DUST Search - Prediction: Scouts are going to become FOTM (It feels weird as **** to type it)

CRYPT3C W0LF wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Scouts will be powerful in their prospective role.

Not OP.

We still won't be able to take on groups of Assaults or Heavies head on. You will see a lot of hit and run or assassination tactics instead. The "Light Assault" scout will be a definite move for some Med frame players, but they will have to get used to the insanely low eHP that comes with this.

Take the Cal scout for instance. You wanna run 4 complex shields? That 44 PG right off the bat. HALF of your PG is gone. You also kill your shield depleted, so you will need to run a regulator in your low. You know have one low slot to build your suit. So if you run a PG mod (So you can fit everything else) you have no speed. Or dampening. A Gal logi will scan you with no problems, and other suits Proto scans will scan you. Stealth is now gone, and your speed is "decent" at best (My min assault can sprint faster than you). You are now running a watered down assault. You would be better off sticking with the Cal assault, running 502 shields with 60hp/s recharge and regulators and Armor in your lows.

Cat Merc specifically stated he in the first post that he's not saying scouts will be OP. The thread title doesn't suggest that either. He's simply suggesting it will be a FOTM. It is possible to be the FOTM without being OP.

Is it me, or is that missing logic? :P


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Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1462	Posted - 2014.01.19 20:07:00 - [1] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Are you QQ because 360scan514 is over and flanking can actually happen? Where in the op does it say they're complaining about these changes? I don't even read Taka posts anymore. I support SP rollover.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1462	Posted - 2014.01.19 21:04:00 - [2] - Quote Scouts will become serious business for sure. Even as they are now both the Gallente and Minmatar scouts are semi viable as fight suits. This is classic CCP all over again, for better or for worse. Every one of the proposed scout changes are game changers: PG/CPU, Scan Profile, Cloaks, Equipment slot, Low/Hi slots. Each one of these changes would have gone a long way towards making scouts more viable. Taken together, the changes are overwhelming, tbh. Our better scouts who use the suits in their natural roles are about to become assassination machines. I'm not complaining, but after a few months of being hunted i'm sure a few of us will be seeking professional councilling for scout-induced PTSD(Can we bill that to our corps?). I suppose the ideal situation is when every suit is FOTM at the same time. CCP's proposed racial and role-based rebalancing is giving me a lot of hope that one fine day there will be a lot of agonizing over and no clear answer to what is or is not FOTM. It remains to be seen which way we go with Assaults. If we bonus them as their role demands then that bonus will be intimately linked with CCP's decisions on TTK & how strafey they want this shooter to be. I support SP rollover.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1462	Posted - 2014.01.19 21:18:00 - [3] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Having spent the past few months struggling with minmatar assaults the new Galente scout will suit that speedy assault class way better. Too true. The Minny Assault is the most unloved and neglected medium frame in the game. I support SP rollover.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1462	Posted - 2014.01.19 21:20:00 - [4] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Scouts will be powerful in their prospective role. Not OP. We still won't be able to take on groups of Assaults or Heavies head on. You will see a lot of hit and run or assassination tactics instead. The "Light Assault" scout will be a definite move for some Med frame players, but they will have to get used to the insanely low eHP that comes with this. Take the Cal scout for instance. You wanna run 4 complex shields? That 44 PG right off the bat. HALF of your PG is gone. You also kill your shield depleted, so you will need to run a regulator in your low. You know have one low slot to build your suit. So if you run a PG mod (So you can fit everything else) you have no speed. Or dampening. A Gal logi will scan you with no problems, and other suits Proto scans will scan you. Stealth is now gone, and your speed is "decent" at best (My min assault can sprint faster than you). You are now running a watered down assault. You would be better off sticking with the Cal assault, running 502 shields with 60hp/s recharge and regulators and Armor in your lows. Cat Merc specifically stated he in the first post that he's not saying scouts will be OP. The thread title doesn't suggest that either. He's simply suggesting it will be a FOTM. It is possible to be the FOTM without being OP. Is it me, or is that missing logic? :P Do you mean in the same way that mass buys and sells on the stock markets are missing logic? I support SP rollover.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1467	Posted - 2014.01.20 14:32:00 - [5] - Quote shady merc wrote: While I see the potential of the scout becoming possible OP. I think we will see the rise of an assault suit using cloaks. With the current scout bonus to cloak being 15% to fittings, and assuming the basic scout doesn't have to destroy his entire fit to use on then its not so bad for an assault to equip. 15% is nice but that can be gained though passive bonuses. Combine with the additional hit points of the assault and the fact that they are not much slower then scouts, this game may become very "campy". I can see ambush being mostly cloak infantry with drop ships and tanks roaming the field. The thing about this is that CCP is implementing cloaks in DUST like they do in EVE - HUUUUGE fitting costs, made reasonable only by the Scout class fitting bonus. Any other suit fitting cloak is going to pay a crippling price for it. I support SP rollover.