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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
130
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Posted - 2014.01.19 02:56:00 -
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Why are people able to snipe from on-top of the MCC. They get a cheap dropship - fly up land and recall.
Its ridiculous :( |
Sgt Buttscratch
1338
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:06:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Why are people able to snipe from on-top of the MCC. They get a cheap dropship - fly up land and recall.
Its ridiculous :(
So you want the game to be a boring single dimesional snooze fest right? I like the fact that people can fly dropships upto random places and snipe, keeps you on your toes.. You can't drop hives up there(I know how to  ), so they are limited to one clip before making the journey to ground then flying back up, and remember there are rail tanks everywhere these days.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
57
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:06:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Why are people able to snipe from on-top of the MCC. They get a cheap dropship - fly up land and recall.
Its ridiculous :(
I would say - why not just snipe them off of that MCC but many many times I have tried to counter snipe - I either get 0 hit markers even though I am most definitely shooting the enemy, or I get that blue flash a 0 damage.
The other day I put 2 sets of 3 rounds (6 total rounds at over 220 dmg each shot with an advanced tactical sniper) into a Thale's sniper on the other team and it registered not 1 single bit of damage. I moved closer and still I was unable to damage them.
Is it elevation? Is it range? I have no idea as when I get this bug / issue I always try and move vantage point to see if it helps but usually it makes no difference. Am I missing something? |
Kahn Zo
Furyan Alpha
242
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:07:00 -
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where is a will, there is a way.
So it be in Dust
" No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit." ~ mollerz
" yes, yes you can! when 1.8 deploys..." ~ Kahn Zo
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Sgt Buttscratch
1338
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:07:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Why are people able to snipe from on-top of the MCC. They get a cheap dropship - fly up land and recall.
Its ridiculous :( I would say - why not just snipe them off of that MCC but many many times I have tried to counter snipe - I either get 0 hit markers even though I am most definitely shooting the enemy, or I get that blue flash a 0 damage. The other day I put 2 sets of 3 rounds (6 total rounds at over 220 dmg each shot with an advanced tactical sniper) into a Thale's sniper on the other team and it registered not 1 single bit of damage. I moved closer and still I was unable to damage them. Is it elevation? Is it range? I have no idea as when I get this bug / issue I always try and move vantage point to see if it helps but usually it makes no difference. Am I missing something?
Theres certain angles to get them at, once you know them it's easy easy.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1830
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:08:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote: Am I missing something?
Rendering at that distance draws the "rough" outline instead of the real outline, causing you to see your target when you should not (See: Tower Edges) and causing that "Blue Flash."
You need to be at a much better angle close to where they can roughly shoot or past that, and aim for their head as chances are the body is juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust behind cover causing blue flashes.
^
Coming from two years of counter-sniping through various levels of graphical BS.
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
580
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:12:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote: Am I missing something? Rendering at that distance draws the "rough" outline instead of the real outline, causing you to see your target when you should not (See: Tower Edges) and causing that "Blue Flash." You need to be at a much better angle close to where they can roughly shoot or past that, and aim for their head as chances are the body is juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust behind cover causing blue flashes. ^ Coming from two years of counter-sniping through various levels of graphical BS.
Nope. It's just hit detection. Happens to me when they are right in front of me and I empty a whole mag of my rail rifle with 0 damage being dealt. |
el OPERATOR
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:14:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Why are people able to snipe from on-top of the MCC. They get a cheap dropship - fly up land and recall.
Its ridiculous :(
I thought that was an already hotfixed bug?
Open-Beta Vet.
NPC Corp Independent Contractor.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
57
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:18:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote: Am I missing something? Rendering at that distance draws the "rough" outline instead of the real outline, causing you to see your target when you should not (See: Tower Edges) and causing that "Blue Flash." You need to be at a much better angle close to where they can roughly shoot or past that, and aim for their head as chances are the body is juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust behind cover causing blue flashes. ^ Coming from two years of counter-sniping through various levels of graphical BS. Nope. It's just hit detection. Happens to me when they are right in front of me and I empty a whole mag of my rail rifle with 0 damage being dealt.
I have both of these problems from time to time but usually the former.
CCP need to fix this, but I wont rage and shout. There is a lot CCP just leave or dont get around to in this game. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
132
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:21:00 -
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There is no diminish on the weapon? Or charge/bullet drop?
There is little skill needed to do this and you will kill proto suits with 10x the skill.
CCP equalizes when cheap isk things are able to smash expensive fits. Landing on the MCC should cause damage - It is taking fire but you can sit on it and snipe? |
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Rusty Shallows
834
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:26:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Why are people able to snipe from on-top of the MCC. They get a cheap dropship - fly up land and recall.
Its ridiculous :(
Or we can have hatches to the top accessible through the Jump Deck and skip the DS part altogether. The MCC pilot could just target that area for their missile strike. Most Eve Capsuleers would do it without a second though, then ask if they are getting a bounty payment.
MCC Lounge Lizard
Forums > Game
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2626
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:28:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:
Landing on the MCC should cause damage - It is taking fire but you can sit on it and snipe?
That just doesn't make any sense. Landing on the MCC causes damage? Just how?
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
132
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:33:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:
Landing on the MCC should cause damage - It is taking fire but you can sit on it and snipe?
That just doesn't make any sense. Landing on the MCC causes damage? Just how?
Because it is under fire with huge missles - the splash damage should be crazy.
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
115
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:34:00 -
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Because 20k damage missiles are being shot at it, but you can just sit on it and snipe? Legitimately the MCC should shake from the impacts, as well as slowly degrade in altitude and structural integrity due to damage and gradual system failure. And the enemiesmcc shots shouldn't land in the same place.
Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
2556
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:38:00 -
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from my experiances you can't snipe off due to its shields
"Imagine a world where hypothetical thoughts didn't exist" -Draxus Prime
Closed Beta Vet
Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
132
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Posted - 2014.01.21 17:38:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Because 20k damage missiles are being shot at it, but you can just sit on it and snipe? Legitimately the MCC should shake from the impacts, as well as slowly degrade in altitude and structural integrity due to damage and gradual system failure. And the enemiesmcc shots shouldn't land in the same place.
Ya, its a cheap way to play. You lose very little no suits and get kills like crazy. It does not promote positive gameplay.
I hope this thread points them out to other snipers to help limit it. I also hope more people do it to really show the negative effect and see if CCP will stay hands off with this crap - they didn't with vehicles (I don't use vehicles so this is not a rage on nerfs for them jus ta point that CCP is more involved in controlling Dust game play unlike EVE. |
Jakar Umbra
Altyr Initiative
476
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Posted - 2014.01.21 17:54:00 -
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One does not simply recall a dropship on the MCC. Mainly because any dropship that comes into contact with the MCC immediately explodes and/or falls off before anything can be done.
Author of Umbra's Short Stories. Last story posted 01/21/2014.
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
133
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Posted - 2014.01.21 17:55:00 -
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Jakar Umbra wrote:One does not simply recall a dropship on the MCC. Mainly because any dropship that comes into contact with the MCC immediately explodes and/or falls off before anything can be done.
People are doing this. So saying they are not or can't just means your a moron or a baddy.  |
Requin Toblat
Glitched Connection
13
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:31:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Why are people able to snipe from on-top of the MCC. They get a cheap dropship - fly up land and recall.
Its ridiculous :(
This was quite a popular tactic about 6 months ago, I did notice someone trying this again in a match the other day.
So I will counter it as I did 6 months ago - Try and run as full a squad as possible and earn as many war points as possible, then drop an orbital on top of them - They hear the orbital coming, but usually don't think its for them, so they usually stay where they are and get wiped out including any uplinks they may have up there. Also a good idea once you've done that to have a couple of forge gunners ready should they try it again. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
1659
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:53:00 -
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deal with it |
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Darken-Soul
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:55:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Why are people able to snipe from on-top of the MCC. They get a cheap dropship - fly up land and recall.
Its ridiculous :(
right? they should have a gantry to snipe from, why jump out and do all that extra work?
I am the real Darken
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XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
379
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:02:00 -
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You can get up there... you can recall your DS... you can snipe from there... you can be shot up there..
you cannot drop uplinks... you cannot drop nanos... unless there is a glitch I am unaware of
Also... if you do this... the same if you bring a thale into a pub match... I will get out my DS with scanner hardeners and booster on it.... I will hunt you down.. and kill you... no matter how many DS I lose... or how many suits I lose... you cannot run far enough into the redline to escape.
don't believe me.... try me next time you are in a game with me on the other side.
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
136
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:06:00 -
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It should destroy your DS trying to land on the MCC. Or increase your chance to take splash damage.
There is no skill involved. I like to think good snipers don't have to snipe from redline. They are much more tactful. Maybe I am wrong.
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Sgt Buttscratch
1359
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:12:00 -
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Sniping on the MCC doesn't make you a bad sniper, if done right you claim an excellent vantage point in which you can watch the enemy, call on incomming movements from infantry, tanks. you can get kills in and support your teams, and in actuallity it's easy to counter.
I like the idea of MCC sniping.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
136
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:16:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Sniping on the MCC doesn't make you a bad sniper, if done right you claim an excellent vantage point in which you can watch the enemy, call on incomming movements from infantry, tanks. you can get kills in and support your teams, and in actuallity it's easy to counter.
I like the idea of MCC sniping.
ha ha ya, one sniper on his MCC and the other on his. They can't reach each other to counter but take easy kills on infantry that can't counter them. This leaves the "good" snipers (rare) to cross the map far enough to get in range of the MCC sniper without being spotted and taking them out.
What do you think requires more skill?
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
2053
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:20:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:So you want the game to be a boring single dimensional snooze fest right? I like the fact that people can fly dropships upto random places and snipe, keeps you on your toes.. You can't drop hives up there(I know how to ), so they are limited to one clip before making the journey to ground then flying back up, and remember there are rail tanks everywhere these days.
In order for me to think sniping from the top of the MCC is cool would mean you'd also have to remove the redline. it's not that it makes it a one dimensional game, it's just that it's another glitch/exploit people need or they'd suck. This game hinges on too many expoits vs actual gameplay.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
138
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:22:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:So you want the game to be a boring single dimensional snooze fest right? I like the fact that people can fly dropships upto random places and snipe, keeps you on your toes.. You can't drop hives up there(I know how to ), so they are limited to one clip before making the journey to ground then flying back up, and remember there are rail tanks everywhere these days. In order for me to think sniping from the top of the MCC is cool would mean you'd also have to remove the redline. it's not that it makes it a one dimensional game, it's just that it's another glitch/exploit people need or they'd suck. This game hinges on too many expoits vs actual gameplay.
wicked point! one dimensional game play speaks volumes of truth! |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1636
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:23:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Why are people able to snipe from on-top of the MCC. They get a cheap dropship - fly up land and recall.
Its ridiculous :( I would say - why not just snipe them off of that MCC but many many times I have tried to counter snipe - I either get 0 hit markers even though I am most definitely shooting the enemy, or I get that blue flash a 0 damage. The other day I put 2 sets of 3 rounds (6 total rounds at over 220 dmg each shot with an advanced tactical sniper) into a Thale's sniper on the other team and it registered not 1 single bit of damage. I moved closer and still I was unable to damage them. Is it elevation? Is it range? I have no idea as when I get this bug / issue I always try and move vantage point to see if it helps but usually it makes no difference. Am I missing something?
Dropship surfing forgegun.
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Dheez
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
Public Disorder.
44
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:51:00 -
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Depends on the MAP, where some MCC are way up high Snipers will often end up with rendering problems. Also, if you're the one getting shot at, request for OB and drop it on him, To get your point across and he's got nowhere to run or hide. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
1659
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Posted - 2014.01.21 20:04:00 -
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