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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:36:00 -
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Because I just can't with the AR. When I really begin seeing the differences between the weapons, I feel screwed. I can make it work but when the numbers are LITERALLY against me, there's not that much I can do.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
1004
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:40:00 -
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Saberwing let slip on IRC (I think it was there) that Remnant has slightly nerfed the CR, no idea how yet, though.
DUST514 Weapon Range & Information
Team Fairy DUST
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
839
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:43:00 -
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Plus Remnant confirmed a while ago that various weapons were getting damage reductions (through various means). |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1683
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:43:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Saberwing let slip on IRC (I think it was there) that Remnant has slightly nerfed the CR, no idea how yet, though.
What about the RR :( the CR auto nerfs itself when there is high lag.
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
531
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:43:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Because I just can't with the AR. When I really begin seeing the differences between the weapons, I feel screwed. I can make it work but when the numbers are LITERALLY against me, there's not that much I can do.
Welcome to the world of the HMG heavy...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1085
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:45:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Saberwing let slip on IRC (I think it was there) that Remnant has slightly nerfed the CR, no idea how yet, though.
if that happens then we have another proof how bad the devs are, that they are not testing their own game and how they are catering around bad players.
you want to nerf the CR? well I have bad news for you, the SCR is the weapon of choice if you want the best. I cant remember that the CR is able to one shot stuff with its charged shot and also able to spill out 900 dps and the drawback of the SCR is laughable and easy to manage.
if anything all weapons need a slight nerf but the SCR is actually the strongest one. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
IMMORTAL REGIME
1291
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:46:00 -
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what are you talking about? if anything, ALL of the rifles need a nerf when compared to other weapons. I know a guy named that kewl kid who gets 50+ kills with minimal deaths almost every game with an AR, RR, and ScR. when compared to each other, they are for the most part balanced (give or take) but when compared to every other weapon, they dominate.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1725
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:52:00 -
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Id say an overall reduction to weapon damage would be beneficial to the game, as the general feel is that TTK is a bit low.
I'm interested to see if the Scrambler Rifle will be more reasonable if and once the Amarr Assault bonus is removed.
I think a couple changes need to be made in order to push the various rifles more into their 'doughnut range', this can be done with tracking, fire rate, and a few other options.
Assault Rifle should be renamed to Plasma Rifle to avoid confusion for new players, and it should be more effective at close range and less effective at medium range. I'd suggest more dispersion and a slight reduction to effective range, but an increase in DPS (probably fire rate)
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neausea 1987
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
Legacy Rising
3
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:53:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Saberwing let slip on IRC (I think it was there) that Remnant has slightly nerfed the CR, no idea how yet, though. i feel the same way i used to rock with the full auto but now i raraly use it because it seems like my kill flow with it has decreased somehow.but maybe im paranoid
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
839
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:55:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:Saberwing let slip on IRC (I think it was there) that Remnant has slightly nerfed the CR, no idea how yet, though. if that happens then we have another proof how bad the devs are, that they are not testing their own game and how they are catering around bad players. you want to nerf the CR? well I have bad news for you, the SCR is the weapon of choice if you want the best. I cant remember that the CR is able to one shot stuff with its charged shot and also able to spill out 900 dps and the drawback of the SCR is laughable and easy to manage. if anything all weapons need a slight nerf but the SCR is actually the strongest one.
Yeah, nobody said that the CR was exclusively getting nerfed - quite the opposite infact. |
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
982
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:09:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:what are you talking about? if anything, ALL of the rifles need a nerf when compared to other weapons. I know a guy named that kewl kid who gets 50+ kills with minimal deaths almost every game with an AR, RR, and ScR. when compared to each other, they are for the most part balanced (give or take) but when compared to every other weapon, they dominate.
Fine. Nerf all of the rifles. I just want them to be on the same level with different play styles and advantages. Right now, it's much better to use a CR than a AR EVEN if it's laggy and EVEN everyone's running shields. Same with the Rail Rifle from what I've played and seen.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:11:00 -
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CCP is still tweaking numbers so until a blue posts about it please wait.
The design goals is to increase TTK slightly.
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CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
ACME Holding Conglomerate
601
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:20:00 -
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i have no problem with the galente assault rifle it feels the most balanced out of all of em for me.
its mostly the rail rifle currently. but cr is still bad in the way it can be fired as fast as the current assault variant of the cr.
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
40
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:CCP is still tweaking numbers so until a blue posts about it please wait.
The design goals is to increase TTK slightly.
I just hope they take into consideration that they are making Assaults (sans Minmatar) and Sentinels more tanky and have given Scouts and extra slot allowing them to do the same.
I surely dont want to go from one extreme (though I dont think its that bad if you play correctly) to the next.
I do agree though its better to reign in rifles than try to buff all others but the SMG definitely and the newly strengthened HMG maybe should also get a look.
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CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
ACME Holding Conglomerate
601
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:39:00 -
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std hmg feels fine. i cant speak for a specced into one though.. seeing as to how that one day that heavy melted through my heavy suit in less than .5secs. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1474
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:49:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:std hmg feels fine. i cant speak for a specced into one though.. seeing as to how that one day that heavy melted through my heavy suit in less than .5secs.
HMG is an absolute meat mulcher at close range. It can do decent damage at close-mid range. It still gets spanked at mid to long range.
IMO: it's in a good spot. But if there's something like a 10% across the board damage nerf, it'd still be in the same relative spot and I'd be okay with it.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
281
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The design goals is to increase TTK slightly.
I am happy to read this.
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Orion Vahid
DUST University
Ivy League
252
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:53:00 -
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Oh look, the first whiner about HMGs working properly
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
1005
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:15:00 -
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neausea 1987 wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:Saberwing let slip on IRC (I think it was there) that Remnant has slightly nerfed the CR, no idea how yet, though. i feel the same way i used to rock with the full auto but now i raraly use it because it seems like my kill flow with it has decreased somehow.but maybe im paranoid
as in nerfed it for the next patch, not yet.
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
679
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:50:00 -
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Hmm, I wonder what all these gek guys I keep dying to are doin that you aren't..... |
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AntanTheBeast
G.R.A.V.E
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
150
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:51:00 -
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I think the CR is fine its just mainly the RR.
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
858
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:56:00 -
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my heavy's shields gets destroyed by a CR from 70-80m 
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Orin the Freak
The Solecism of Limitation
689
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:02:00 -
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truthfully, I am worried about a CR nerf. I can just barely kill some people in one magazine as is. I really hope they don't nerf it too badly. that said, I'm willing to take a nerf as long as the RR ceases to be the weapon handed down by the gods. |
CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
ACME Holding Conglomerate
602
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:35:00 -
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all i think needs to be done for the cr is to lower down the rate at which its burst can be refired. the assault variant is fine its basically an smg. only with a tad bit extra range.
the rail rifle is the main weapon that needs the most tweaking though.
as for the hmg. i think its the head shot damage for the gun that destroys majority of the suits. its around 142%.
its been easy for me to get headshot kills with the gun. although i havnt played a while till yesterday so i had a little trouble keeping my big circle on some of those bunnyhopping red dots.
mostly been playing oblivion gaining passive sp.
for the rail rifle i honestly dont know how they will try to balance it.
since the word breach doesnt seem to be in the caldari dictionary.
it could be given longer charge up times. but i dont think its the best solution. we could shorten its range and put more in line with how breach weaponry is apparently supposed to perform. making it function more like the breach assault rifle with slightly better range and maybe put the damage down to the same levels as well. but then that goes against all our science with rail-gun technology. we could give it an over heat function. but i dont think that would work.
im really curious as to what ccp has in mind in order to balance the rail rifle. |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
339
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:44:00 -
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poor AR folks, must be hard to be on the other side of the knife after a way to long reign of terror :(
just skill into something else, just like i did when there was no other rifle usable to play competitive than the AR
another one bites the Dust...
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1122
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:05:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Because I just can't with the AR. When I really begin seeing the differences between the weapons, I feel screwed. I can make it work but when the numbers are LITERALLY against me, there's not that much I can do.
I hear ya bro.
But if you really want to try an outranged and underpowered weapon try the laser.
Then when you try the regular ar again its like ha!! and here I was upset at my underpowered AR...lol!!
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Tectonic Fusion
1004
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:07:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Hmm, I wonder what all these gek guys I keep dying to are doin that you aren't.....
I only died by one rail rifle yesterday, but the combat rifle and assault rifle are used a lot.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
984
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:27:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Hmm, I wonder what all these gek guys I keep dying to are doin that you aren't.....
You tell me. It's a "viable" weapon but damn if it isn't sucky in comparison. I pull out a CR and I rip apart my enemies like it's nothing. In CQC it's supposed to shine but it doesn't. I can EASILY be out gunned by a CR. When, I should be able to do the same to them unless they're armor tanking(most are wearing shields).
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Sick Metagamer
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:36:00 -
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AR users whining again, they want to be the sole weapon in matches. Well I have been counting kills in the kill feed and of rifles the AR STILL is the one with the most kills. Also if you don't like the combat rifle use the burst AR, has a better DPS than the combat rifle does, by far too. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
984
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:41:00 -
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Sick Metagamer wrote:AR users whining again, they want to be the sole weapon in matches. Well I have been counting kills in the kill feed and of rifles the AR STILL is the one with the most kills. Also if you don't like the combat rifle use the burst AR, has a better DPS than the combat rifle does, by far too.
**** off. I'm looking for balance. We don't have that. And last time I checked the Burst AR was the crappiest weapon in thew game. Do you even use it? Have you used it? I try sticking to ARs and their variants. They're my bread and butter but that's bullshit.
I never said I didn't like the Combat Rifle. I don't like that as far as the rifles go my AR doesn't do much compared to it. The AR is CQC focused for it's basic variation but it doesn't dominate, and yes from EVE lore it's supposed to dominate in that area.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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