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Sick Metagamer Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:02:00 - [31] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Sick Metagamer wrote: AR users whining again, they want to be the sole weapon in matches. Well I have been counting kills in the kill feed and of rifles the AR STILL is the one with the most kills. Also if you don't like the combat rifle use the burst AR, has a better DPS than the combat rifle does, by far too. **** off. I'm looking for balance. We don't have that. And last time I checked the Burst AR was the crappiest weapon in thew game. Do you even use it? Have you used it? I try sticking to ARs and their variants. They're my bread and butter but that's bullshit. I never said I didn't like the Combat Rifle. I don't like that as far as the rifles go my AR doesn't do much compared to it. The AR is CQC focused for it's basic variation but it doesn't dominate, and yes from EVE lore it's supposed to dominate in that area. I have used the burst rifle, and it is better at medium range than the combat rifle. Quick and easy kills. The worst AR is the breach followed by the TAC. AR users want EVERY other rifle besides the AR nerfed, that is a joke! Maybe the CQC ability of the rail rifle needs to be nerfed a bit. But whining over it's DPS, come on! Same with the combat rifle! It's assault variant has LESS DPS than the AR and AR users act like it is some god weapon. Oh and AR users have been screaming for a nerf of the scrambler rifle for a long time. Now that two new rifles that are effective have been added, your focus is on them instead. It is a joke if the solution is nerfing everything because AR users want it. Give the regular AR a DPS boost so it has more DPS than any other assault variant and there is the main fix for the AR. Give the TAC more range and with the breach who cares? That's how you FIX AR without screwing every other gun up .
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 58	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:10:00 - [32] - Quote TTK needs to be longer with all the weapons. RR dps is just sick, AR's have been nerfed to much already, and SCR charge shot should be mean but not have "finish him" power?! Let try making ground combat an actual lasting firefight of advantages and disadvantages. Not just the "I win button" complex?! Kills with AR's should take two clips as it usually does, or three if your a terrible shot. ScR should do the same, and should take two to three charge shots at long range not one. RR just needs a dmg nerf! To about 39 to 43 not 55 to 62! Everything else about it is honestly ok. If the dmg stay high then make it suffer in close like the laser rifle since it's original intention was long range engagement. LR needs, not a buff, but a nudge if you will. Heat build up is fine, but against the RR the LR gets outclassed unless your really spec'd into it. Even then a lvl1 RR can subdue a lvl 5 LR. Not cool. The CR should honestly be a part of the submachine gun class, but that's just my opinion. It's RoF is the only thing that really makes it dangerous. Drop it a tad and you've just balanced it. "Anybody order chaos?"
Sick Metagamer Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:21:00 - [33] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Kills with AR's should take two clips as it usually does, or three if your a terrible shot. What AR are you using that it takes two clips to kill someone? I kill heavies in much less than a clip with an AR...
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 759	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:54:00 - [34] - Quote Sick Metagamer wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Sick Metagamer wrote: AR users whining again, they want to be the sole weapon in matches. Well I have been counting kills in the kill feed and of rifles the AR STILL is the one with the most kills. Also if you don't like the combat rifle use the burst AR, has a better DPS than the combat rifle does, by far too. **** off. I'm looking for balance. We don't have that. And last time I checked the Burst AR was the crappiest weapon in thew game. Do you even use it? Have you used it? I try sticking to ARs and their variants. They're my bread and butter but that's bullshit. I never said I didn't like the Combat Rifle. I don't like that as far as the rifles go my AR doesn't do much compared to it. The AR is CQC focused for it's basic variation but it doesn't dominate, and yes from EVE lore it's supposed to dominate in that area. I have used the burst rifle, and it is better at medium range than the combat rifle. Quick and easy kills. The worst AR is the breach followed by the TAC. AR users want EVERY other rifle besides the AR nerfed, that is a joke! Maybe the CQC ability of the rail rifle needs to be nerfed a bit. But whining over it's DPS, come on! Same with the combat rifle! It's assault variant has LESS DPS than the AR and AR users act like it is some god weapon. Oh and AR users have been screaming for a nerf of the scrambler rifle for a long time. Now that two new rifles that are effective have been added, your focus is on them instead. It is a joke if the solution is nerfing everything because AR users want it. Give the regular AR a DPS boost so it has more DPS than any other assault variant and there is the main fix for the AR. Give the TAC more range and with the breach who cares? That's how you FIX AR without screwing every other gun up . I want all 4 rifles to be nerfed
Jamie Insano FACTION WARFARE ARMY 1	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:57:00 - [35] - Quote Scrambler rifles need a damage reduction, Rail rifles need damage reduction -and- range reduction. Combat Rifles need a damage buff, range buff, and Sniper rifles need to be dropped completely. The best proto sniper rifle will not hit past 600m, so what's the point anyway? Plus you can't zoom to the range of the rifle, which is BEYOND STUPID. I got a 579m head shot kill today, and my recticle dot completely covered the guy I shot.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 984	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:57:00 - [36] - Quote Sick Metagamer wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Sick Metagamer wrote: AR users whining again, they want to be the sole weapon in matches. Well I have been counting kills in the kill feed and of rifles the AR STILL is the one with the most kills. Also if you don't like the combat rifle use the burst AR, has a better DPS than the combat rifle does, by far too. **** off. I'm looking for balance. We don't have that. And last time I checked the Burst AR was the crappiest weapon in thew game. Do you even use it? Have you used it? I try sticking to ARs and their variants. They're my bread and butter but that's bullshit. I never said I didn't like the Combat Rifle. I don't like that as far as the rifles go my AR doesn't do much compared to it. The AR is CQC focused for it's basic variation but it doesn't dominate, and yes from EVE lore it's supposed to dominate in that area. I have used the burst rifle, and it is better at medium range than the combat rifle. Quick and easy kills. The worst AR is the breach followed by the TAC. AR users want EVERY other rifle besides the AR nerfed, that is a joke! Maybe the CQC ability of the rail rifle needs to be nerfed a bit. But whining over it's DPS, come on! Same with the combat rifle! It's assault variant has LESS DPS than the AR and AR users act like it is some god weapon. Oh and AR users have been screaming for a nerf of the scrambler rifle for a long time. Now that two new rifles that are effective have been added, your focus is on them instead. It is a joke if the solution is nerfing everything because AR users want it. Give the regular AR a DPS boost so it has more DPS than any other assault variant and there is the main fix for the AR. Give the TAC more range and with the breach who cares? That's how you FIX AR without screwing every other gun up . ._. Burst Rifle sucks. I'd much rather use a Tac or a Breach which are actually still viable, imo. Breach needs CQC or accurate hits while the Tac allows for fast taps on an enemy from a distance. Shrugs Maybe the Burst is better than I'm perceiving it. Personally still wouldn't touch it with a pole. ._. And what? The general consensus(outside of people who are bitter) is that the RR deserves a nerf to CQC capabilities. It should be crap in close quarters but awesome at a range. The CR needs something I don't know what. If it doesn't need a nerf, the AR needs a buff. It's still better in CQC than the AR. The assault variant of the CR is good mostly because of the RoF. It's like melting armor. That's how I would imagine the AR would work, although a bit slower due to the range differences and stuff. And wtf has been screaming about a nerf for the ScR? Stop it sir. That's not what my thread is about. I'm looking for balance. You're QQing about what others are QQing about. Get over yourself. I don't care if the AR is buffed or the others are nerfed(in their own way) to make them all balance. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 984	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:00:00 - [37] - Quote Jamie Insano wrote: Scrambler rifles need a damage reduction, Rail rifles need damage reduction -and- range reduction. Combat Rifles need a damage buff, range buff, and Sniper rifles need to be dropped completely. The best proto sniper rifle will not hit past 600m, so what's the point anyway? Plus you can't zoom to the range of the rifle, which is BEYOND STUPID. I got a 579m head shot kill today, and my recticle dot completely covered the guy I shot. .______. Do you primarily use the Combat Rifle? "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1400	Posted - 2014.01.31 02:44:00 - [38] - Quote CR is garbage. I think it got ninja nerfed like tons of other minmatar weapons. In PC the only ARs people use are Scr primarily, then in second place comes the GAR then RR. no one uses CR in PC Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1400	Posted - 2014.01.31 02:47:00 - [39] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Sick Metagamer wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Sick Metagamer wrote: AR users whining again, they want to be the sole weapon in matches. Well I have been counting kills in the kill feed and of rifles the AR STILL is the one with the most kills. Also if you don't like the combat rifle use the burst AR, has a better DPS than the combat rifle does, by far too. **** off. I'm looking for balance. We don't have that. And last time I checked the Burst AR was the crappiest weapon in thew game. Do you even use it? Have you used it? I try sticking to ARs and their variants. They're my bread and butter but that's bullshit. I never said I didn't like the Combat Rifle. I don't like that as far as the rifles go my AR doesn't do much compared to it. The AR is CQC focused for it's basic variation but it doesn't dominate, and yes from EVE lore it's supposed to dominate in that area. I have used the burst rifle, and it is better at medium range than the combat rifle. Quick and easy kills. The worst AR is the breach followed by the TAC. AR users want EVERY other rifle besides the AR nerfed, that is a joke! Maybe the CQC ability of the rail rifle needs to be nerfed a bit. But whining over it's DPS, come on! Same with the combat rifle! It's assault variant has LESS DPS than the AR and AR users act like it is some god weapon. Oh and AR users have been screaming for a nerf of the scrambler rifle for a long time. Now that two new rifles that are effective have been added, your focus is on them instead. It is a joke if the solution is nerfing everything because AR users want it. Give the regular AR a DPS boost so it has more DPS than any other assault variant and there is the main fix for the AR. Give the TAC more range and with the breach who cares? That's how you FIX AR without screwing every other gun up . ._. Burst Rifle sucks. I'd much rather use a Tac or a Breach which are actually still viable, imo. Breach needs CQC or accurate hits while the Tac allows for fast taps on an enemy from a distance. Shrugs Maybe the Burst is better than I'm perceiving it. Personally still wouldn't touch it with a pole. ._. And what? The general consensus(outside of people who are bitter) is that the RR deserves a nerf to CQC capabilities. It should be crap in close quarters but awesome at a range. The CR needs something I don't know what. If it doesn't need a nerf, the AR needs a buff. It's still better in CQC than the AR. The assault variant of the CR is good mostly because of the RoF. It's like melting armor. That's how I would imagine the AR would work, although a bit slower due to the range differences and stuff. And wtf has been screaming about a nerf for the ScR? Stop it sir. That's not what my thread is about. I'm looking for balance. You're QQing about what others are QQing about. Get over yourself. I don't care if the AR is buffed or the others are nerfed(in their own way) to make them all balance. the CR does not need a nerf. minmatar are about CQC, the CR is supposed to have higher DPS than the GAR. The balance is that the CR is a burst and has massive recoil infact the HIGHEST recoil out of all the assault rifles. The GAR is near perfect accuracy and is full auto. the GAR is fine and the CR is fine... well i actually think it got ninja nerfed so it should just be buffed back to its original values at launch of 1.7 Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1401	Posted - 2014.01.31 02:52:00 - [40] - Quote Sick Metagamer wrote: AR users whining again, they want to be the sole weapon in matches. Well I have been counting kills in the kill feed and of rifles the AR STILL is the one with the most kills. Also if you don't like the combat rifle use the burst AR, has a better DPS than the combat rifle does, by far too. yep. every minmatar weapon in the game so far has gotten a nerf.... the CR came out prenerfed and ppl are still complaining about it. im pretty sure it was ninja nerfed because its not doing the damage it used to when i first started using it... i think the delay between bursts increased. Thats stupid. Its already got the most recoil out of all the ARs, now its got lower dps... Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça

Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1798	Posted - 2014.01.31 02:55:00 - [41] - Quote Jamie Insano wrote: Scrambler rifles need a damage reduction, Rail rifles need damage reduction -and- range reduction. Combat Rifles need a damage buff, range buff, and Sniper rifles need to be dropped completely. The best proto sniper rifle will not hit past 600m, so what's the point anyway? Plus you can't zoom to the range of the rifle, which is BEYOND STUPID. I got a 579m head shot kill today, and my recticle dot completely covered the guy I shot. I don't know whether to +1 your troll post or to nit pick at all the stupidity that is your post. New born sAMARRi
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1014	Posted - 2014.01.31 03:13:00 - [42] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Sick Metagamer wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Sick Metagamer wrote: AR users whining again, they want to be the sole weapon in matches. Well I have been counting kills in the kill feed and of rifles the AR STILL is the one with the most kills. Also if you don't like the combat rifle use the burst AR, has a better DPS than the combat rifle does, by far too. **** off. I'm looking for balance. We don't have that. And last time I checked the Burst AR was the crappiest weapon in thew game. Do you even use it? Have you used it? I try sticking to ARs and their variants. They're my bread and butter but that's bullshit. I never said I didn't like the Combat Rifle. I don't like that as far as the rifles go my AR doesn't do much compared to it. The AR is CQC focused for it's basic variation but it doesn't dominate, and yes from EVE lore it's supposed to dominate in that area. I have used the burst rifle, and it is better at medium range than the combat rifle. Quick and easy kills. The worst AR is the breach followed by the TAC. AR users want EVERY other rifle besides the AR nerfed, that is a joke! Maybe the CQC ability of the rail rifle needs to be nerfed a bit. But whining over it's DPS, come on! Same with the combat rifle! It's assault variant has LESS DPS than the AR and AR users act like it is some god weapon. Oh and AR users have been screaming for a nerf of the scrambler rifle for a long time. Now that two new rifles that are effective have been added, your focus is on them instead. It is a joke if the solution is nerfing everything because AR users want it. Give the regular AR a DPS boost so it has more DPS than any other assault variant and there is the main fix for the AR. Give the TAC more range and with the breach who cares? That's how you FIX AR without screwing every other gun up . ._. Burst Rifle sucks. I'd much rather use a Tac or a Breach which are actually still viable, imo. Breach needs CQC or accurate hits while the Tac allows for fast taps on an enemy from a distance. Shrugs Maybe the Burst is better than I'm perceiving it. Personally still wouldn't touch it with a pole. ._. And what? The general consensus(outside of people who are bitter) is that the RR deserves a nerf to CQC capabilities. It should be crap in close quarters but awesome at a range. The CR needs something I don't know what. If it doesn't need a nerf, the AR needs a buff. It's still better in CQC than the AR. The assault variant of the CR is good mostly because of the RoF. It's like melting armor. That's how I would imagine the AR would work, although a bit slower due to the range differences and stuff. And wtf has been screaming about a nerf for the ScR? Stop it sir. That's not what my thread is about. I'm looking for balance. You're QQing about what others are QQing about. Get over yourself. I don't care if the AR is buffed or the others are nerfed(in their own way) to make them all balance. the CR does not need a nerf. minmatar are about CQC, the CR is supposed to have higher DPS than the GAR. The balance is that the CR is a burst and has massive recoil infact the HIGHEST recoil out of all the assault rifles. The GAR is near perfect accuracy and is full auto. the GAR is fine and the CR is fine... well i actually think it got ninja nerfed so it should just be buffed back to its original values at launch of 1.7 O_o. Last I checked, Gallente are supposed to be the CQC kings not the Minmatar...Says so here and if you look for the blue tag, a dev confirms. Also you can look it up in EVE wiki or EVE Uni's Wiki. You are right about their lack of finesse and accuracy(dat recoil) but Blasters should be better at CQC and IMO it would make sense for the glass tank to be the best in CQC. They should at least be versatile and mobile(which they are) but not CQC-kings. They're glass tanks! A few hits and their pretty done. I'm not saying they should be useless in CQC because that's silly to think with their mobility and junk but they definitely shouldn't be the best at it. Anyways, their "DPS" needs to be better with of course a shorter range. Essentially, the CR and the AR are switched around. The CR should continue to have a HIGH damaging capability with decent range and a slightly longer gap between bursts(I'm saying this for balance wise because each shot would be stronger than it is right now but with a bigger drawback...also to stop turbocontroller stuff)I know although issues with accuracy while the AR should have the best DPS with the shortest range(what the CR has right now). "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4275	Posted - 2014.01.31 04:20:00 - [43] - Quote loool The people in this thread wouldn't know balance if it bit them on both cheeks. I can't take it seriously, times like this I'm glad that they know not to listen to us. Especially that sickguy.


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