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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.01.20 16:47:00 -
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EVERYONE needs to do their part on the CPM election. A lot of people don't go to the forums, and it's going to be up to those who do to broadcast in-game to their corps and alliances just how crucial the CPM election will be, and urge every player possible to vote. Get everyone involved, and show CCP how important it is to have their player council listened to.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.20 18:13:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:I have to respectfully disagree. It should be one account, one vote as it is for csm not linked to wp or sp at all. Eve has just as much opportunity for multiple accounts as dust has and considering that the monthly fee for eve can be paid for purely by making money in game and there are people who earn enough isk in a month on just one character that they could afford a plex for multiple accounts the argument that eve players pay a subscription and dust players don't is a non-issue or at least greatly reduced.
Even with PLEX, it's significant time investment to accomplish funding additional accounts. And through that PLEX, CCP was originally paid for it. Meaning each vote indicates an expenditure of money somewhere along the line. The cost of supporting accounts, be it ISK or real monies makes it prohibitive to stack voting. The amount of "voter fraud" would pale in comparison to the number of overall votes, and be generally negligible.
On the other hand, with DUST's smaller community, and the fact that you can spin up a new account every three minutes, it'd be extremely easy to overrun the voting system with fictitious votes and change the outcome of the election. Due to boosters and passive SP, I think a War Point gate is the most responsible measure, as it requires that you've actually played the game a certain amount.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.20 19:41:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:A trader can potentially earn several billion isk a month whilst mostly logged off by putting buy and sell orders on the market. Yes they need some capital to start off, which does takes either a little time or some rl money through buying plexes. And there is some time spent online deciding what to buy and sell and managing the actual orders, but it doesn't have to be a significant amount of time.
It would cost an exorbitant amount of money, either in-game or out-of-game, to make a meaningful dent on a CSM election. As in, the richest players in the game unloading all of their assets might not be enough.
Teilka Darkmist wrote:As to the SP or WP limit for dust players. I've had a character since beta and, due to real life concerns, I haven't been able to play as much as I would have liked, also, due to my preffered playstyle of being a sniper my wp's per match is actually pretty low. Right now, my SP stands at just under 9.6 million and my wp total is just over 25k. What you're suggesting would likely deny me my vote due to factors mostly beyond my control.
We don't know how high the bar might be set, but conceivably, if you don't meet a certain war point bar, you may not have the experience with the game to make an informed decision on who to vote for. I'm sure CCP will use a great deal of statistics and metrics we don't have access to to come up with where that bar is, and I'm sure they'll be trying to include as many people as possible.
Teilka Darkmist wrote:I do agree that there should probably be a minimum time you've had an account to qualify to vote, I don't believe that trial account holders in eve get to vote for csm for example (I could be wrong there though). That would mean that spinning up a new account every three minutes is not a possible tactic and makes some sense in that an account less than maybe a few weeks old likely doesn't have the background knowledge of the game and it's issues to make an informed decision between the candidates.
A significant number of players spun up anywhere from five to thirty different PSN accounts back when the game first started, knowing that accruing passive ISK would eventually make them usable. With the smaller number of voters participating on the CPM election, massive numbers of duplicate accounts made during open beta are enough to heavily slant a CPM vote. And since the election date isn't established yet, people could spend a day or two this week generating several hundred PSN accounts, and they would likely be old enough by election day to qualify by your metric.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.20 20:02:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:so u guys are concerned about people rigging the election?
It is a longstanding tradition of New Eden that if it's possible to rig something, someone will inevitably try and rig it. Notice how half the corps in Planetary Conquest are using an exploit to lock districts and prevent having to defend their stuff.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:21:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:I dont think people will be familiar enough with the system to cheat this election. cpm2 maybe
CSM elections have been going eight years. The players from the EVE side have experience. While this election, being the first for the DUST community, will be a little less predictable, CSM election math is so well nailed-down that people were able to pretty accurately Nate Silver-down who would be on the CSM8 before the votes were cast.
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