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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:30:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Also, the description of the combat rifle says it's designed to outrange standard assault rifles.
Bullshit, unless by assault rifles they mean gallente assault rifles.
while the weaponGÇÖs extended range keeps the operator just beyond the threat threshold of most standard assault rifles.
That specifically refers to the Gallente rifle.
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Teilka Darkmist
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:56:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Teilka Darkmist wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Teilka Darkmist wrote:[1] The improved accuracy mentioned in the text looks like it means compared to other 'mass manufactured plasma weapons' it could even mean compared to a previous model of Burst CR..
[2] The better than anything in it's class is reffering to the greater containment field stability not the accuracy, which suggests that it's class is actually 'mass manufactured plasma weapons' not the light weapons catagory Dust uses.
[3] Short, mid or long range will be a classification system that uses the maximum effective range, not be a comparisson between the few, limited types of weapon we have in game. I.e. If anythings max optimal range is under say 10m it's short range (number picked arbitrarily as something that is fairly small).
Finally, the text provided in game is 'flavor text' in this case it looks like it's meant to have come from the rifle's manufacture so it's worded to increase sales. You have the option to actually check out the stats before you buy anything and that's what you should be paying attention to when you decide what weapon to buy.
In short, the text isn't broken, it's part of the lore. "Part of Kaalakiota's Stahl line of weaponry, the rail rifle is a fast-firing precision weapon designed for field operations where penetrative power and range are paramount. Developed using the corporation's proprietary microscale technology, the rail rifle solves oversaturation issues endemic to sustained fire electromagnetic weaponry. However, it's greater range and power are offset by a smaller magazine capacity and lower rate of fire than similarly classified weapons.The foregrip design aids stabilization and remains cool to the touch even during prolonged discharge where the barrel can exceed mean operating temperatures. Featuring a reinforced subassembly and compact, heavy-barrel design, the rail rifle is the premier fully automatic microscale weapon available today." Seems to me that when a description is done it refers to weapons on the class not the line of weapons itself. As you can see from the bolded text this holds true not for the Rail rifle weapon line but for the rifle line. Nowhere in the two examples quoted does either one give a definition for the class of weapons it's in. It's entirely possible that they're each in different classes. The first being a (quoted from the text) 'mass manufactured plasma weapon' the second being a 'rail rifle' for example. The only thing that the two quoted pieces of text shows is that Kaalakiota are more forthcoming about the slight drawbacks of it's weapon than Duvolle, although they do point out that the drawbacks are because of some advantages. They do not specifically point out the weapons but it can be logically assumed that they are referring to the rifles. If the RR had a variant that had lower clip and lower rof then it is safe to assume that the RR is referring to itself.
It's much more logical to assume that they're referring to things that are mentioned in the text (mass manufactured plasma weapons and rail rifle in the two examples posted) than all rifiles. If that were the case, Sniper rifles beat both of them on range and damage.
We don't know if the New Eden universe has other variants of the guns in the game, but it's a much safer assumption that there are because that's how weapons manufacture and improvement works. The manufacturer looks at the weapon they make, find a way to improve it then says 'This is better than the last version because....' It doesn't make sense for them to say 'This is better than this other gun by another manufacturer that isn't designed for the same situation' especially if the claim isn't true.
The first method gets them more sales, the second gets them a reputation for lying about their weapons which results in less sales.
When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
2888
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:58:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:+« mad-+
Burst Rifle is the worst weapon in- Dafuq-+ Yeah, you lost all credibility right there. You leave my G75-VLB alone you unskilled menace.
Seriously though, if you're not doing well, it's not the weapon. I killed several people with GK -13 today I will have you know.
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zibathy numbertwo
Nox Aeterna Security
337
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:00:00 -
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So true that it hurts.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
514
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Posted - 2014.01.25 10:34:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Assault rifle:
"Conceived by Duvolle Laboratories, a corporation best known for its ceaseless R&D, the G75-VLB solves many of the problems inherent in mass-manufactured plasma weapons. [1] The result is a weapon that offers improved accuracy and greater containment field stability (which [2] equates to faster, longer bursts of fire) than anything in its class.
It is a magazine-fed, [3]short-to-mid range weapon offering fully automatic fire. Charged plasma munitions are pumped into a cyclotron that converts the plasma into a highly lethal bolt before it is expelled from the chamber. Upon impact with the target, the magnetic field surrounding the bolt collapses, venting superheated plasma onto the contact point."
[1] The best accuracy comes from the AScR when zoomed and the best hipfire accuracy comes from the Rail rifle. Please change to "Offers the worst accuracy of any gun in its class, even though it's operational range requires good accuracy".
[2] The burst AR is by far one of the worst weapons in Dust and has been for such a long time, as for the rof I believe that goes to the Combat rifle. Please change to "equates to slow rof by conventional standards, and the worst burst weapon ever conceived. Sorry but you better go Minmatar".
[3] Since it has the shortest range and it doesn't match any other gun in range it is a short to short range weapon please change to "short".
I think the entire description is best summarized as, "A sub-optimal weapon best used a SP sink or to change your difficulty, best when used with a Gallente scout and their oh so godly 3 hp/s repair. It offers no real advantages over any other weapon available, even though all those weapons will have extreme advantages over this one. Use of this weapon comes with no warranty to your PS3 hardware if you proceed to smash them in rage from being destroyed by every other rifle."
When the Assault rifle is working as intended please use this definition:
"Particle blasters operate on a similar principle as the-árailgun except they fire a magnetically contained ball of subatomic particles. No other turret class can match the sheer destructive power of particle blasters, but due to the rapid dispersion of the containment field, it also has the worst range of all turrets. Requires hybrid ammo types: antimatter, iridium, iron, lead, plutonium, thorium, tungsten, uranium." OK if ccp does buff the AR add an overheat feature. Also I wouldn't mind my rr having a less accurate hipfire that just means I can spray and pray even better
Ehm the AR already has an overheat mechanic... |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
514
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Posted - 2014.01.25 10:37:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Gallante is supposed to have superior technology but thir AR is terrible compared to CR and RR Amarr is supposed to have the highest developed and therefore the superior technology for its the oldest race in new eden besides jove(dead or missing) and sleepers(crushed by "the other") Check your lore buddy :)
To my knowledge Amarr anf gallente are on par regarding their technology...they simply developed in parallel... |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
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Posted - 2014.01.25 10:56:00 -
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Dude the AR is overpowered, stop whining that the HROF HDPS is beaten by an equally OP HROF HDPS. We need all the Rifles fixed.
AR: Highest Mag, Moderate ROF, best hipfire accuracy, worst ADS accuracy, highest DPS
RR: Lowest Mag, Moderate ROF, worst hipfire accuracy, best ADS accuracy, lowest DPS
Add PROPER recoil to all Rifles using a recoil per bullet system. Remove the recoil reset function. Ensure the accuracy problem with the hmg, isn't happening to the Rifles. Add PROPER momentum based dispersion increase.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
335
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:53:00 -
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RR is MEANT to have the bast Hip-Fire accuracy you know. |
Sgt Buttscratch
1397
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Posted - 2014.01.25 12:30:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:+« mad-+
Burst Rifle is the worst weapon in- Dafuq-+ Yeah, you lost all credibility right there. You leave my G75-VLB alone you unskilled menace.
Seriously though, if you're not doing well, it's not the weapon.
As soon as I got to the burst AR part.. yeah what a nugget. Burst AR works fine.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1697
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Posted - 2014.01.25 14:04:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:+« mad-+
Burst Rifle is the worst weapon in- Dafuq-+ Yeah, you lost all credibility right there. You leave my G75-VLB alone you unskilled menace.
Seriously though, if you're not doing well, it's not the weapon. As soon as I got to the burst AR part.. yeah what a nugget. Burst AR works fine.
Why so much focus on the burst AR comment :| the idea of the thread is more than oh the burst AR is bad bla bla I am speaking of the entire AR line as a whole dammit! The burst AR isn't a bad gun but it isn't the best gun either , if your good with it great fantastic! That's like me posting about the PLC being bad then somebody says no its good because I'm good with it.
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