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Posted - 2014.04.14 04:51:00 -
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D Legendary Hero:
How many times are you going to say the same exact thing? You have posted this same topic like 15 times now, and you get the same 3-4 people to agree with you.
Minmatar suits are just fine (actually they have WAY TOO MUCH stamina regen), aside from the assault needed to switch module layout with the caldari assault.
The only, and I mean the only problem with minmatar suits (and to the same extent caldari) are that some modules are messed up.
1) shield extenders, kin-cats, hacking mods all take too much PG and not enough CPU.
2) Kin-cats and damage mods need to switch slots (dmg mods should be lows and kincats should be highs)
3) Shield extender progression is horrible wrong. should be 44/55/66 to mirror armor plate progression.
4) stun locking is a bit much
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Magnus Amadeuss
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:55:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:D Legendary Hero:
How many times are you going to say the same exact thing? You have posted this same topic like 15 times now, and you get the same 3-4 people to agree with you.
Minmatar suits are just fine (actually they have WAY TOO MUCH stamina regen), aside from the assault needed to switch module layout with the caldari assault.
The only, and I mean the only problem with minmatar suits (and to the same extent caldari) are that some modules are messed up.
1) shield extenders, kin-cats, hacking mods all take too much PG and not enough CPU.
2) Kin-cats and damage mods need to switch slots (dmg mods should be lows and kincats should be highs)
3) Shield extender progression is horrible wrong. should be 44/55/66 to mirror armor plate progression.
4) stun locking is a bit much
Also, minmatar were never an armor "repping race" except from shanghai's idiocy early on. Just like how amarr are not dual tankers, minmatar are not rep tankers. Minmatar are skirmish fighters, this means that eHP is not as valuable as speed, and that you aren't meant to go toe to toe in a fight with a buffer tanker (like amarr).
Keep acting like speed doesn't matter, and keep getting ignored by everyone because of it. sweet jesus you say i repeat the same thing, and you haven't read a single thing. read the OP, because i refuse to reexplain the all the same points when i already defused your argument before you made it. How the **** are you going to skirmish if you cant recover. Minmatar invented the f****** rep tool. In eve the shield tank, they armor tank, they do whatever the f*** the ship is designed for in eve, but as you mentioned all their ships speed tank. Their ships in eve also have some of the best shield recdover stats, and their armor reping is second only to galente. Caldari shield tank, they do not shield recharge. Amar armor tank they do not armor rep. galente armor rep, minmatar shield recharge. Speed =/= ehp. YOU CAN NOT COMPARE EHP TO SPEED. they are 2 completely different speeds.
* Balance speed with stamina.
* balance ehp = recharge and reps
Minmatar in eve get no bonus to armor repping. I could just as easily say "caldari ships are second only to gallente in armor rep" Amarr are incredibly more suited to armor tank due to their vast capacitors and great damage profiles. OTOH minmatar have great shield damage profiles and are much more suited to that. To say that minmatar are not heavily slanted towards shields is to be disingenuous. The only tanking bonus they ever get is to shields.
Caldari are the best shield rechargers in the game, say high to the drake, the rattlesnake/scorpion, etc...
Yes, speed is a form of tanking. Just because you don't like it, that is how it is. That is how it has always been in new eden. eHP is balanced against speed, why in the world do you think armor plates have a speed penalty you idiot?
Speed is not balanced against stamina, otherwise minmatar wouldn't have the highest speed, the fastest stamina regen, and the second highest stamina pools.
Jesus christ man, you just want everything in the world for minmatar don't you?
Look, minnies are not eHP suits, that is not in their racial make-up. It never has been. Stop making stuff up.
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Magnus Amadeuss
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Posted - 2014.04.15 17:08:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:D Legendary Hero:
How many times are you going to say the same exact thing? You have posted this same topic like 15 times now, and you get the same 3-4 people to agree with you.
Minmatar suits are just fine (actually they have WAY TOO MUCH stamina regen), aside from the assault needed to switch module layout with the caldari assault.
The only, and I mean the only problem with minmatar suits (and to the same extent caldari) are that some modules are messed up.
1) shield extenders, kin-cats, hacking mods all take too much PG and not enough CPU.
2) Kin-cats and damage mods need to switch slots (dmg mods should be lows and kincats should be highs)
3) Shield extender progression is horrible wrong. should be 44/55/66 to mirror armor plate progression.
4) stun locking is a bit much
Also, minmatar were never an armor "repping race" except from shanghai's idiocy early on. Just like how amarr are not dual tankers, minmatar are not rep tankers. Minmatar are skirmish fighters, this means that eHP is not as valuable as speed, and that you aren't meant to go toe to toe in a fight with a buffer tanker (like amarr).
Keep acting like speed doesn't matter, and keep getting ignored by everyone because of it. sweet jesus you say i repeat the same thing, and you haven't read a single thing. read the OP, because i refuse to reexplain the all the same points when i already defused your argument before you made it. How the **** are you going to skirmish if you cant recover. Minmatar invented the f****** rep tool. In eve the shield tank, they armor tank, they do whatever the f*** the ship is designed for in eve, but as you mentioned all their ships speed tank. Their ships in eve also have some of the best shield recdover stats, and their armor reping is second only to galente. Caldari shield tank, they do not shield recharge. Amar armor tank they do not armor rep. galente armor rep, minmatar shield recharge. Speed =/= ehp. YOU CAN NOT COMPARE EHP TO SPEED. they are 2 completely different speeds.
* Balance speed with stamina.
* balance ehp = recharge and reps Minmatar in eve get no bonus to armor repping. I could just as easily say "caldari ships are second only to gallente in armor rep" Amarr are incredibly more suited to armor tank due to their vast capacitors and great damage profiles. OTOH minmatar have great shield damage profiles and are much more suited to that. To say that minmatar are not heavily slanted towards shields is to be disingenuous. The only tanking bonus they ever get is to shields. Caldari are the best shield rechargers in the game, say high to the drake, the rattlesnake/scorpion, etc... Yes, speed is a form of tanking. Just because you don't like it, that is how it is. That is how it has always been in new eden. eHP is balanced against speed, why in the world do you think armor plates have a speed penalty you idiot? Speed is not balanced against stamina, otherwise minmatar wouldn't have the highest speed, the fastest stamina regen, and the second highest stamina pools. Jesus christ man, you just want everything in the world for minmatar don't you? Look, minnies are not eHP suits, that is not in their racial make-up. It never has been. Stop making stuff up. dude, 4% really? thats a penalty? christ. 4% penalty to peed does not translate into a 110 armor boost. stop bullshiting right there. your just a racist. Seriously, anytime anything thats not what you want asks for a buff you want it nerfed. In fact, you dnt agree with anyone do you. look, unlike you i have a job, so, i wont respond to your next line of elephant **** for a few days. But, feel free to respond and say what ever you want. because obviously you are not reading anything im writting. You just like things broken. Basically, you dnt use it so, you dnt want it fixed. well **** you. You complete idiot, you obviously have no idea what balance means. You rant about EVE but eve isnt balanced either, although more balanced than dust. look. just read what i posted. because like i said before, i will not repost it. thanks for trolling my thread. good day
Hey want to see what someone who knows how to use minmatar stuff looks like, go here
I have seen ghost chance fighting for minmatar in FW, and he is good. He knows what he is talking about, you.. you are just an idiot.
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