Mike Tyson wouldn't be put up against people brand new to boxing in the first place

Point is moronic

Rainbow effect are a corp of under 20, so dont blame them
Theres always going to be a huge gap between new people and vets because of SP and ISK
This game is not meant to be fair - get that in your ******* head, this is new eden, if something is fair you arnt doing it right
This game is actually continually growing so the whole THIS GAME IS DYING argument no longer works
This game is always going to be like eve, a small player base that are dedicated, you are making yourself pretty obvious that you dont understand the game

I think you got one of the points being made quite well ;)

Tiericide pls.

2 things need to happen.


1. Corp battles and Squad matches (1 squad vs another)

2. Academy needs to be available AFTER a new player is turned loose on pubs. That was if things are too rough they can go back.

Make sure Academy have tiers 1m SP group >>> 2M >>> kick out at 3m.

That's how I look at it anyway.

The real problem is the match making, not the proto stomping. Why would two full squads of proto players be put on one team while the other team gets a half full squad and a bunch of players who aren't in a squad? It doesn't make any sense, especially when they're all in the same game. Why didn't the two proto squads be put on opposite sides and the holes filled in by the random non squad players? It comes down to an utter lack of match making by CCP, not a lack of players, or a proto stomp issue. I could understand this if it was FW because players can pick which side they're on, but for pub matches this should never happen.

Ex;

Squad 1 - Proto
Squad 2 - Proto
Squad 3 - Casuals
Squad 4 - Casuals
No Squad - Mixture

Squad 1 & Squad 3 put on one team. (12 players)
Squad 2 & Squad 4 put on opposite team. (12 players)
Other 4 slots on each team would be filled by the numerous no squad players queuing for the same game mode.

Obviously this is a utopian example. Things wouldn't ALWAYS work out this way. But if those were the given numbers of squads queuing at the same time, thats how they should be placed. Not with both proto squads on one side and the two casual squads on the other side. I very rarely see matches this way, which I think is the real problem.

Its a simple concept, I'm sure its more difficult to implement than we all assume, but isn't that why these people are game developers? They should be capable of figuring out a way to gauge certain squads and players queuing for a match and putting them in battles based on some type of criteria. I'd be willing to wait 1-2 minutes to get into a fair, good, battle than to be thrown against new players 9/10 matches.

I don't want to be accused of "ruining the game" for players because I enjoy to run proto in pub matches sometimes. I'd rather be placed against other squads in proto capable of putting up a good fight. Even if I was to switch to basic/advanced gear against those newberry/casual squads they'd still be hurting just as bad as if I was in proto. Never the less there will always be someone on either team QQ'ing even if theres only one player in proto on the opposite side who is murdering their whole team.

I'd also like to say if you're not capable of giving a proto player at least a run for his money in your advanced gear then you have a serious problem. Either your FPS skills aren't up to par or you're fitting your suits wrong. If either one of those are the case then perhaps you shouldn't be teaching new players how to play the game. I don't mean this as a troll but as a truthful statement. If you're going to teach newberries how to play you should have the proper skills yourself already.

I've said it more than likely a hundred or more times on these forums. Matches should be chosen by gear meta levels.

Ex;

Militia & Basic Gear - Only Militia and Basic suits can be worn, with only Militia and Basic modules/weapons/equipment.
Advanced Gear - Militia, Basic and Advanced suits can be worn, with only Militia, Basic, and Advanced modules/weapons/equipment.
Proto Gear - Militia, Basic, Advanced and Proto suits can be worn, with Militia, Basic, Advanced and Proto modules/weapons/equipment. (basically what we have now)

Each game mode would have an option of which to pick, similar to the way we pick game modes now. This would be a more simple way of splitting the players than something based on SP. Your point of an 8 million SP character proto stomping is valid, as is a 20 million SP player might only be running basic or advanced gear. Splitting players based on SP alone would be a poor way to create balanced match making.

One could argue there isn't a large enough player base to fill all three tiers of battles for the three game modes, but it is something that would help the game tremendously. If it didn't work out, it could always be removed.

I don't get much enjoyment where in a game after 3 minutes, its all redline snipers and no troops on the ground, its even so bad that i only get enjoyment out of the game when i am faced against 2 stacked teams solo, well a good team works aswell.

I really want this game to succeed, on PC i am sick & tired of playing against aimbots, wallhacks, noclip etc hackers, but here i don't take enjoyment out of stomping the players into the ground, but what am i to do? Play in Starter fits just to make other people that i don't know feel good about themselves ? Last time i checked, it is still an FPS game.

But ok ive done that on my alt char Cue Ckit and even with 600k sp a starter fit i still go 37/xx and while i am not overly attached to my KDR as i dont use tactics i still die quite allot, but going up against entire squads in a starter fit, or a coordinated squad is still suicide and i still like my status as a wreckingball.

Back when i didnt have a protosuit, i was going up against guys like Askull Legend and his entire team, i like challenges, sadly most people want their kills to be spoon fed, automatic & easy and everyone else should just be put on equal level so they can feel better about themselves.