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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:28:00 -
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So I don't know how many of you are familiar with EVE Online. Or for that matter, if you even care but I feel as though I should bring something to your attention.
In EVE Online - Amarr roleplayers generally go by the alliance name of CVA (Curatores Veritatis Alliance)
The rest of the community general calls them; Scrubs, LOL RP-ers and a manner of other unwelcome names.
In DUST however the last few months I have noticed that its cool to be an Amarr RP-er. Or if not an RPer then its very fashionable to be an Amarr loyalist.
Why is this I wonder? |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1663
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:34:00 -
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"The Amarr are better then you" Aisha Ctarl
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1415
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:36:00 -
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Because popped collars and battle-skirts.
Yours Truly,
Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5516
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:36:00 -
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This is due partly because another strongly established Amarr role play corp EVE side, Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris, aka PIE Inc, has stretched its arms out to Dust. True Adamance, myself, Maikyl Metsar, and some others have joined PIE and become very vocal on the forums. Particularly, we are all very familiar with the lore of New Eden and have our counter arguments prepared for every negative accusation one could make against the Amarr.
Additionally, there are many other players not associated with the alliance who are also very vocal and know their lore very well. Personally, the Amarr are the most interesting and possibly one of the easiest races to defend because most the accusations you get are very ill-thought out by people who simply cry "slavery" without any deeper understanding of Amarr or New Eden in general.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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Cooper Eudaemon
DUST University
Ivy League
112
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:37:00 -
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FPSers get more of a kick out of being the bad guy? :p
I need a break from Dust! I'll just go hop on the forums...
I need a break from the forums! I'll just go hop on Dust...
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Aziagarth Haus
Kinda New here
8
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:39:00 -
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Theocratical states must be a thing.
I barely know much about EVE, I chose the Amarr because I liked the background history of the Empire. I don't RP much though, but I hope to in the future. |
Leezir
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:41:00 -
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Cooper Eudaemon wrote:FPSers get more of a kick out of being the bad guy? :p
Gallente are the real bad guys |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5924
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:41:00 -
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Cooper Eudaemon wrote:FPSers get more of a kick out of being the bad guy? :p
The Amarr are the good guy, you know that right?
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5517
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:41:00 -
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Cooper Eudaemon wrote:FPSers get more of a kick out of being the bad guy? :p
The bad guys are the Gallente, and I can give you every bit of evidence needed to prove that point if you wish. The Amarr are quite possibly New Eden's best chance of achieving cluster-wide peace.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
335
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:42:00 -
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Amarr FW RPers are cool in dust and eve. CVA are scrubs tho forever.
I was in provi when we kicked CVA out years ago, greatest moment of my eve life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXlEQW49kvo |
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1983
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:45:00 -
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Because i make Amarr look good. 
Selling Templar BPO 250Mil
Earn 50Mil+ ISK in Dust
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
69
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:45:00 -
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The responses were better than I expected.
I love the fact you guys get so behind the races in DUST. I have to admit though, I came from playing EVE Online for about 4 years.
In EVE after you have been playing that long you realise ALL races are important and you train into each and everyone of them.
People say - "A jack of all trades or a master of one" Well in EVE it doesn't quite work like that. I guess the analogy can be more akin to ship types than racial flavour. As such I LOVE CalAmarrGalMatar!
Edit - Though If I HAD to pick I would be a Caldari loyalist as I value efficiency in life. Plus you gotta love the under dog! So that would make me an Ally of the wretched Amarr hummm, a precarious situation indeed. |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5518
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:49:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:The responses were better than I expected.
I love the fact you guys get so behind the races in DUST. I have to admit though, I came from playing EVE Online for about 4 years.
In EVE after you have been playing that long you realise ALL races are important and you train into each and everyone of them.
People say - "A jack of all trades or a master of one" Well in EVE it doesn't quite work like that. I guess the analogy can be more akin to ship types than racial flavour. As such I LOVE CalAmarrGalMatar!
That doesn't stop PIE from running only Amarr hulls. People call them crazy, but they make it work.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
70
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:52:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:The responses were better than I expected.
I love the fact you guys get so behind the races in DUST. I have to admit though, I came from playing EVE Online for about 4 years.
In EVE after you have been playing that long you realise ALL races are important and you train into each and everyone of them.
People say - "A jack of all trades or a master of one" Well in EVE it doesn't quite work like that. I guess the analogy can be more akin to ship types than racial flavour. As such I LOVE CalAmarrGalMatar! That doesn't stop PIE from running only Amarr hulls. People call them crazy, but they make it work.
Interesting. I remember a few years ago when the illustrious Pandemic Legion would run Amarr Zealot gangs to great effect. I learnt very hard and very fast as a noob that bigger does not mean better as I died in my brick tanked, double doomsday tanked Rokh or Megathron.
I assume you realise the dificulties in EVE sticking with one race for fleet battles? You do have the Abbadon though, and my favourite ship of all - the Archon! Mmm MMmm. |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
116
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:53:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Cooper Eudaemon wrote:FPSers get more of a kick out of being the bad guy? :p The bad guys are the Gallente, and I can give you every bit of evidence needed to prove that point if you wish. The Amarr are quite possibly New Eden's best chance of achieving cluster-wide peace.
the amarr remind me of the US military, and the USMC in general, Peace through superior firepower
...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it.
i eat babies
forum warrior Lv0
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
442
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:56:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:In DUST however the last few months I have noticed that its cool to be an Amarr RP-er.
I think you got "it's cool to be Amarr" and "the Cool are Amarr" mixed up. 
Here you can type your bio.
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
335
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Posted - 2014.01.20 04:58:00 -
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Tho speaking of scrub RPs, Electus Matari takes the biggest cake on that, I used to put cans full of "slaves" out side their stations and hold them for ransom, they hated me. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
3382
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:00:00 -
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Leezir wrote:
Gallente are the real bad guys
We're not evil, just look at our representatives.
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1421
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:00:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Tho speaking of scrub RPs, Electus Matari takes the biggest cake on that, I used to put cans full of "slaves" out side their stations and hold them for ransom, they hated me.
That sounds hilarious.
Yours Truly,
Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
70
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:01:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:In DUST however the last few months I have noticed that its cool to be an Amarr RP-er. I think you got "it's cool to be Amarr" and "the Cool are Amarr" mixed up.
Haha I certainly DID NOT, however +1 for that it gave me a laugh.
Beck Weathers wrote: Tho speaking of scrub RPs, Electus Matari takes the biggest cake on that, I used to put cans full of "slaves" out side their stations and hold them for ransom, they hated me.
I love the fact you can do things like this in eve. So many random items and bits and bobs that are meaningless in the game generally but can be used in such a way as this. Like your example of storage cans full of slaves. Muhaha! |
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5521
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:01:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:The responses were better than I expected.
I love the fact you guys get so behind the races in DUST. I have to admit though, I came from playing EVE Online for about 4 years.
In EVE after you have been playing that long you realise ALL races are important and you train into each and everyone of them.
People say - "A jack of all trades or a master of one" Well in EVE it doesn't quite work like that. I guess the analogy can be more akin to ship types than racial flavour. As such I LOVE CalAmarrGalMatar! That doesn't stop PIE from running only Amarr hulls. People call them crazy, but they make it work. Interesting. I remember a few years ago when the illustrious Pandemic Legion would run Amarr Zealot gangs to great effect. I learnt very hard and very fast as a noob that bigger does not mean better as I died in my brick tanked, double doomsday tanked Rokh or Megathron. I assume you realise the dificulties in EVE sticking with one race for fleet battles? You do have the Abbadon though, and my favourite ship of all - the Archon! Mmm MMmm. While I am a member of PIE, I am exclusive to the Dust side of things. I have not actually played EVE, so have no first hand knowledge. However, I talk with my EVE corp mates (well, it's technically an alliance but in lore we just call it one big corp with branches) quite a lot and they have indeed told me the difficulties of running exclusively one faction's hulls. But again, role playing and supporting Amarr is what we do, so we embrace the challenges to make it work.
We hold up the same ideals Dust side as well, only using Amarr dropsuits (except for light frames currently) and once the vehicles come out we will only run Amarr versions as well. Not quite the same level of difficulties, but it is still present to some degree. Especially when the enemy knows all of us are going to be armor tanking so they bring out the combat rifles, mass drivers, locus grenades, and such.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
70
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:08:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:The responses were better than I expected.
I love the fact you guys get so behind the races in DUST. I have to admit though, I came from playing EVE Online for about 4 years.
In EVE after you have been playing that long you realise ALL races are important and you train into each and everyone of them.
People say - "A jack of all trades or a master of one" Well in EVE it doesn't quite work like that. I guess the analogy can be more akin to ship types than racial flavour. As such I LOVE CalAmarrGalMatar! That doesn't stop PIE from running only Amarr hulls. People call them crazy, but they make it work. Interesting. I remember a few years ago when the illustrious Pandemic Legion would run Amarr Zealot gangs to great effect. I learnt very hard and very fast as a noob that bigger does not mean better as I died in my brick tanked, double doomsday tanked Rokh or Megathron. I assume you realise the dificulties in EVE sticking with one race for fleet battles? You do have the Abbadon though, and my favourite ship of all - the Archon! Mmm MMmm. While I am a member of PIE, I am exclusive to the Dust side of things. I have not actually played EVE, so have no first hand knowledge. However, I talk with my EVE corp mates (well, it's technically an alliance but in lore we just call it one big corp with branches) quite a lot and they have indeed told me the difficulties of running exclusively one faction's hulls. But again, role playing and supporting Amarr is what we do, so we embrace the challenges to make it work. We hold up the same ideals Dust side as well, only using Amarr dropsuits (except for light frames currently) and once the vehicles come out we will only run Amarr versions as well. Not quite the same level of difficulties, but it is still present to some degree. Especially when the enemy knows all of us are going to be armor tanking so they bring out the combat rifles, mass drivers, locus grenades, and such.
Cool. I didn't know that but its good to hear. And that right there is what makes this game better than most FPS`s - Even if we all play a beta game.
I just want to say one thing - in EVE you have Carriers. Much like todays aircraft carries. It is generally considered that the Ammarian Archon is one of the best if not the best carrier going. Very tough with huge bonuses to repair and energy transfer ranges. Whilst also having innate resist bonuses.
Also the laser rifle in DUST is the weapon most similar to the Amarr weapons of choice up in space in EVE.
Now check this cool little thing - Imagine being able to swap out the laser crystal at will (The ammo type if you will) so you are able to go from short range high damage beams to a longer range , less damaging but more sustained crystal or ammo type.
Having this ability in dust for the Laser Rifle would be so sweet. I want my Conflaguration ammo for close range and my Scorch for long range please CCP.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1073
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:16:00 -
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It's odd to find it in this game. It's sad to see too many non-RPers in EVE. I'm not talking about that in character crap either. I mean the good old D&D kind where you simply have an idea about your character and define them accordingly.
Funny too about in character RP. The game that started that kind of LARP style play was the very game which CCP is now developing into an MMO.
The statement the OP made regarding ppl not knowing about EVE makes CCP's efforts with this game even sadder. Ppl playing this game should d*mn well know what EVE is. The link would have helped do that. It's now just another independent FPS.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5521
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:18:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:
Also the laser rifle in DUST is the weapon most similar to the Amarr weapons of choice up in space in EVE.
Now check this cool little thing - Imagine being able to swap out the laser crystal at will (The ammo type if you will) so you are able to go from short range high damage beams to a longer range , less damaging but more sustained crystal or ammo type.
Having this ability in dust for the Laser Rifle would be so sweet. I want my Conflaguration ammo for close range and my Scorch for long range please CCP.
Well scrambler rifles too are pulse lasers, which are also heavily used in EVE by the Amarr. Though to be clear, PIE may have a preference to lasers but we use all turret types, the only restriction is hulls. Same goes with Dust, can use any weapon but must use Amarr dropsuits/vehicles, though I run almost exclusively scrambler rifle, scrambler pistol, and laser rifle anyways.
I do very much like the idea of swapping out crystals, but this would probably have to be in the form of weapon variants, and only selecting one "crystal" type per fit. Just based around the way CCP has Dust set up, allowing to swap crystals on the fly would be too powerful of an ability relatively speaking. Of course, if they change it so other weapons can also switch firing modes on the fly (like say an Assault rifle can switch to full auto, breach, burst, and single shot firing modes all on the fly) then it could work.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1173
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:20:00 -
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the amarr tried to save us, they offered the empires an alternative to the implant, an end to the voices. the empires suspected treachery though, and the amarr implant was rejected. treachery or otherwise it was worth a shot, an end to all the damn voices, a reprieve from ever encroaching madness. they tried to save us from ourselves, from the sleepers, one and the same. one by one my comrades, my brothers in arms lost their grip on the world and slipped into a dark, dark place. killing the innocent and painting the walls with their blood, could the empress's implant have lead to a worse fate?
my move to the private sector has helped, but I still gaze into the abyss daily and fight my inner monsters, fight it, fight me, which is which I no longer know. there isn't a day that goes by where I don't wonder if the amarr could have saved me, from it, the sleeper.
[this is probably the only time you will see knight role play, so enjoy that.]
[if you haven't read the fiction under the media tab of the main page I strongly recommend it. it may help you understand my post... a lot. also I have to give a shout out to pie for promoting amarr loyalty and dispelling some of the rumors surrounding the amarr. incase you didn't pick up on my motives because I suck at creative writing I believe that I owe the amarr empire a debt of gratitude for at least trying to save the mercs from the implant, again read the fiction if you don't know what I'm talking about it's good trust me ]
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5523
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:27:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:the amarr tried to save us, they offered the empires an alternative to the implant, an end to the voices. the empires suspected treachery though, and the amarr implant was rejected. treachery or otherwise it was worth a shot, an end to all the damn voices, a reprieve from ever encroaching madness. they tried to save us from ourselves, from the sleepers, one and the same. one by one my comrades, my brothers in arms lost their grip on the world and slipped into a dark, dark place. killing the innocent and painting the walls with their blood, could the empress's implant have lead to a worse fate? my move to the private sector has helped, but I still gaze into the abyss daily and fight my inner monsters, fight it, fight me, which is which I no longer know. there isn't a day that goes by where I don't wonder if the amarr could have saved me, from it, the sleeper. [ this is probably the only time you will see knight role play, so enjoy that.] [ if you haven't read the fiction under the media tab of the main page I strongly recommend it. it may help you understand my post... a lot. also I have to give a shout out to pie for promoting amarr loyalty and dispelling some of the rumors surrounding the amarr. incase you didn't pick up on my motives because I suck at creative writing I believe that I owe the amarr empire a debt of gratitude for at least trying to save the mercs from the implant, again read the fiction if you don't know what I'm talking about it's good trust me]
If I may critique your role play just a bit? While yes, it is true that Empress Jamyl called a meeting with all the faction leaders to tell them about the problems with first-gen implant tech and offer them their re-engineered versions to save them the trouble, this is not something any of our characters would know. The meeting itself was highly secretive and the information regarding it is highly classified. Thus, it doesn't make sense for your character to acknowledge these events as he simply would not know.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1174
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:40:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:knight of 6 wrote:the amarr tried to save us, they offered the empires an alternative to the implant, an end to the voices. the empires suspected treachery though, and the amarr implant was rejected. treachery or otherwise it was worth a shot, an end to all the damn voices, a reprieve from ever encroaching madness. they tried to save us from ourselves, from the sleepers, one and the same. one by one my comrades, my brothers in arms lost their grip on the world and slipped into a dark, dark place. killing the innocent and painting the walls with their blood, could the empress's implant have lead to a worse fate? my move to the private sector has helped, but I still gaze into the abyss daily and fight my inner monsters, fight it, fight me, which is which I no longer know. there isn't a day that goes by where I don't wonder if the amarr could have saved me, from it, the sleeper. [ this is probably the only time you will see knight role play, so enjoy that.] [ if you haven't read the fiction under the media tab of the main page I strongly recommend it. it may help you understand my post... a lot. also I have to give a shout out to pie for promoting amarr loyalty and dispelling some of the rumors surrounding the amarr. incase you didn't pick up on my motives because I suck at creative writing I believe that I owe the amarr empire a debt of gratitude for at least trying to save the mercs from the implant, again read the fiction if you don't know what I'm talking about it's good trust me] If I may critique your role play just a bit? While yes, it is true that Empress Jamyl called a meeting with all the faction leaders to tell them about the problems with first-gen implant tech and offer them their re-engineered versions to save them the trouble, this is not something any of our characters would know. The meeting itself was highly secretive and the information regarding it is highly classified. Thus, it doesn't make sense for your character to acknowledge these events as he simply would not know.
THIS IS WHY I DON'T RP!
nah jk
that actually crossed my mind while writing it, then I thought door guard + word gets around but it would be silly not to assume there wasn't some sort of sound proofing in place. truth be told it was simpler not to worry about it and made it easier to convey my point. though my character may be ignorant I am not, and my character is me so... yea that's a paradox.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5525
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Posted - 2014.01.20 05:46:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:
THIS IS WHY I DON'T RP!
nah jk
that actually crossed my mind while writing it, then I thought door guard + word gets around but it would be silly not to assume there wasn't some sort of sound proofing in place. truth be told it was simpler not to worry about it and made it easier to convey my point. though my character may be ignorant I am not, and my character is me so... yea that's a paradox.
Fair enough. The specific guardsman for the event aren't just any old folk though, they are extremely loyal to their respective factions so I'm not sure if the details would spread, and even then none of them were in position to hear what was being spoken, just that their was a meeting. Nonetheless it is a possibility, though it'd probably be nothing more than rumors.
I've spoken about this general concept with other people who enjoy role playing (even if just to a small degree). It would be really nice if CCP only revealed this information in the form of a news report so we can then reference all these articles properly in character.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
876
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Posted - 2014.01.20 06:33:00 -
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I'm not an Amarr RPer myself, but I do roleplay in quite a unique position, focusing on the struggles of a single bloodline rather than general FW alignment RP. I just get more enjoyment out of my games when I can think how my character's life would work in it and what kind of relations he would have.
But on the topic, as people said the active Amarr roleplayers are also vocal on the forums, and they can argue their points very well. Also the fact that pretty much the only Amarr FW corps also do RP
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 14th
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