! Not only that but you cannot adjust your direction so as you move backwards you are also NNOT MOVING straight. As for strafing you can move side to side all you want but to change directions you have to come to a complete stop this is just because you have to change the direction of all that energy. Waframe does this well. Albeit it's a 3rd person shooter, you don't dance your laughing ass through bullets by breaking the server. You run in a circle as the enemy uses travel time weaponry :P Sometimes ya just feel like surfin
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 99	Posted - 2014.04.09 07:52:00 - [49] - Quote OverIord Ulath wrote: Agreed. This is one of the things that hinders scouts and all other CQC weapon users. Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. If you are gonna run from a Nova Knife scout, you should have to about-face and RUN. I will accept the penalty for speed if you guys take a jumping penalty. No one should be able to jump like the scouts do unless they are carrying only nova knives. Making Friends And Enemies Everyday
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 768	Posted - 2014.04.09 14:55:00 - [50] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Agreed. This is one of the things that hinders scouts and all other CQC weapon users. Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. If you are gonna run from a Nova Knife scout, you should have to about-face and RUN. I will accept the penalty for speed if you guys take a jumping penalty. No one should be able to jump like the scouts do unless they are carrying only nova knives. This is not a negotiation. You should not be able to back peddle so quick. Besides, how else are we supposed to get over the **** terrain! ...
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 154	Posted - 2014.04.09 15:31:00 - [51] - Quote Please, I'll even give up the cloak for this feature. I have posted this before but the only three things the scouts needed was 1. Fix stun lock on hit 2. Make backpedal slower 3. Fix shotgun hit detection No cloak was needed IMO.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 154	Posted - 2014.04.09 15:33:00 - [52] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: OverIord Ulath wrote: Agreed. This is one of the things that hinders scouts and all other CQC weapon users. Should be at least a 20-30% speed penalty for backpedaling. If you are gonna run from a Nova Knife scout, you should have to about-face and RUN. I will accept the penalty for speed if you guys take a jumping penalty. No one should be able to jump like the scouts do unless they are carrying only nova knives. I think armor plates should have the same penalty for jumping AND strafing as movement. But since I wear none I don't think my jumping should be modified, I am extremely easy to kill because I sacrifice hitpoints for speed.
X7 lion SWAMPERIUM 151	Posted - 2014.04.09 16:06:00 - [53] - Quote i have personaly brought this up before same with people before me, at the time i posted lets just say the vocally ignorant where about at the time. +1 Immortality will not protect you from me. I am death incarnate, you will die.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1015	Posted - 2014.04.09 21:46:00 - [54] - Quote I find this disproportionately affects NKers, as shotguners can still be effecitve 10m out, while we become immediately irrelevant at 3 m. At one point, I kept slashing someone who looked to be immediately in front of me while he backpedaled and never scored a hit. By all rights, I should have been able to get him before he got me. Looking for the scout hangout?

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